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Post by S_Gokin on Feb 2, 2015 10:17:56 GMT -5
I really really hope they do fix some of the minor issues that CMS grendy faced earlier. The toy is a good gokin with some minor flaws if fixed would make a killer gokin. Its heavy, well balanced and articulation is quite good. Problems: fix the hands please to scale Paint apps would solve some much if done correctly Those stupid pegs for the harkens hopefully will fit right this time and stay fitted Plastic on the joints better quality to improve overall performance of the shoulder ratchets... one of mine literally fell apart on me while posing one time, what started out as a loose joint came off completely. I fixed it somewhat but I know that stupid shoulder is gonna come off eventually again... just bad tolerance on that one sample... (yes i picked up a few ... due to all the qc issues..) Those damn spazer doors don't really wanna open well. Other than this mine's didn't have a lot of other problems... What i really hope is that someone picks up the mold / license to do acrobunch and makes the damn thing already... lol those isnt a minor issues my friend, some collector just skipped getting it because of those awful QCs but we hope they will fix most of of the QCs
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Post by B- on Feb 2, 2015 11:00:17 GMT -5
What i really hope is that someone picks up the mold / license to do acrobunch and makes the damn thing already... lol Man after my own heart!! hahah I WANTED THAT ACROBUNCH SO BAD I COULD TASTE IT!! Not only was it supposed to come out once BUT TWICE!! CMs put it on back burner years ago,and then missed teh oppotunity again recently cuz they closed up. It would be to cool,and much too brave for any other company to do Acrobunch again besides ET,Bandai never will,scared to death of any low tier SRs,I really am surprised they havent done Diappolon or Mekanda though as they were big time Vintage toys,and the SOC line tends to redo popular DX vintage stuff,again scared or just dont care. CMs championed the low tier robots,thats why i feel they were the bestcompany ever,even though Bandai stuff is better quality overall CMS had some rocking robots,and several are my top favorites!!!They also were slated to do GODAM!!! but lost the liscensing,uggh. If CMs were alive they would have entually done all the rare COOL AS HELL SRs,QC issues or not,at least CMs had BALLS!! Unlike Bandai,who has to "try out" obscure Super Robots with there Evolution Toys company.Thats right Ive heard from 2 people now that ET is really Bandai who tries out characters through them and charges loads,to see how many people will bite first.But it could be bad info,but then again it came from reputable sources.. either way YES Darkfriar even though there are probably 5 members on thsi board that would even buy Acrobunch,over in Europe he would sell like HOTCAKES!! along with diecast Diapolon,Daikengo,Mekanda Robo,Godam,Baxingar etc etc..Baxingar was also going to be put out in large size to match teh large Bryger that Yamato did,even was a painted prototype!but sadly he just remains one small GN-U,the only one of the J9 trio that got a big and little SR was Bryger..
