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Re: FRAME ARMS « Reply #60 on Dec 21, 2009, 3:52pm »
Hmm do you think you could add some addtional parts to maintain the waist/shoulder mobility while still keeping it asthetically appealing? Also, how bad is the loss of motion in those areas?
Hmm do you think you could add some addtional parts to maintain the waist/shoulder mobility while still keeping it asthetically appealing? Also, how bad is the loss of motion in those areas?
It'd be more a case of leaving parts off, and I don't think you could do anything to regain the shoulder articulation as it's because the (originally) 180 degree front-to-back movement is blocked by teh chest and back (cut down to maybe 35-40 degrees instead, still quite good but not ridiculous like the base frame). The waist, if you leave off the waist pieces, should regain 95%-100% of its torso movement, though. I'll experiment and show comparison photos when I shoot it.
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Re: FRAME ARMS « Reply #63 on Dec 21, 2009, 10:45pm »
Size up! The new feet give the Gou-Rai armor a bit of a "leg up" on the base Frame Architect. Note: He stands really stably normally on a hard surface, but not so much on my drop cloth, which is why I've got him with his treads down. Normally he wouldn't need them.
Comparing elbow articulation: Not a huge difference, but it's there. The wrists also lose most of their lateral movement, dropping from 180 degrees to about 10.
Shoulders - up and out: Obviously the presence of shoulder pauldrons cuts down on the massive range of movement on the Frame Architect unit.
Shoulders - front to back: Likewise, the chest and back armor cuts the phenomenal Frame Architect shoulder mobility down to a shadow of what it once was. It's still good for being expressive, but Gou-Rai wont be doing calisthenics any time soon.
Waist movement: Gou-Rai can lean back a bit, but not nearly as much as the base frame. He can't really bend forward at all, due to the chest and waist armor.
Kneeling: While the Gou-Rai armor can still pull a convincing kneel, it doesn't have the same gymnast-flexibility as the Frame Architect does. Still, not at all shabby.
In fact, the legs really still have a fantastic range of flexibility. I love the way his shinguards move to both allow a large amount of forward foot movement as well as support him in very deep squatting poses. You would be very hard pressed to find an armored figure that can crouch like this guy can.
... in fact, thanks to the design of the armor with its front and rear supports on the legs, he can hold more dynamic leg poses than the Frame Architect can without support. The Frame Architect is supporting himself on the Gou-Rai armor; without support he'd be falling over in that matching pose.
Likewise, the rear treads mean the Gou-Rai can pose in backwards angled poses, even supporting the Frame Architect while doing so.
And .. uh... what is this, I don't even
... so, yeah. Pretty neat. The added weight of the armor DOES make the joints move a lot looser, which is a bit of a concern considering that I know painting will add a lot of extra ballast and I can forsee it getting loose pretty easily. Overall though, the Gou-Rai armor manages to be a very cool model with a neat design, a lot of mobility (even if it's compromising 50% of the base Architect's movement, it's got a vast pool of motion still to draw from), and a lot of character despite its rather "generic" design.
If this were a metal frame like the SOC Spec Dragonar, this would honestly be one of my favorite toys ever. As it is, it's still a really cool model and I look forward to decorating it.
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Re: FRAME ARMS « Reply #64 on Dec 22, 2009, 12:23am »
Thriller?? is it too soon for that ?? lol anyway, thanks for the great pics and review. So its still pretty dynamic compared to most actionfigures available today, so thats good. Id say I cant wait to do mine but I dont know when ill ever get to it. I do wish that the main frame was designed to be an action figure instead of a model kit high bred, since it seems that these figures may not be able to take a lot of mix and matching for long.
So I finally put one of mine together. I will have to go back and glue stuff later. It seems the frame itself comes apart pretty easy if you pose it. The armor bits make it hold up a little better. When I go back and paint it, I will likely glue parts of it. I like how the head and feet are left over from the frame. I might be able to use those for other customs.
So I finally put one of mine together. I will have to go back and glue stuff later. It seems the frame itself comes apart pretty easy if you pose it. The armor bits make it hold up a little better.
Yes, one DEFINITELY wants to glue the frame pieces together if you're going to put the armor on or fiddle with these guys with any amount of vigor. It makes a whole world of difference.
Has anyone tried to fit any armored core weapons on these? I have a bunch but they are in boxes. The peg holes all over this armor look like they might fit the AC special weapon add ons which could also make some cool kit. It would be awesome if they sold armor parts as well w/o the frame so you could build your own combination.
So I managed to find one of my armored core weapons. The scale is good, butthe peg is slightly larger on the armored core weapon. This can be easily fixed with maybe a little sanding. But it is good to know that we might use some of the AC surplus of parts to add to these further.
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