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Post by magengar on Nov 20, 2010 14:12:44 GMT -5
YEEEEEEES!!! Just in time, ...well a bit too early, for pre-Tax Refund season! zozo-Magengar ^^^ Nice Pic =) December there are 3 SRC releases - SRC Raideen - SRC God Raideen - SRC Tamashii Web Exclusive Mazinkaiser SKL
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Post by rodimus1138 on Nov 20, 2010 14:42:06 GMT -5
Paint application is superb but probably about 5% is chipped and uneven, especially on the smallest part like the face. But hey! Coming from Revoltech, SRC paint application is perfection... My Alt has some chipped paint on one of the white stripes on the back of his shoulder and its pretty big too. When I have the chance I'm going to get at it with a gundam marker but I haven't yet due to a combination of laziness and I need to buy a new white gundam marker
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Post by magengar on Nov 20, 2010 15:36:56 GMT -5
I've seen some Gundam markers on ebay. I've never used them before, so I ask: Do they come in various Point sizes? Ya know, like Fine point, Ultrafine point, and so forth? I plan on using them for touchups and panel-lines. Thanks in advance. zozo-Magengar Paint application is superb but probably about 5% is chipped and uneven, especially on the smallest part like the face. But hey! Coming from Revoltech, SRC paint application is perfection... My Alt has some chipped paint on one of the white stripes on the back of his shoulder and its pretty big too. When I have the chance I'm going to get at it with a gundam marker but I haven't yet due to a combination of laziness and I need to buy a new white gundam marker
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Post by guve25 on Nov 20, 2010 20:40:08 GMT -5
I've seen some Gundam markers on ebay. I've never used them before, so I ask: Do they come in various Point sizes? Ya know, like Fine point, Ultrafine point, and so forth? I plan on using them for touchups and panel-lines. Thanks in advance. zozo-Magengar My Alt has some chipped paint on one of the white stripes on the back of his shoulder and its pretty big too. When I have the chance I'm going to get at it with a gundam marker but I haven't yet due to a combination of laziness and I need to buy a new white gundam marker Magengar, Gundam markers have a few tip sizes, but the smallest is only 0.1 mm, for small figures like SRC you need 0.05 mm. For that, you can use off the counter markers like Snowman (if it's available in your country), but make sure it applies to paint as some brands have different ink composition that suits different surfaces. One sure way to do panel line with intermediary skill is to use a bottle of black whiteboard marker ink refill and use a toothpick to line. Shred the toothpick to desired tip size and use it like a feather pen. Got this trick from ngeekhiongex.blogspot.com. I wanted to panel line my Alty, but my kit building supply is in my old apartment in another district so I'm not rushing to do any modification.
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Post by magengar on Nov 20, 2010 22:58:30 GMT -5
Brother, YOU have shone the Light on me! I feel like a Born-Again RJer! ;D Thanks for the DIY tips on how to make Gundam markers with toothpics.... and thanks for the info on the real G markers. I'll scout for them in my region. zizi-Magengar I've seen some Gundam markers on ebay. I've never used them before, so I ask: Do they come in various Point sizes? Ya know, like Fine point, Ultrafine point, and so forth? I plan on using them for touchups and panel-lines. Thanks in advance. zozo-Magengar Magengar, Gundam markers have a few tip sizes, but the smallest is only 0.1 mm, for small figures like SRC you need 0.05 mm. For that, you can use off the counter markers like Snowman (if it's available in your country), but make sure it applies to paint as some brands have different ink composition that suits different surfaces. One sure way to do panel line with intermediary skill is to use a bottle of black whiteboard marker ink refill and use a toothpick to line. Shred the toothpick to desired tip size and use it like a feather pen. Got this trick from ngeekhiongex.blogspot.com. I wanted to panel line my Alty, but my kit building supply is in my old apartment in another district so I'm not rushing to do any modification.
