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Post by TheMazingerZ on Mar 27, 2015 10:53:13 GMT -5
Oh, and to beat a dead horse, Mazinkaiser (Koji version) in the anime was listed as 22 meters tall. Grendizer is supposed to be 30 meters tall. Have no idea how tall Mazinkaizer SKL is. }D
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Post by DUKE 77 on Apr 8, 2015 23:09:18 GMT -5
Oh, and to beat a dead horse, Mazinkaiser (Koji version) in the anime was listed as 22 meters tall. Grendizer is supposed to be 30 meters tall. Have no idea how tall Mazinkaizer SKL is. }D OVA Mazinkaiser is 23m, bro. Askin' me, I would give SKL the same height as Kaiser or 30m as Grendizer.
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Post by gapudo on Apr 9, 2015 1:53:52 GMT -5
It is supposed to be the tallest of all four Mazinger related robots, but it is totally dwarfed by the two SRC Mazinkaisers. At least, they should've have made it the same size as those two, if not taller. you keep repeating the same bullsh*t over and over. In the movie you can see Grendizer is just a bit taller than Great Mazinger. And the cockpit size tells us the height is correct. He is shorter than Mazinkaiser, that's why they made them like that. You either are an idiot or have some kind of OCD
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Post by Chen on Apr 9, 2015 6:34:29 GMT -5
Watch the language and personal attacks.
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Post by DUKE 77 on Apr 9, 2015 9:05:24 GMT -5
It is supposed to be the tallest of all four Mazinger related robots, but it is totally dwarfed by the two SRC Mazinkaisers. At least, they should've have made it the same size as those two, if not taller. you keep repeating the same bullsh*t over and over. In the movie you can see Grendizer is just a bit taller than Great Mazinger. And the cockpit size tells us the height is correct. He is shorter than Mazinkaiser, that's why they made them like that. You either are an idiot or have some kind of OCD Little gapudo, you are the ONLY retarded idiot here! Talk to TheMazingerZ in respect or get your rusty @$$ outta of this forum before you get it kicked by all of us. You got it?
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Post by B- on Apr 9, 2015 9:18:09 GMT -5
It is supposed to be the tallest of all four Mazinger related robots, but it is totally dwarfed by the two SRC Mazinkaisers. At least, they should've have made it the same size as those two, if not taller. you keep repeating the same bullsh*t over and over. In the movie you can see Grendizer is just a bit taller than Great Mazinger. And the cockpit size tells us the height is correct. He is shorter than Mazinkaiser, that's why they made them like that. You either are an idiot or have some kind of OCD Dont talk to my friend like that ,apparently you have no clue about his knowledge of the Mazinger Canon,and or how to speak to others on a forum,you have 30 posts so you havent been here long enough to even be considered.Only someone who has serious issues would call someone an idiot or OCD over a cartoon robot,and get that upset,are you an adult?if so no excuse,If you are a minor you have alot to learn.If you want to be accepted here earn it.If not peace out.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 9, 2015 9:56:50 GMT -5
It is supposed to be the tallest of all four Mazinger related robots, but it is totally dwarfed by the two SRC Mazinkaisers. At least, they should've have made it the same size as those two, if not taller. you keep repeating the same bullsh*t over and over. In the movie you can see Grendizer is just a bit taller than Great Mazinger. And the cockpit size tells us the height is correct. He is shorter than Mazinkaiser, that's why they made them like that. You either are an idiot or have some kind of OCD Gapudo, Your post demonstrates who the idiot is. But amazingly, you are correct in two things: Grendizer is taller than Great Mazinger in the OVA - just like Mazinkaiser is taller than Great Mazinger in the OVAs... and, I do have OCD when it comes to keeping the figures scales correct. By the way, your "keyboard courage" is hilarious. }D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 9, 2015 10:08:08 GMT -5
Oh, and to beat a dead horse, Mazinkaiser (Koji version) in the anime was listed as 22 meters tall. Grendizer is supposed to be 30 meters tall. Have no idea how tall Mazinkaizer SKL is. }D OVA Mazinkaiser is 23m, bro. Askin' me, I would give SKL the same height as Kaiser or 30m as Grendizer. Oops! You are correct bro. The OVA Mazinkaiser is 23 meters tall, and Great Mazinger is 20.5 meters tall. Unfortunately, Mazinkaizer SKL's height remains a mystery. LOL But it should still be shorter than Grendizer, judging by the size of the cockpit in relation to the pilot. }D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 9, 2015 16:15:57 GMT -5
Only Grendizer IS taller than Mazinkaiser. Not sure about SKL, but Grendizer should also be taller than that one. }D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 9, 2015 17:43:35 GMT -5
Why do you say the Grendizer is a weaker robot? Not even Go Nagai has implied that, ever! Even when asked directly, Nagai will not say which one is stronger between Mazinkaiser and Grendizer. I am guessing that you like Mazinkaiser better, so to you it has to be the biggest and strongest, right? But I'm afraid that is just your opinion, and not the actual facts in anime, manga, or OVAs. You are correct on the robot heights, except they are not Toei heights - they are Banpresto heights from their SRW games. The sizes of these characters varied constanly from one scene to the next. Grendizer was shown holding a BUS in the palm of its hand, and in another scene, holding a person - and they covered the same space in the hand. But as far as I can remember, only a handful of Super Robots heights were actually discussed in their anime and mangas. Everything else is just made up stuff. }D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 9, 2015 19:37:58 GMT -5
