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Re: Yamato's 1/3000 Macross SDF-1 December Release « Reply #45 on Jan 7, 2011, 5:44pm »
I'm still on the fence about this one, the Macross is such a huge part of my childhood but it was the tv version and not the DYRL one which I saw years later. I just wish they had a tv color version in white and blue I would buy that in a heartbeat. Oh well, Ben-Ohki be sure to post some pics I would love to see it next to some big SOC's and stuff just to get a gauge of it's size.
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Re: Yamato's 1/3000 Macross SDF-1 December Release « Reply #46 on Jan 7, 2011, 8:18pm »
I want this but got scared away from pre-ordering because of the high cost. Gonna have to wait till 2nd run or if the TV version comes out. If the TV version does come out, it'll be a hard choice for me. I like the color scheme of the TV version but also like the insane detail on the DYRL version.
I'm still on the fence about this one, the Macross is such a huge part of my childhood but it was the tv version and not the DYRL one which I saw years later. I just wish they had a tv color version in white and blue I would buy that in a heartbeat. Oh well, Ben-Ohki be sure to post some pics I would love to see it next to some big SOC's and stuff just to get a gauge of it's size.
Ask and you shall receive. Here's a pic of it next to the 1/750 scale Macross Quarter from 2008. It's accurate as far as scale is concerned since it's four times the scale size and the toy is almost the same length.
Here's a shot in Storm Attacker Mode next to a variety of other Macross mecha scales: 1/750 Macross Quarter, 1/100 Battle-pod, 1/60 Destroid, 1/48 Valkyrie.
And one more with a variety of other non-scale figures (including a Revoltech).
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Re: Yamato's 1/3000 Macross SDF-1 December Release « Reply #48 on Jan 8, 2011, 10:19am »
Nice! You know if it weren't for the canons it looks like the Quarter is roughly the same size and MP Prime is actually taller if you compare head height to bridge height. Still a very impressive figure and I would probably keep it in ship mode if I buy one.
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Re: Yamato's 1/3000 Macross SDF-1 December Release « Reply #49 on Jan 8, 2011, 11:01am »
Yes, overall, MP Prime is beefier, not just taller. On the other hand Quarter, while definitely heftier, is also not as "sturdy-feeling" because of its floppiness and removable bits. For instance, while not obvious in the photos, recently the Quarter's main gun fell out of its grasp while I was transforming him (it hit my floor and bent the tip a bit; I think I can bend everything back but the stress marks will need some paint to cover up). SDF1 on the other hand looks delicate (the bridge section is just frightening to me) but is also one of the sturdiest figures I have since its limbs never feel too heavy for its joints.
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Re: Yamato's 1/3000 Macross SDF-1 December Release « Reply #51 on Jan 8, 2011, 1:52pm »
thanks for sharing...great comparison shots against other scales & non scales toys.....3x DX Macross Quarters???Holy Mother of Macross.....sooooo expen$ive......
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Re: Yamato's 1/3000 Macross SDF-1 December Release « Reply #52 on Jan 8, 2011, 2:06pm »
To be honest, I don't know the details behind the cost of designing and then producing such a toy, but considering the engineering and size of the final product, I honestly believe it's just slightly over-priced. Takara was able to produce and release MP-01 Convoy for a fraction of SDF-1's retail so from that perspective, it should cost about the same (just under $200 original MSRP). But as I said, there are other factors involved (like Takara banking on being able to sell the mold for Hasbro releases later on). There are things going on behind the scenes we don't necessarily know about.
Anyway, let's not freak out - firstly the MSRP of DX Quarter was about $200 and I definitely did not pay 3x that. SDF1 has an MSRP of about $300... after taxes importing it, I paid almost double the Quarter... Relative to the DX Quarter, am I happy? As a matter of fact, yes, I am. Were both overpriced? The answer to that is also, a big yes. But alas, this the nature of the hobby.
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Re: Yamato's 1/3000 Macross SDF-1 December Release « Reply #53 on Jan 8, 2011, 2:47pm »
I think a lot has to do with the yen exchange rate we have nowadays. The 1/3000 Macross can be had around 27000yen with a good discount (though most place with that price is out of stock). When the rate is good, that is merely US$230-240. And some of the more premium Yamato valks had reached 18000-19000yen range. Consider SDF-1 being bigger and beefier with a lot of sculpted details on the surface, its not really out of the line. And Bandai & Takara always able to produce stuff at lower cost... just look at the SRC for $30-40 a pop. So can't really compare Yamato to them.
