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Post by chogokinabdul on Dec 2, 2009 17:34:48 GMT -5
I know it is a weired question but I am so tight on budget and waaaay behind on my collecting habit and I can't really make up my mind!! what to get of these three choices? 1- yamato Dangaurd Ace (hongkong plated version) I don't dig the design of the robot but I read reviews about it and I like leiji matsomoto. 2- yamato 1/24 patlabour Ingram 1 ( that thing is a killer!!) 3- GX-46 Dygenguar & Aussenseiter I can't make minde .... what is your advice guys? thanks
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Post by krimpov on Dec 2, 2009 17:44:40 GMT -5
A wonderfully engineered toy is great, but if you don't like the design is it really worth it?
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Post by Chen on Dec 2, 2009 17:45:03 GMT -5
Depends on your tastes, personally I'm old school and the Yamato Danguard exceeded my expectations so I would get that first. Of course GX-46 is an impressive piece too when in full badass mode and the Patlabor is a massive piece too, but I don't own one. But it would be Danguard for me since there is so little Danguard merchandise out there.
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Post by quinjester on Dec 2, 2009 17:49:56 GMT -5
Those are three vastly different figures you've got listed there... personally my tastes don't go in the direction of Danguard as I think it's a bit simple looking and I've never been very impressed with Yamato's larger toys. The Ingram is a similar story, though it's unlikely to ever be topped for a large scale Ingram. The GX-46 is damn impressive, but awfully fiddly as well. It would help to know what sort of toys you're into or already have to offer suggestions.
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Post by Dead-Man on Dec 2, 2009 18:16:35 GMT -5
if it was my choice i would go with GX-46 Dygenguar & Aussenseiter
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Post by tragichero on Dec 2, 2009 18:51:37 GMT -5
GX-46 is impressive and has great play value for me.
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Post by locidm on Dec 2, 2009 18:55:52 GMT -5
I have all three. Well, the Danguard I have is the normal version.
I'd have to say the experience of opening all three toys were all wonderful. All three have great shelf presence. Though you will have trouble fitting the Patlabor in with your other gokins, just because it's so big.
The GX-46 looks great, but I find myself hesitant in doing the transformation, so it ends up staying in my cabinet with little play time. The fact that the horse mode is so unstable stops me from ever touching the horse. Daigenguard is kinda fun though.
Danguard is awesome, it's heavy but it's a parts former. It's old fashion and retro.
Patlabor is so cool. I find that because of its size it's a better display piece "out of" the cabinet. It looks great on a coffee table. The lights are awesome, and you can do all kinds of pose with it. The play value of the patlabor is just great. Since it's plastic you don't worry about it scratching as much.
So ultimately I think it depends on which is your favorite character. I personally think that you get quite a bit with the Patlabor, and it will be different than all the rest of your collection. Simply nothing I have is comparable (or compatible) to it.
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Post by twoducks on Dec 2, 2009 18:58:55 GMT -5
I have GX-46 and my Yamato 1/24 Ingram should arrive next week.
For now I can tell you that GX-46 is basically a statue. Yeah, it looks nice, but it also needs to be placed in a special place to show off (it's two damn dark and Bandai’s black support stand ads to the visual clutter even more).
Whateveritsnameis is to be left in parts swapping horse mode (cuz robot mode is very lacking and PT horse looks very bad). The swords robot is nice if you like the oversaturated with spikes design. For me it’s a “look and don’t touch” robot; I just don’t feel like playing with the spiky thing. Same with the complete “mounted on the horse” look; fiddle with it too much and watch it dissolve.
I’ll tell you if the 1/24 Ingram was worth it when I get it. Right now I can't wait to open it.
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Post by baroun85 on Dec 2, 2009 19:14:01 GMT -5
i suggest u to get patlabor but f u dont like its design so go to gx-46
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Post by Gold on Dec 2, 2009 21:18:45 GMT -5
I'd go for Danguard plated, it just had that "wow!" value for me when I first opened up the box, plus I believe it ran in limited numbers unlike the Gx-46. Maybe the Gx-46 would be a close second for me since I don't see Bandai reissuing it soon due to the high cost to make it and it's relatively smaller target audience (SRWOG fans).
Gold
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Dec 2, 2009 22:38:55 GMT -5
If you ask me, getting the Danguard Ace first is a no brainer. However, I couldn't really tell you about the other two because I despise the newer SRW mecha "Mighty Morphin Power Ranger" designs, and the Patlabor mechas are not really in my top-ten favorites list. In either case, since you are paying for it, by all means, pick the one YOU like the most...
}D
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Post by chogokinabdul on Dec 3, 2009 1:32:39 GMT -5
thanks guys for all responses .... that helped alot!!
as for me I am more into the classic looking robots and I am really not feeling for the new treatment that bandai is doing to the SOC line (shin mazinger & Getter dragon= where is the chrome limps!!) but I also go for collecting a Toy value!! I mean the plated danguard Ace looks really good ... and it is limited!
the patlabor ingram have a great engeneering that makes it a big project for yamato and it might die due to the world fainancial crises.
and GX-46 have the same story! I think it survived the chance of being cancelled!! although I feel it is more like a pwer ranger than a super robot ... but in toys history it was released in a time where I realy thought they better cancel it!!
what do u think guys?
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Post by lurkerx on Dec 3, 2009 10:37:34 GMT -5
In my mind I really don't consider Yamato's Patlabor a "chogokin" its more like the 1/12 Scopedogs.
So the choices are really between GX-46 & Dagaurd Ace.