Problem with those stats in the cards, as discussed previously in another thread, is that they (the robots) are not in the same "level". The numbers on the top corner show strenght, armor, and level - may not be in that particular order. So, the player can continue to increade the character level and other attributes. In other words, it's more than just those numbers. Now, don't get me wrong... I think that Mazinkaiser (Koji version) is the strongest, but Grendizer is still taller and heavier. Like I said, even Go Nagai refuses to say which one is the strongest. }D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 9, 2015 20:07:21 GMT -5
You are correct on the robot heights, except they are not Toei heights - they are Banpresto heights from their SRW games. The sizes of these characters varied constanly from one scene to the next. Grendizer was shown holding a BUS in the palm of its hand, and in another scene, holding a person - and they covered the same space in the hand. But as far as I can remember, only a handful of Super Robots heights were actually discussed in their anime and mangas. Everything else is just made up stuff. }D Banpresto numbers are based on Toei numbers. Nope. }D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 9, 2015 20:12:42 GMT -5
Problem with those stats in the cards, as discussed previously in another thread, is that they (the robots) are not in the same "level". The numbers on the top corner show strenght, armor, and level - may not be in that particular order. So, the player can continue to increade the character level and other attributes. In other words, it's more than just those numbers. Now, don't get me wrong... I think that Mazinkaiser (Koji version) is the strongest, but Grendizer is still taller and heavier. Like I said, even Go Nagai refuses to say which one is the strongest. }D The numbers on top corner are not about the levels. It's all about the cost. Stronger robots cost more that's it. I don't think so. This card game was explained in the Mazinger Canon thread, and there was nithing said about cost, just what I mentioned earlier. And if you want to stick to those numbers, there is a Gundam that's well over 900 in these card games. Somehow, I don't think a Gundam, any Gundam, would be more powerful than a Shin Getter or Maxinkaiser... }D
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Post by wartaker on Apr 9, 2015 20:37:31 GMT -5
From old movies....
Getter Dragon seems to be the same size as Great Mazinger look at 23.00. Not sure about Grendizer but Double Spazer seem to be the same size as Great wing.
Great Mazinger vs Grendizer. didnt seem 25 vs 30 m. in last sence.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 9, 2015 21:52:59 GMT -5
So you're saying that Banpresto just pulled those numbers out of their ass? All those numbers are based on official numbers of Toei TV series. Yes. Nope. }D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 9, 2015 21:55:29 GMT -5
I don't think so. This card game was explained in the Mazinger Canon thread, and there was nithing said about cost, just what I mentioned earlier. And if you want to stick to those numbers, there is a Gundam that's well over 900 in these card games. Somehow, I don't think a Gundam, any Gundam, would be more powerful than a Shin Getter or Maxinkaiser... }D Ask anyone who understands Japanese what those numbers are for. As for Gundam being not powerful than Mazinger, now that's what you call opinion lol. Oh well, those cards don't mix. Mazinger cards are to be played with Mazinger cards only. If a Gundam card has higher number? That's no problem, because it only applies in Gundam universe. As far as Mazinger universe goes, Mazinkaiser is the strongest of them all. I will. Bandai Cards are Bandai Cards. All stats are done the same. Now, now...no backpedaling now. }D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 9, 2015 22:40:55 GMT -5
Okay, finally found what I was looking for. I also took the numbers of those cards as how powerful the characters were, but after Chen did some research on the subject, I finally understood how they worked. For more info click on this link and scroll all the way down the page to the Card Game tutorial videos. robotjapan.proboards.com/thread/16936/mazinger-canon?page=56}D
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Post by gravewolf on Apr 10, 2015 3:39:33 GMT -5
Can't we just all agree that in the movies they had to make the go nagai robots almost as tall as each other. I think the problem when they were created was that Go Nagai didn't anticipate the other super robots teaming up when fans demanded it. I think the heights for the statistics are correct but if they followed those stats the mazingers and grendizer would look like midgets compared to getter robo. Especially Jeeg whose just a bit taller than boss borot.
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Post by reVolVer on Apr 10, 2015 5:36:24 GMT -5
hehe.. yeah i dont believe these companies, creators or even Go Nagai himself either.. it will just create confusion if one of these "power hungry freaks" exaggerates thier own creation. just base it on how u see them in the anime (there are buildings, cars, trees, people, pilot), how tall they are .. and i assure u guys.. u will be fine.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 10, 2015 8:14:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure where you got your knowledge from, but it's completely wrong. Banpresto didn't create any of those numbers. This is on the box of Popy GA-37 DX Chogokin Grendizer, and it clearly shows its height which of course is 30m. Also this is taken from Japanese TV magazine issued on March 1975 If you look at the right bottom corner, there're numbers for heights, weights etc. I believe these numbers even got mentioned in some of the TV episodes as well. BTW, Banpresto started making SRW games in 90s. I did say only a handful, didn't I. And again, most of those stata were never discussed in the anime, manga, or OVAs. I don't consider anything not included in those three sources as hard facts. Otherwise, like Gravewolf pointed out, Boss Borot would almost be able to fit in Getter Robot's cockpit. But that info you got is interesting nevertheless. Thanks for sharing it. }D
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