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Post by guve25 on Nov 21, 2010 10:20:56 GMT -5
Brother, YOU have shone the Light on me! I feel like a Born-Again RJer! ;D Thanks for the DIY tips on how to make Gundam markers with toothpics.... and thanks for the info on the real G markers. I'll scout for them in my region. zizi-Magengar It's a common trick, but just to be sure, there's another much more simpler trick than having to "make" your own fine tip marker. Buy a 000 size fine brush like this... The 000 size is the thinnest one on top. You simply dab it on the marker ink refill and apply ;D In my country, I can find fine tip brushes on books shop on the stationery side, so it's easy to have. I've experimented using fine tip brushes, toothpicks, off the counter marker and Gundam marker, the best is still the off the counter marker 0.05 tip. It's cheap and I can find it easy on bookstores. The fine tip brushes and to certain extent the MacGyver'd toothpick needs skill, and the Gundam marker is rare, especially the 0.05 tip. So off the counter we go... But I haven't tried one yet, and SRC paints seems to be too glossy for the ink marker to set, but let's see. As of now my SRC Alteisen is good enough as it is.
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Post by magengar on Nov 21, 2010 12:07:15 GMT -5
Bro, THESE would be Poifect for panel-lines! My hands are really shakey when it comes to working with tiny details, especially when I'm painting small detail on an object. With these brushes I can paint INSIDE the grooves instead of having the ink bleed out over the surface. Thaaanks! ;D zozo-Magengar Brother, YOU have shone the Light on me! I feel like a Born-Again RJer! ;D Thanks for the DIY tips on how to make Gundam markers with toothpics.... and thanks for the info on the real G markers. I'll scout for them in my region. zizi-Magengar It's a common trick, but just to be sure, there's another much more simpler trick than having to "make" your own fine tip marker. Buy a 000 size fine brush like this... The 000 size is the thinnest one on top. You simply dab it on the marker ink refill and apply ;D In my country, I can find fine tip brushes on books shop on the stationery side, so it's easy to have. I've experimented using fine tip brushes, toothpicks, off the counter marker and Gundam marker, the best is still the off the counter marker 0.05 tip. It's cheap and I can find it easy on bookstores. The fine tip brushes and to certain extent the MacGyver'd toothpick needs skill, and the Gundam marker is rare, especially the 0.05 tip. So off the counter we go... But I haven't tried one yet, and SRC paints seems to be too glossy for the ink marker to set, but let's see. As of now my SRC Alteisen is good enough as it is.
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Post by DUKE 77 on Nov 24, 2010 16:18:40 GMT -5
To who own Soul of Chogokin GX-01 & GX-02 and Super Robot Chogokin Double Mazingers, Please I would like to know, in a comparison between GX-01 / GX-02 and the SRC Double Mazins, which is more durable? We saw that GX-01 / 02 are prone to crack with the upper legs, the upper arms may oxidize 'n rust and some parts may break robotjapan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=SOC&action=display&thread=17176&page=9 but we also know that the SRC line is kinda of fragile! So, I just need to know which is made of better durable plastic and quality? Note: I am talking about GX-01 & GX-02 not the R versions. Thanks!
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Post by quinjester on Nov 24, 2010 16:58:05 GMT -5
we also know that the SRC line is kinda of fragile! Wah? We do? As for long-term durability things like tarnishing and paint flaking, I don't know that the SRC's have been around long enough to test for stuff like that.
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Post by supergetterv on Nov 24, 2010 17:24:48 GMT -5
The figures in the SRC line is not fragile at all. As for the Alteisen, it is pretty hefty too. The paint chip problem is present even in the SOC line. It is mostly QC problems. Most of the people that have reported to have paint chipped off or flaked off got them straight out of the box. It isn't like they touched it and the paint just rubs off or break off the metal. There are a couple of parts on the alteisen figure that tend to rub against one another, so you might want to pay attention to those areas, cause paint can scratch and chipped off parts that rub up against each other.