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Post by darkfriar on Feb 2, 2015 16:39:16 GMT -5
I really really hope they do fix some of the minor issues that CMS grendy faced earlier. The toy is a good gokin with some minor flaws if fixed would make a killer gokin. Its heavy, well balanced and articulation is quite good. Problems: fix the hands please to scale Paint apps would solve some much if done correctly Those stupid pegs for the harkens hopefully will fit right this time and stay fitted Plastic on the joints better quality to improve overall performance of the shoulder ratchets... one of mine literally fell apart on me while posing one time, what started out as a loose joint came off completely. I fixed it somewhat but I know that stupid shoulder is gonna come off eventually again... just bad tolerance on that one sample... (yes i picked up a few ... due to all the qc issues..) Those damn spazer doors don't really wanna open well. Other than this mine's didn't have a lot of other problems... What i really hope is that someone picks up the mold / license to do acrobunch and makes the damn thing already... lol those isnt a minor issues my friend, some collector just skipped getting it because of those awful QCs but we hope they will fix most of of the QCs I know being totally sarcastic with my comments earlier I think i was venting a bit while listing the issues I ran into with both of my sets. Its almost like If I combined the two sets into one I'd get a pretty good CMs Grendy ... I'm not championing the idea to buy more than one here but that's what my experience was... and yet the stupid part is ... this thing is so close to being awesome which, only made it more frustrating in away at least for me. Regardless, I think I was really looking forward to someone trying to give us a newer representation of grendy... banana head and all I just hope Aoshima picks-up the gaps that cms started cause then we'd all be rejoicing [/quote]
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Post by S_Gokin on Feb 3, 2015 10:25:32 GMT -5
those isnt a minor issues my friend, some collector just skipped getting it because of those awful QCs but we hope they will fix most of of the QCs I know being totally sarcastic with my comments earlier I think i was venting a bit while listing the issues I ran into with both of my sets. Its almost like If I combined the two sets into one I'd get a pretty good CMs Grendy ... I'm not championing the idea to buy more than one here but that's what my experience was... and yet the stupid part is ... this thing is so close to being awesome which, only made it more frustrating in away at least for me. Regardless, I think I was really looking forward to someone trying to give us a newer representation of grendy... banana head and all I just hope Aoshima picks-up the gaps that cms started cause then we'd all be rejoicing i thought you were talking for real lol its a really awesome figure but those awful QCs killed it, they give it alot of new ideas but they didnt do it well, hopefully Aoshima will do a better job bringing those idea to live better than CMs BTW guys do you think this figure is what killed CMs or they were already down before they release it ?
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Post by S_Gokin on Apr 20, 2015 0:12:56 GMT -5
any new news about this guy ?
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Post by chogokinabdul on Apr 20, 2015 1:51:50 GMT -5
Yup ... I am waiting for any news on it
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Post by B- on Apr 20, 2015 17:41:03 GMT -5
Before you read on this is a RANT Ive been holding back about CMs for a while,read if you want ..
.This figure killed CMS AND IT KILLS ME that we cant have the quality of RARER figures CMs offered because of making Grendizer which Bandai or any other damn mainstream Super Robot company could have made,BUT CMS HAD THE BALLS TO DO IT!!.Instead of appreciating the best grendizer sculpt to date,we lose CMs over whining SOC ONLY collectors, pathetic.
Never will we get quality diecast rare robots because of moron collectors who want to compare every figure to Bandai and then cry when its not Bandai quality because they are supposedly out of the DRASTICALLY HUGE SUM of 250$.Its sickening,If your teh type of person who compares everything to bandai and cant recover over a few paint flaws because you spent your whole bank account on it,and are asking everyone who to contact overseas about a paint flaw,maybe you should collect Walmart Transformers or Hot Wheels cars instead.
It pisses me off,the sooner collectors realize this hobby comes with risks,theses toys arent custom made for YOU! They are factory made,sometimes with YES below average QC.Im mad because if there werent so many complaints we would still have CMs.
Yes Id be pissed if mine had major flaws,but there WERE NOT that many,just Bandai snobs who want perfect toys,with zero flaws.Alot of collectors love Grendizer,ALOT of those were SOC only guys,but NEEDED the CMs,this was alot of their first non Bandai Gokin Im sure,THOSE GUYS KILLED CMS,with all the returns and issues.And yes i put my money where my mouth is,my Spazer isnt perfect,but that is the gamble you take!!Alot of potential buyers knew this STILL bought it and STILL then complained!
Thats why CMs folded,all the issues with this toy.Expand your minds people CMs was every bit as good as SOC,in quality not always,but sometimes BETTER,in choices of Robots ??ALWAYS better.They were a small company with BIG balls,when is the last time Bandai gave you what you REALLY wanted? CMs did that for me MANY TIMES more than Bandai! I just WISH they never attempted Grendizer we would probably have Diapolon,acrobunch,Godam and God Mazinger by now!!And why?Becuase OOOH everyone had to have the perfect Grendizer!! NEWBIES.