I'd go for GX-46 from a purely aesthetics point, I can't get over Daguard Ace's small head (without is helmet) ; I'm also worrisome that the metallic finish of D.A. may peel/ crack in the long run.
Bang for the buck I'm also inclined to go with GX-46: you're getting 2 beautiful die-cast robots for a reasonable price (now more than ever as I see price cuts to it in most all online stores)
The fact that D.A. is limited doesn't necessarily mean it would appreciate in value faster that the regular release..... Yamato's Grosier X, Bandai's Gundam FIX metal Comp. and most all CM's limited release cost about the same as the regular release on occassion even cheaper.
Still a difficult call.......what made it easy for me is the fact that I picked up the D.A. popy DX several years ago to quench my D.A. gokin thirst and I've closed the door to getting more D.A. figures. D.A. is one of the very rare instances where I'd prefer the vintage over the modern
I think what you should be asking us is which version of D.A. do we prefer so that you are able to guage the interest on the Metallic......then review the GX-46 thread to determine interest see how many of us purchased the the GX-46
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Post by gt3ian on Dec 3, 2009 11:33:54 GMT -5
GX-46.
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Post by baroun85 on Dec 3, 2009 11:48:02 GMT -5
its up to whatever u like go ahead and take it for me i`ll go for patlabor then gx-46 and then danguard ace plated but i like danguard ace too much but this is my suggestion for u guy so am going to bye danguard ace the regular then i`ll get plated not like socs line am taking every mazingers and getters cause i like them too much so think about what u want to pay for it
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Post by chogokinabdul on Dec 3, 2009 13:53:16 GMT -5
again thanks guys for all the openion.. it is really intresting how diferent people could feel toward toys!! it sucks that the market now is filled with awsome toys and there is a shortage in cash!! lurkerX I agree with you about the D.A Tiny head thing .... that actually kept away from getting it this long but I am surprised about the fact that you don't consider the patlabor as a gokin!! why is that?... is it that light?...
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Post by quinjester on Dec 3, 2009 14:32:21 GMT -5
again thanks guys for all the openion.. it is really intresting how diferent people could feel toward toys!! it sucks that the market now is filled with awsome toys and there is a shortage in cash!! lurkerX I agree with you about the D.A Tiny head thing .... that actually kept away from getting it this long but I am surprised about the fact that you don't consider the patlabor as a gokin!! why is that?... is it that light?... The Yamato Ingram does not have any exterior diecast, only having some pieces on its internal framework. To that extent it's more of a large plastic figure that's got some metal bits than a Gokin.
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Post by lurkerx on Dec 3, 2009 15:02:14 GMT -5
again thanks guys for all the openion.. it is really intresting how diferent people could feel toward toys!! it sucks that the market now is filled with awsome toys and there is a shortage in cash!! lurkerX I agree with you about the D.A Tiny head thing .... that actually kept away from getting it this long but I am surprised about the fact that you don't consider the patlabor as a gokin!! why is that?... is it that light?... quinjester: You read my mind ;D chogokinabdul: I try to draw the line and define gokin or chogokin as a Jp robot figure with a mixture of diecast metal parts and plastic. To me the more metal, the more I can justify calling it gokin or chogokin. Though I haven’t held Yamato’s 1/24 Patlabor figure, I believe it to be in the ball park area of their 1/12 Scopedog, 1/48 VF-1s. There’s nothing wrong about that (I’ve got 2 scopedogs at this time), they’re all excellent, well detailed, beautiful, well sculpted figures, but primarily plastic. For the scopedog, the metal was limited to its ground anchoring pins. So having said that, I’m more inclined to define the 1/24 patlabor as a modern “DX” toy somewhere in the lines of Bandai’s “DX” releases such as 12” MSIA gundams, vintage 1/32 Patlabor etc. If you wanted a chogokin Patlabor then I suggest you have a look at CM’s Brave Ingram release. It’s quite an exquisite little gokin, with a good amount of metal, cloth accents, mini figure, opening cockpit, great sculpting and a hanger display stand to boot….simple perfect. Of course one may argue that most all SOCs aren’t abundant in metal but…….at least generally the typical release has proportionally more diecast. I don’t know man, there’s just too much good stuff that’s coming down the pipes at once that I need to come up with these personal collecting mandate “rules” so that I’m able to limit my purchases and gain some sort of “focus” in my collection………..otherwise I’d just go buck wild and buy everything. Lol
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Post by chogokinabdul on Dec 3, 2009 15:34:46 GMT -5
………..otherwise I’d just go buck wild and buy everything.lurkerX said LOL.... I like that!!! it is the same issue over here!! I always try to find a collecting system that can hold me from going crazy and buying every thing and get divorced and poor !! thanks for clearing the Yamato patlabor issue!! for what ever reason I thought the entire inner skeleton was made of metal!! and due to the fact that it is priced some where arround 300$ (if you r lucky u might find it for 240$ like my case ) but that gave me the empresion that it is more than a DX toy!! along with a review I read at Collection DX... man ... reviews are helpfull
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Post by locidm on Dec 3, 2009 15:45:33 GMT -5
Yes the Patlabor is mostly plastic. However, I'd say that there is more diecast than what LurkerX has depicted. For starter, the feet are diecast. It's hard to tell what material they use for the internal frame but I would guess quite a bit of metal as well. The figure is quite heavy considering it's all plastic outside other than the feet.
I'm not sure I'll consider it a gokin, but it's definitely one of the best pieces I have among my collection.
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