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Post by mazfan on Nov 5, 2014 21:25:14 GMT -5
Though almost all of my SOCs have been purchased brand new, I have a handful of them that were bought brand new. I kind of like the fact that the used SOCs I have purchased have been appreciated by someone else. There seem to be a built in love in them already. Does that sound weird? Do any of you guys feel the same about used SOCs? Maybe I am projecting because I absolutely love my SOCs. I can't ever think of selling my collection but if I do someday, the robots I will sell will come with lots of positive vibes. Another SOC related topic.... I've been collecting since 2000. I almost have all of the SOCs, from GX-01 to 67. I stopped being a completist when Bandai bombarded us with Yamatos and when they unnecessarily released another version of Daitran 3, complete with it's own GX# (this did not make any sense). I'm pointing out the quality aspect of our beloved SOC line because some of my robots are not doing well. Loose joints, electronics/mechanism failure, paint deterioration, etc.... These are really expensive toys, should't they last longer and be more durable? I mean, how are they doing to be 30 years from now? I feel like I've been careful with them. Yeah, I handle and play with my SOCs without gloves but that should not make them fall apart. What are your thoughts? Thanks
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Post by magengar on Nov 6, 2014 2:41:39 GMT -5
In this hobby, Robot Love is contagious throughout the community whether you're a casual collector or a hardcore collector. While I appreciate the figures in my collection that I've purchased, I've felt extremely powerful vibes of TLC coming from figures in my collection that were sold to me or given to me by other RJers. Whether the figures arrived to me in new or mint condition, or missing parts, or beat-up and broken, it's the sentiment behind them that really touches me. I cannot part with them at all. But, I also cannot take them with me into the Afterlife when I pass away... Before my final breath, I hope that I will have the remaining time and strength to pass my collection forward to others who will appreciate them as much as I do. Until that time, I live day by day enjoying these wonderful toys. --------------- As for the SOCs... I haven't experienced the SOC line in its entirety to determine their endurance and longevity. The composite properties, design, mechanics, and manufacturing technologies of the SOCs have come a long way since the GX-01. And that is much more obvious in the vintage gokins and diecast toys of their era, as we're seeing them aging from normal play wear-n-tear and slow composite deterioration. SOC's that were manufactured about ten or so years ago are starting to show their age today, compared to the SOCs that are being manufactured by the current technology standards. The plastic, and diecast materials made Today appear to be more chemically and structurally resilient to the environmental elements than the materials which were used way back then. Stand the GX-04 next to the SOC GaoGaiGar, and you'll see an eye-popping difference between the retro and the modern. Who discusses the GX-04 anymore these days? ...and Not so often, either. Thirty years from now, Today's SOCs will appear as worn and beat-up just like the vintage gokins appear today... For example, the old Tonka truck toys from the early '60s were made of metal, and were hailed as "indestructible". Okay... Those old Tonka toy trucks don't look so 'indestructible' today... ...you'll see them at antique shows and flea-markets, they're so rusty they look like they were salvaged from the bottom of the ocean. lol Time changes everything, including the best made toys. But they still exist no matter what their condition may be. Toys are the documents of one's childhood, and the inner child keeps them archived for ages. zozo-mag
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Post by darkfriar on Nov 6, 2014 3:29:20 GMT -5
Very well said.
though i do have to say my GX-13 has color fading going on in the grey plastic areas of the toy and I hardly play with my socs other than for display. So this is an interesting topic to some degree. I have vintage stuff as well as a lot of modern gokin toys...but i have to say aside from paint chipping and the occasionally yellowing of white plastic in them chunky monkey robotech toys, most of the vintage stuff seems to be holding on to its form relatively well even well beyond 20 to 30 years in some cases now.
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Nov 6, 2014 13:05:13 GMT -5
My GX-05 Tail broke. But otherwise SOC have really great quality control and last pretty good.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Nov 6, 2014 14:50:03 GMT -5
In a few days I should be able to acquire a GX-01, a "new" one, never exposed or anything like that. We shall see how ol' Maz endured all these years in that box. Time is a b*tch, but good toys last long. Sure, their paint might scrap off over the years, articulation loosens, and PVC parts get "shticky". But if those are the only problems, it's fine for me
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Post by mazfan on Nov 6, 2014 21:40:52 GMT -5
What is the best way to get rid of dust off of SOCs?
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Post by magengar on Nov 6, 2014 23:51:31 GMT -5
What is the best way to get rid of dust off of SOCs? I use either a lint-free cloth, or a light-weight feather duster; since I don't have any glass display enclosures. I usually try to stay on top of keeping my room dust-free, for the most part. As for my display, I have some of my collection displayed on my computer desk that has upper shelves (like a "fireplace mantle"), and some of my collection displayed in a bookcase. I'm planning to close the front of my bookcase with a sheet of clear plexiglass so that my collection can still be viewed while keeping dust out. I often re-arrange my display with the change of seasons at the start of Spring, and then again at this time of year before the Christmas holiday season begins, just to refresh my space and get into some cool vibes for the seasons. I'll post pics of my current collection, in the Gallery thread, a bit later. zozo-mag
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Post by B- on Nov 7, 2014 5:52:27 GMT -5
What is the best way to get rid of dust off of SOCs? Microfiber towel with pledge...if your getting dust,Id advise a new displaying technique also Mazfan,DUST is the enemy! as I always say,its also safe to use a feather duster periodically on and around your figures.