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Post by tetsuryu on Apr 20, 2015 18:00:50 GMT -5
and cant recover over a few paint flaws I thought it was because of stuff like, I dunno, the head snapping off in the box?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 18:26:14 GMT -5
Rant or not this makes no sense at all! So are you implying that just because this is an expensive hobby, we should accept garbage quality from companies that make obscure toys? Screw that!
Most of us work hard, so we can buy the toys like we like. Therefore, we expect the quality to match the money that we are investing on them. If a company can up keep up with good quality, then it does not deserve anyone's hard earned money.
CM's is dead because of CM's own doing. As far as I know, the owners committed suicide because the company was in the red. (Yes, those obscure toys were not generation the revenue that they projected). The company decided to make Grendizer as a last ditch effort to make some much needed revenue. Unfortunately corners were cut during the manufacturing process, so units were sent to the hands of customers with missing parts, parts that broke-off out of the box, and other QC issues that were far worse than the poor paint apps that you are implying.
Bandai is alive and well because although not perfect (paint apps issues you know), overall QC control is pretty good. So yes, customers have the right to use Bandai SOC as the benchmark standard. And Bandai knows that no matter how many repaints they make, they will always sell. So they can release an obscure robot every now and then, but not as often as most of us want.
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Post by B- on Apr 20, 2015 19:00:33 GMT -5
Saying CMs Grendizer is garbage quality makes no sense at all!!Quality issues,yes,garbage ?LOL.That figure looks better displayed than most of my SOCs.
Um I WORK VERY HARD for my money,but i also accept the facts that NOT ALL toys are Bandai!!I order from a person that doesnt speak my language and from thousands of miles away,this hobby has risks!and If i want a certain super Robot that SOC doesnt make Im not afraid to buy it because of a couple issues some guy in east wherever had.
Also how come AS SOON AS Arcadia and Aoshima puts Grendizer and Jeeg out everyone wants it?But when CMs put the SAME Jeeg out years ago NO ONE BOUGHT IT!!!
Ok the attitude that CMS sucks cuz they wont stand on their own????What Baratack?well what about Bandais Jeeg??Your telling me that stands on its own?PLEASE!So easy to overlook bandai issues,ALL SRCS have joint issues ALL OF THEM!
Also most collectors UNLIKE you CFF and MYself only gravitate toward Grendizer and Mazingers,Getters and Jeeg {JUST LATELY no one knew Jeeg until every company put one out}so they never bought a CMs toy,then when they see grendizer they all want it,and when it doesnt make their grade its horrible?Give me a break.
and Yes NO ONE PRAISES CMS because NO ONE BUYS OBSCURE ROBOTS!!! If people would broaden their minds a bit and buy something other than the big 4 or 5 they would see that CMs made AWESOME TOYS!!
Do you who rank on CMs have Gyakuten,Sankan oh,Goshogun?Pegas?Gakeen?Gordian?Baldios,I can go on all day the Time bokan insects have MORE DIECAST THAN ANY SINGLE BANDAI TOY!....sure CMs had a few bad ones,but I guarantee the guys who hate CMs dont even own their toys.
CMs non combiners beat Bandais Non combiners all day long! and expensicve??You can get Gyakuten-Oh for under 100$ and it is more quality and diecast than any SOC in that range PERIOD!
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Post by B- on Apr 20, 2015 19:04:24 GMT -5
and cant recover over a few paint flaws I thought it was because of stuff like, I dunno, the head snapping off in the box? Yeah on how many units? one?Howabout SOC surprises years later like your avatars {SOC IDEON}arms falling off and joints snapping?howabout those QC issues,test of time anyone? Or why all of us have to buy rubber protectant cuz teh cheap rubber bandai uses doesnt last 2 years,funny no rubber on any of my CMs has issues! Also guys... You know what? I DONT WANT TO HEAR teh obscure SR excuse anymore because it holds ZERO weight,Everyone who buys SOC bought Tryder and Daioja are you telling me those are famous SRs??NO but because Bandai did them they are cool,if CMs made them no one would even glance.Its sad really. Its not even about the Robots anymore its about quality ? Then collect fancy pens or watches.If your not collecting for teh Robots why are you collecting Robots??sure quality matters but for me it comes second that is the difference i think,I love the characters more than the paint job or articulation.