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Post by guve25 on Nov 24, 2010 21:00:40 GMT -5
The figures in the SRC line is not fragile at all. As for the Alteisen, it is pretty hefty too. The paint chip problem is present even in the SOC line. It is mostly QC problems. Most of the people that have reported to have paint chipped off or flaked off got them straight out of the box. It isn't like they touched it and the paint just rubs off or break off the metal. There are a couple of parts on the alteisen figure that tend to rub against one another, so you might want to pay attention to those areas, cause paint can scratch and chipped off parts that rub up against each other. Agreed. No figures/toys can ever be made 100% if it's still hand built/painted, unless we built it ourself like a model kit... Even then the occasional "not experienced" enough will create something sloppier compared to buying a finished figure/toy. So far I have no complaint unless stating the obvious about SRC Alteisen paint application. The Mazinger Z is 99,9% perfect, the Great Mazinger is about 97% (got some scratches), the Alteisen is about 96% (face paint application is a little runny). Nothing to worry about initial paint quality... But my Great Mazinger abdomen section paint is chipped from constant rubbing with the front triangular hip part. I didn't notice any part that might rubbed with each other on Alteisen, but the close proximity of each parts might cause paint scratches in the future.
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Post by magengar on Nov 24, 2010 22:35:24 GMT -5
The same die-cast material in the SRC line is the same as that of the SOC line. The difference is that with the SRC line, some parts are extremely close to one another, and that also could lend to the chipping and scratching of paint in those areas.
Can it be helped? I honestly can not answer that question. A sacrifice has to be made for a Perfect toy: alter the shape of a part unlike its original source in order to prevent it from chipping paint off another part--- thus risking some functionality in the product...........
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Design the product as true to its source and risk functionality for perfect cosmetic appearance.
I think Bandai would prefer to do the First act.
My definition of this circumstance is rather Loosely interpreted. And for the SRC line to be a success, I doubt Bandai would slack off by producing die-cast fragile figures, because then the product will flop and Bandai could lose lotsa business.
zozo-Magengar
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Post by supergetterv on Nov 24, 2010 23:57:55 GMT -5
With the Alteisen, watch out for the bottom ankle area. It's sharp and practically rubbing against both feet. Both the inner and outer part of the ankle, so all I have to say is when you move the feet, pay attention. Paint bleeds on mines is very minimal, I could spot some flaws on mines but I really have to inspect it all around to find them. That's not my hobby. My hobby is to acquire it, put it a pose I like and stick it with the rest of the crew in my display cabinets. To me, as long as the flaw isn't that noticeable, it okay. The only way I am not okay with any flaw is if they are present on the face and head. The head is an important part or any figure, as most people look at the head at first glance, so if any figure I buy has a mess up head, I'll return it. Then if the flaw is big on the front side of the figure, then that can be a problem, but if the flaw is on the back of the figure, where I don't usually look at or pose to have it seen, then I really don't care all that much. So if I have a figure that I pulled out of the box and there are scratches or paint chips on the back side, I am not all that bummed out about it.
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Post by DUKE 77 on Nov 25, 2010 0:48:32 GMT -5
we also know that the SRC line is kinda of fragile! Wah? We do? As for long-term durability things like tarnishing and paint flaking, I don't know that the SRC's have been around long enough to test for stuff like that. The figures in the SRC line is not fragile at all. As for the Alteisen, it is pretty hefty too. The paint chip problem is present even in the SOC line. It is mostly QC problems. Most of the people that have reported to have paint chipped off or flaked off got them straight out of the box. It isn't like they touched it and the paint just rubs off or break off the metal. There are a couple of parts on the alteisen figure that tend to rub against one another, so you might want to pay attention to those areas, cause paint can scratch and chipped off parts that rub up against each other. Personally, I am not so sure...that's why I said kinda of fragile, but this is cuz the latest couple o' reviews I saw on YouTube, where the reviewer dudes usually say, "be careful not to let 'em fall cuz they are kinda of fragile." I guess they did not mean all of the figure's fragile, maybe some parts. OK, bros, so back to my question...in a durability & quality comparison (specially for the plastic parts), SOC GX-01/02 or the SRC Double Mazingers win?