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Post by mazfan on Nov 7, 2014 8:56:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the dust related feedback you guys. Why is dust the enemy? Okay, it makes our SOC look dirty but anything else....
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Nov 7, 2014 9:04:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the dust related feedback you guys. Why is dust the enemy? Okay, it makes our SOC look dirty but anything else.... I'm guessing that dust might be a problem with untreated PVC parts, which, getting "sticky" overtime, might get covered in dust, and that would be a pain to get off... also, yeah, nobody wants a dirty SoC, hehe.
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Post by Chen on Nov 7, 2014 9:36:22 GMT -5
"Dust" is pretty much a common name for air particles which could be made out off pretty much anything. From dead skin, to animal dander, dirt, smoke particles, pollution, anything. It all depends on where you live to what's in your house. What dust does is create build-up in joints causes reaction to paint, plastic, and metal and pretty much deteriorates your toys. Unless you keep your toys in a sealed vacuum you will get dust on them. The toys themselves will deteriorate and create particles just from air.
As for SOC themselves. Yeah their pretty much made of better quality products but their not indestructible and in 30 years they will be like any other 30 year old toy maybe just in a tad better shape. In fact it's simpler toys like your low end Transformer which will last longer, their made out of plastic, minimal paint aps, simple designs, and general tolerance to being bashed keeps them pretty durable.
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Post by mazfan on Nov 7, 2014 13:10:43 GMT -5
Wow... Dust is scary stuff!!!
Do you guys think that the SOC line will still be around 15 years from now? And do you think the value of the early SOCs would go up, remain the same or will they be less?
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Post by magengar on Nov 7, 2014 13:29:26 GMT -5
I don't see why the SOC line would fade out in 15 years from now. New robot characters come up all the time, and new generations of fans to go with them. As long as there's a market for the product and the demand is there, the SOC line will continue along with it or perhaps evolve (or reboot) into the next level of SOC-likeness. Toy trends change and adapt to what's In at the moment.
zozo-mag
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Post by B- on Nov 7, 2014 17:12:50 GMT -5
I don't see why the SOC line would fade out in 15 years from now. New robot characters come up all the time, and new generations of fans to go with them. As long as there's a market for the product and the demand is there, the SOC line will continue along with it or perhaps evolve (or reboot) into the next level of SOC-likeness. Toy trends change and adapt to what's In at the moment. zozo-mag I agree MOSTLY with Magengar,but I feel the SOC line is made for primarily classic robots,when all of them are made,or the ones they want to make,either the whole line will be re-released like it is now,OR they will upgrade those they have made already. I dont feel there will be NEW Super Robots made in the line for new collectors though,i just dont see that.Those robots will be made possibly in the SRC line,or in other plastic lines.SOC is "SOUL" of Chogokin,the spirit that started the Super robots,95% of SOCs are that classic spirit.Also vintage Srs redone are a heavy part of the line,the very same characters they made last gen,will be made again modernly in the future.By modernly I DONT MEAN FEWTURE molestation,I mean modern in the way the toys are articulated etc. Just my opinion,and I go by what I see and feel.It comes with a touch of semi-bias for my dislike of most new character Super Robots made after the mid eighties though LOL..
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Post by mojacko on Nov 10, 2014 7:45:18 GMT -5
all the SoC i purchase in my detolf are use...the only mint was the voltes v and mazinger which i sold and i regret doing selling it!! anyway theyre still nice to display....and clicking sounds are still there but some loose joints and minor paint chips are present but i really dont mind it coz im planning to paint them once i get some time off......bwahahahahahaa....(evil laugh)
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Post by mazfan on Nov 19, 2014 20:39:16 GMT -5
SOCs that I purchased used:
- GX-59 Future Robo Daltanious - GX-08MAW Aphrodai A - GX-23A Zambot 3 - GX-45A Mazinger Z Atami Night version. Sold at Autumn 2009 Tamashii Nations Expo - GX-24N Tetsujin 28 Naked version. Sold at Spring 2009 Tamashii Nation Expo - BPX-01 Space Battleship Yamato - SPEC LTD Yatenkou & Muzura - XS-15 Dragonar-3
And I think that either my GX-01R Mazinger Z or GX-02R Great Mazinger was purchased used.
Wow, glad I made this list.... Now, I know that about 10% of my collection was purchased second hand. I love them as much as the 90% that were bought as new.
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Post by greengetterguy on Nov 19, 2014 21:37:21 GMT -5
me too. i love my second hand figures. feels like i rescue them..although they could have found better home then mine ?
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Post by Robot Lover/Fighter on Nov 19, 2014 22:08:20 GMT -5
I dont mind used Chogokins either, specially the older ones that cost sooo much on evil bay... Im ecstatic when I get them and start polishing them with Armour-All to get that really nice shine...
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Post by tetsuryu on Nov 20, 2014 2:27:51 GMT -5
I've bought some older SoCs used. Then again, this is Mandrake's definition of "used", so it probably amounts to squat. But before I got into Mandrake, I did buy some used SoCs off evilbay, like GX-01R, GX-02R and GX-10...I also got GX-24 and GX-28...I think Ideon was the last SoC I bought on ebay, and that was almost two years ago.
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Post by mazfan on Nov 20, 2014 6:22:54 GMT -5
I believe that my one and only non SOC robot, DX Aquarion, was also purchased used.
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