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Post by B- on Apr 20, 2015 19:18:46 GMT -5
You know what? I DONT WANT TO HEAR teh obscure SR excuse anymore because it holds ZERO weight,Everyone who buys SOC bought Tryder and Daioja are you telling me those are famous SRs??NO but because Bandai did them they are cool,if CMs made them no one would even glance.Its sad really. Its not even about the Robots anymore its about quality ? Then collect fancy pens or watches.If your not collecting for teh Robots why are you collecting Robots??sure quality matters but for me it comes second that is the difference i think,I love the characters more than the paint job or articulation. Im trying to complete a collection,ALL CLASSIC SRS that is NOT possible with just Bandai.
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Post by chogokinabdul on Apr 20, 2015 23:35:58 GMT -5
Before you read on this is a RANT Ive been holding back about CMs for a while,read if you want .. .This figure killed CMS AND IT KILLS ME that we cant have the quality of RARER figures CMs offered because of making Grendizer which Bandai or any other damn mainstream Super Robot company could have made,BUT CMS HAD THE BALLS TO DO IT!!.Instead of appreciating the best grendizer sculpt to date,we lose CMs over whining SOC ONLY collectors, pathetic. Never will we get quality diecast rare robots because of moron collectors who want to compare every figure to Bandai and then cry when its not Bandai quality because they are supposedly out of the DRASTICALLY HUGE SUM of 250$.Its sickening,If your teh type of person who compares everything to bandai and cant recover over a few paint flaws because you spent your whole bank account on it,and are asking everyone who to contact overseas about a paint flaw,maybe you should collect Walmart Transformers or Hot Wheels cars instead. It pisses me off,the sooner collectors realize this hobby comes with risks,theses toys arent custom made for YOU! They are factory made,sometimes with YES below average QC.Im mad because if there werent so many complaints we would still have CMs. Yes Id be pissed if mine had major flaws,but there WERE NOT that many,just Bandai snobs who want perfect toys,with zero flaws.Alot of collectors love Grendizer,ALOT of those were SOC only guys,but NEEDED the CMs,this was alot of their first non Bandai Gokin Im sure,THOSE GUYS KILLED CMS,with all the returns and issues.And yes i put my money where my mouth is,my Spazer isnt perfect,but that is the gamble you take!!Alot of potential buyers knew this STILL bought it and STILL then complained! Thats why CMs folded,all the issues with this toy.Expand your minds people CMs was every bit as good as SOC,in quality not always,but sometimes BETTER,in choices of Robots ??ALWAYS better.They were a small company with BIG balls,when is the last time Bandai gave you what you REALLY wanted? CMs did that for me MANY TIMES more than Bandai! I just WISH they never attempted Grendizer we would probably have Diapolon,acrobunch,Godam and God Mazinger by now!!And why?Becuase OOOH everyone had to have the perfect Grendizer!! NEWBIES. I hear you and I feel the same .... but what killed cm is not Grendizer alone ! it is the many items that they wanted to release around the same time and all are priced high! so non managed to sell well and grendizer was the final blow! we collectors have a great role in that though ! what killed this project is the lack of pre orders ! a lot of collectors didn't want to preorder this and decided to wait for reviews !! the lack of the anticipated preorders forced CM to switch factories In china from the good factory that worked on CM jeeg which is an expensive factory to a cheaper one which I think this was their first project with them and a little cheaper. but they never thought the QC would be sacrificed that much. I tried to defend the grendizer Brave gokin a lot !! I am not a wealthy person and I have a family and I had to run away from Syria my country leaving my home and most of my collection there but still I did buy two of this toy and I was lucky that both of them almost qc free (one normal and one limited with the group buy that lejam organized) and I keep telling collectors ... get this gokin ..... it is the best looking grendizer !! it reminds you of how a good gokin should be : anime accurate , articulated and full with metal) I love every single brave gokin I have , and the ones I don't have I didn't get because I don't like the characters themselves not because they were produced by CMs
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Post by B- on Apr 21, 2015 0:09:59 GMT -5
CM's Gyakuten-Oh's retail price was 20000 yen when it was released in 2009. Around the same time, Bandai offered GX-31V Voltes V (respect) and GX-50 Combattler V for less (18000 yen) Even your 5 year old nephew can tell who has better offer. dude no one is being rude here but you ..so relax before u get reported for being personal.. why do people always get personal to prove a point..does it require that?....Besides consider the inflated price Voltes has now versus the deflated price the CMs has ..also easy to see the better deal if you want to go that route.