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Nov 25, 2010 1:03:59 GMT -5
we also know that the SRC line is kinda of fragile! Wah? We do? As for long-term durability things like tarnishing and paint flaking, I don't know that the SRC's have been around long enough to test for stuff like that. I completely agree. The SRCs are not fragile at all. I took appart everything that could be taken appart without special tools in both, Mazinger Z & Great Mazinger SRC figures. I can tell you that they are very sturdy and well put together! While it us true that some, not all, SOCs have metal joints in the shoulders and ankles, the SRCs' are very good too. }D
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Post by DUKE 77 on Nov 25, 2010 4:59:41 GMT -5
Wah? We do? As for long-term durability things like tarnishing and paint flaking, I don't know that the SRC's have been around long enough to test for stuff like that. I completely agree. The SRCs are not fragile at all. I took appart everything that could be taken appart without special tools in both, Mazinger Z & Great Mazinger SRC figures. I can tell you that they are very sturdy and well put together! While it us true that some, not all, SOCs have metal joints in the shoulders and ankles, the SRCs' are very good too. }D So, do I understand that the SRC Double Mazingers material (referring to the plastic only) and manufacturing quality are better than the old GX-01 & 02 or they are same?
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Post by rodimus1138 on Nov 25, 2010 17:13:20 GMT -5
Both my Mazingers are perfect with the exception of the hover pilder it has some roughness from the molding process and the scrander belt clip paint had some paint bubbles but so far no chipping/scratching and my alt was chipped out of box
I have nothing bad to say about the src line
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Nov 25, 2010 20:34:28 GMT -5
I completely agree. The SRCs are not fragile at all. I took appart everything that could be taken appart without special tools in both, Mazinger Z & Great Mazinger SRC figures. I can tell you that they are very sturdy and well put together! While it us true that some, not all, SOCs have metal joints in the shoulders and ankles, the SRCs' are very good too. }D So, do I understand that the SRC Double Mazingers material (referring to the plastic only) and manufacturing quality are better than the old GX-01 & 02 or they are same? Man, I don't know what an SRC Double Mazinger is. As far as the SOC GX-01 and GX-02, I've had absolutely no problems with them. I keep reading complaints about cracked legs, but to be honest, I've only became aware of them after reading it on this site. The other sites I frequent have no mention of defects like that. I don't know what to say... maybe there was a bad batch of GX-01/GX-02 made one year? The SRC Mazinger Z Nd SRC Great Mazinger are very good quality figures too. }D
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Post by Dead-Man on Nov 25, 2010 20:48:50 GMT -5
Double Mazingerz means Mazinger Z & Great Mazinger i think
but just sliding my opinion
for personal taste i would go for the SRC's than the GX-01 & GX-02 Because Bandai came a long way since then, and the SRC's have way better articulation than those SOC's and what would beat those SRC's are a Newer SOC's of Mazinger Z (Classic) and Great Mazinger with SOC's new articulation.
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Post by magengar on Nov 25, 2010 22:49:16 GMT -5
The SRCs, and any die-cast toy, is fragile if you're roughly handling them... ...in Puerto Rico, you folks over there have marble floors and linoleum tiles in your homes..... PRAY your gokins and precious die-casts do NOT dive off the shelf!
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As for Dammage 7's Mazinger reference:
By "double Mazingers" he's taking a shortcut ... instead of typing out each of their names, he's refering to BOTH mazingers in one sentence or commentary. It's easier on the fingers.
It can be exhausting typing each of the Mazinger's full names over and over and over again... it's been reported that user's fingers have suffered severe bruising and dammaged keyboards from all that name typing of the Mazingers... in rare cases, it's induced trauma and ultimately spontaneous head explosions.
Four out of five neurosurgeons agree. ;D
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