Unfortunately, the current exchange rate really makes a difference on the total of how much more we are paying than before. And I am not saying the 1/3000 SDF-1 is cheap either, don't get me wrong.
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Re: Yamato's 1/3000 Macross SDF-1 December Release « Reply #54 on Jan 8, 2011, 4:54pm »
Yeah I just used the analogy of three times the DX Quarters price because HLJ has it on sale for 9900YEN or roughly $120U.S. But your right with discounts and stuff you think your getting a good deal but then the exchange rates turns around and bites you in the butt, like mpchi said there are places that has it for around 27000YEN but in Canadian dollars that's $320Cdn + s/h. The only good thing now (for us Canadians) is that it looks like the Canadian dollar is worth more than the U.S but still the exchange rate with the Yen is dismal and you have the chance of getting hit by Customs so you get a double whammy. Still I doubt Yamato won't milk the mold somehow, with a second production run coming and I can easily see a Weathering version they more than offset a lot of the cost of the molds considering that a lot of the hard detail work was already done for the 1/2000 Macross model. But that's just how it is in this hobby, it's like iGears mini Prime they charge you $110 for it but in reality it's really only worth $30-40.
I'm still on the fence about this one, the Macross is such a huge part of my childhood but it was the tv version and not the DYRL one which I saw years later. I just wish they had a tv color version in white and blue I would buy that in a heartbeat. Oh well, Ben-Ohki be sure to post some pics I would love to see it next to some big SOC's and stuff just to get a gauge of it's size.
Ask and you shall receive. Here's a pic of it next to the 1/750 scale Macross Quarter from 2008. It's accurate as far as scale is concerned since it's four times the scale size and the toy is almost the same length.
Here's a shot in Storm Attacker Mode next to a variety of other Macross mecha scales: 1/750 Macross Quarter, 1/100 Battle-pod, 1/60 Destroid, 1/48 Valkyrie.
And one more with a variety of other non-scale figures (including a Revoltech).
That is so incredibly nice! Thanks for the comparison pics!
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Re: Yamato's 1/3000 Macross SDF-1 December Release « Reply #56 on Jan 11, 2011, 1:58pm »
Yamatoed! (again...)
Mine came with a defect . Fortunately, its not a huge deal. The knees of mine has inconsistent ratchets, with one knee clicks only when bending the leg backwards, while the other knee only clicks when straigtening the knee from the bent position, but not vice versa. Its as if one knee had the ratchet installed in reverse. Also, even when they click, they don't lock or hold the leg position as they do like the arms/elbows do. So they are a pair of ratchet knees that has inconsistent 'click', and work more like just a friction joint instead (with additional sounds). But good that the friction there is good, and the knees are still pretty snug, regardless the faulty ratchets in them. Phew~!
Aside from the funny knees on mine, I really like this Macross. If the arms don't get stressed and crack later on, then this SDF-1 is indeed one of the most sturdily built Yamato so far. And I love the diecast frame holding the legs and torso together, adding weight and durability to the whole thing. Those hidden magnets in ARMD 1 & 2, and the gun boom tips are fantastic.
One question I have for you guys that have it. In Attack Mode, is the torso suppose to be a bit wobbly, even after its locked in place? Mine doesn't feel snug, even after I rotated it all the way and locked the tab in the back. The torso holds position just fine, but wobbles a bit. But its fine in cruiser mode.
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Re: Yamato's 1/3000 Macross SDF-1 December Release « Reply #59 on Jan 20, 2011, 4:40am »
This DYRL Macross seems to be an ultimate release for Yamato - both the MW and ColDX review gave very high praises to the product, and has indeed convinced me that I need one in my collection! Unfortunately it's out of stock at places that gives significant discounts, which is really unusual for first issue run of a Yamato release, especially one at this price range.
Although I prefer the patriotic color (and arms configuration) of the TV version, I think I'll try to obtain it online stores like HLJ or AmiAmi managed to restock. Hopefully, like the majority of Yamato releases, it will get a reissue in the not so far future. I think this would've made TOTY of 2010, had RJ conducted a polling.
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