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Post by B- on Apr 21, 2015 0:17:20 GMT -5
Before you read on this is a RANT Ive been holding back about CMs for a while,read if you want .. .This figure killed CMS AND IT KILLS ME that we cant have the quality of RARER figures CMs offered because of making Grendizer which Bandai or any other damn mainstream Super Robot company could have made,BUT CMS HAD THE BALLS TO DO IT!!.Instead of appreciating the best grendizer sculpt to date,we lose CMs over whining SOC ONLY collectors, pathetic. Never will we get quality diecast rare robots because of moron collectors who want to compare every figure to Bandai and then cry when its not Bandai quality because they are supposedly out of the DRASTICALLY HUGE SUM of 250$.Its sickening,If your teh type of person who compares everything to bandai and cant recover over a few paint flaws because you spent your whole bank account on it,and are asking everyone who to contact overseas about a paint flaw,maybe you should collect Walmart Transformers or Hot Wheels cars instead. It pisses me off,the sooner collectors realize this hobby comes with risks,theses toys arent custom made for YOU! They are factory made,sometimes with YES below average QC.Im mad because if there werent so many complaints we would still have CMs. Yes Id be pissed if mine had major flaws,but there WERE NOT that many,just Bandai snobs who want perfect toys,with zero flaws.Alot of collectors love Grendizer,ALOT of those were SOC only guys,but NEEDED the CMs,this was alot of their first non Bandai Gokin Im sure,THOSE GUYS KILLED CMS,with all the returns and issues.And yes i put my money where my mouth is,my Spazer isnt perfect,but that is the gamble you take!!Alot of potential buyers knew this STILL bought it and STILL then complained! Thats why CMs folded,all the issues with this toy.Expand your minds people CMs was every bit as good as SOC,in quality not always,but sometimes BETTER,in choices of Robots ??ALWAYS better.They were a small company with BIG balls,when is the last time Bandai gave you what you REALLY wanted? CMs did that for me MANY TIMES more than Bandai! I just WISH they never attempted Grendizer we would probably have Diapolon,acrobunch,Godam and God Mazinger by now!!And why?Becuase OOOH everyone had to have the perfect Grendizer!! NEWBIES. I hear you and I feel the same .... but what killed cm is not Grendizer alone ! it is the many items that they wanted to release around the same time and all are priced high! so non managed to sell well and grendizer was the final blow! we collectors have a great role in that though ! what killed this project is the lack of pre orders ! a lot of collectors didn't want to preorder this and decided to wait for reviews !! the lack of the anticipated preorders forced CM to switch factories In china from the good factory that worked on CM jeeg which is an expensive factory to a cheaper one which I think this was their first project with them and a little cheaper. but they never thought the QC would be sacrificed that much. I tried to defend the grendizer Brave gokin a lot !! I am not a wealthy person and I have a family and I had to run away from Syria my country leaving my home and most of my collection there but still I did buy two of this toy and I was lucky that both of them almost qc free (one normal and one limited with the group buy that lejam organized) and I keep telling collectors ... get this gokin ..... it is the best looking grendizer !! it reminds you of how a good gokin should be : anime accurate , articulated and full with metal) I love every single brave gokin I have , and the ones I don't have I didn't get because I don't like the characters themselves not because they were produced by CMs thanks for being honest..seems the consensus here to just be blatantly rude and argue,.finally an opinion that can at least consider cms in a positive light..how refreshing. Now the reissue of this is going to be praised as a perfect toy not only because Aoshima fixes the flaws but just because people love Aoshima..which I find unfair because this is a CMs toy and they designed this...
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Post by chogokinabdul on Apr 21, 2015 0:51:17 GMT -5
@ BARON WEIRWULF no need to thank me ... it is the real thing ! I still kick my self for not getting the brave gokin mecha button time bokan although I have the other two and for not getting guardian ! and I mean it when I say I love their grendizer to a point where I bought two just to feel that I am some how supporting them !! although my life style now since I am traveling between countries trying to find a place to settle can't allow me to keep boxes but for those two I kept them !! theiy are over sized but I have to keep them!!
@ Kaus you are right and one of biggest problems was pricing their products really high ! but it worked for them for some items like brave gokin tekkaman and gaudian and jeeg (sold out every where in a matter of a week)
what I don't understand is people complain about their pricing but buying over priced toys made of only plastic and magnets !! Those are waaaay overpriced for what they are!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 0:59:15 GMT -5
Saying CMs Grendizer is garbage quality makes no sense at all!! Show me where I stated that CM'S Grendizer is garbage. I do happen to own a CM'S Grendizer. The scuplt is gorgeous, and although QC is decent on my sample, I do recall the terrible QC issues that fellow members had when they got their copies. So you might want to dig that all thread and re-read it because paint issues were the least of that figure's problems. I also happen to own CM'S Jeeg, which to this day I still claim it to be the best version of jeeg avsilable. Followed by Gakeen and Gordian. Oh, and if you want to know I also happen to own Galiant (both metallic & anime versions),Gyakuten,Sankan oh,Goshogun and Baldios. Among GGG version 2, Mospeada, and other Brave Yusha robots. The company was hurting due to lack of revenue, so deal with it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 1:12:33 GMT -5
I'd consider calling fellow collectors 'moron' for not buying something that you like 'rude' If you want respect, you should begin by respecting others. And, do you really think it's fair to compare an inflated price of a toy to a discounted ones? In fact it's one of the reason why people would avoid CM's stuff. Buying $200 toy for $100 won't help CM's Corp either. Well said.
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Post by S_Gokin on Apr 21, 2015 5:03:29 GMT -5
well i thought there's a new picture or something but here we are talking about companies lol my opinion in this matter i cant blame people if they compare any new toy to Bandai its just like when car companies compare their cars to the Germans why because German people are the best in the industry like Bandai is the best in figures i own two CMs Gakeen and Goshogun they are a decent figures and the only one available till this time CMs did a great job with them, but with the CMs Grendizer it wasn't the same, its wasnt just about paint or broken parts or horribly done ankle or huge fists, it was the execute of the toy it self they didnt work on it like they should even tho they had an awesome idea for it the cockpit in both Grendizer and the Spazer the articulated screw crusher punch and the huge Spazer but the figured turn up to be a huge disappointment sadly most collectors skipped it because of that i mean whats the point to have a great looking figure but you cant touch it because you are afraid it will break its like having the Batmobile but you cant drive it i dont own any thing from Aoshima but according to some collector they are decent, and when they decided they will do this figure again all of the fans including me want one because CMs Grendizer will be by far the best Grendizer figure with out all that QCs
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Post by gravewolf on Apr 21, 2015 6:33:50 GMT -5
Let's hope that aoshima gets rid of qc flaws of this figure. I'll still wait for a review before getting one if this gets released.
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