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Post by chogokinabdul on Apr 29, 2015 11:49:12 GMT -5
no way how do you figure when absolutely nothing has changed? If that was the case wed see a drastic difference.just because you see a finished product doesn't mean they are all done its just a finished proto they even said that.Also what did they do with thousands of finished hlpro versions?? No this toy never got past proto with hlpro..and now fewture is buying time showing more protos. well maybe the figure wasnt well made and Fewture wanted to make it better we didnt touch or feel the figure so i guess they change materials and make the joint much better keep in mind most site put Fewture name with caps on and way down they put HL Pro so its Fewture name to the product Keep in mind Presentation or marketing prototypes are not the same as production ones. Fewture may have needed to rework less visually apparent things for production. Such as re-engineer joints or connectors, etc. Plus I get the feeling that the "partners" in this are neither particularly balanced nor are they talking to or covering for each other. For all we know Fewture is on their expected production schedule and the other half has been jumping the gun on preorders and promises. i know man the prototypes are not the same as the final product, i love Fewture but they are not as sharp as Bandai on the production schedule they just delayed Grendizer man for a month i was so exited for him i even cleaned both Mazinger & Great Mazinger so i can display them all together well... we saw how many delays went on Gin Gin and that was all HL-Pro so we can't blame fewture for this delay as HL-pro is famous of their delays. Fewture are very known for their delays but their stuff are faaaaaar more complicated than HL-pro toys ! and with that level of complexity I prefer they take their time to deliver something with minimal QC problems ... on the other hand ... we know nothing about HL-pro in progress items !!! such a simple design and character put in my head these two questions: 1- why the High price Tag ? (170 $ + shipping) 2- why all the delays ?
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Post by S_Gokin on Apr 30, 2015 5:30:02 GMT -5
well... we saw how many delays went on Gin Gin and that was all HL-Pro so we can't blame fewture for this delay as HL-pro is famous of their delays. Fewture are very known for their delays but their stuff are faaaaaar more complicated than HL-pro toys ! and with that level of complexity I prefer they take their time to deliver something with minimal QC problems ... on the other hand ... we know nothing about HL-pro in progress items !!! such a simple design and character put in my head these two questions: 1- why the High price Tag ? (170 $ + shipping) 2- why all the delays ? we are not comparing between Fewture and HL Pro both have a different way and a different philosophy in the business, so when they are working together on some thing it will take time to find a place in between i paid $140 for mine (without shipping) but i guess they are asking this price because no one does Gattaiger before and they are taking advantage of that all the delays we don't really know for sure but we are guessing things
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Post by S_Gokin on May 1, 2015 9:05:21 GMT -5
a very recent photos it kinda look like SOC style, notice the Gattaiger (Spazer) is the same one that HL Pro showed on their FB page i guess the release date will be final
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 0:34:10 GMT -5
a very recent photos it kinda look like SOC style, notice the Gattaiger (Spazer) is the same one that HL Pro showed on their FB page i guess the release date will be final Dude, these are the same Gattaigers that were shown last year. And if you look at the close-up picture of the Anime Colored version, you will see scratches on the upper leg.
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Post by B- on May 10, 2015 3:27:50 GMT -5
a very recent photos it kinda look like SOC style, notice the Gattaiger (Spazer) is the same one that HL Pro showed on their FB page i guess the release date will be final Dude, these are the same Gattaigers that were shown last year. And if you look at the close-up picture of the Anime Colored version, you will see scratches on the upper leg. of course they are HLPro sucks period.I don't care what they think about that..all they do is lie.here that HLpro?you suck.
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Post by S_Gokin on May 10, 2015 8:33:14 GMT -5
a very recent photos it kinda look like SOC style, notice the Gattaiger (Spazer) is the same one that HL Pro showed on their FB page i guess the release date will be final Dude, these are the same Gattaigers that were shown last year. And if you look at the close-up picture of the Anime Colored version, you will see scratches on the upper leg. well i dont think so because the last year samples didnt have these scratches, i guess they did it on purpose to show this is a new sample also if you take a good look you will notice the Gattaiger (Spazer) is the same one HL Pro showed on their FB like a month ago and in the background you will see the new Fewture Getter Poseidon so i guess its very recent photo the only thing i hope they do is to cover the nails holes in the back or at least include the covers
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Post by faelon on May 10, 2015 15:15:00 GMT -5
I honestly don't think the pictures indicate anything at all regarding shipping or production or release schedules. There is nothing there to indicate if those are production or pre production samples. They look like a polished and refined product, but it is still just the standing figure. No packaging. No accessories. All it tells us, at best, is that the final design of the figure itself is set and locked in. (Maybe?). It looks like a nice product announcement display. Not a finalized "almost ready for shipping" trade display.
Don't get me wrong it is possible that they are on track to release any day now. My only comment is there is nothing in those photos indicative of that. By the same token the scratch on the one fig tells us nothing beyond it was accidentally mishandled. Actually given that this was a trade event it does tell us something. Whoever set up the booth only had one copy of that figure on site (or if they had another it was damaged worse.) a single product sample at the trade show means it is likely a pre production sample and actual production samples have not been released to marketing at the time that photo was taken.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on May 10, 2015 15:44:12 GMT -5
If I could get the money I pre-paid for the Gattaiger back, I would do so and never regret it. HLPro really did us costumers wrong with their false promises of a rare figure released in a reasonable amount of time. In comparison, HLPro makes Fewture seem timely with their own EX Gokin and ES Gokin releases. }|
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Post by B- on May 10, 2015 23:22:59 GMT -5
And how about all the other announced toys? The base especially when will we even see that? Or the long list of other stuff..remember Grendy V2??
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 0:34:43 GMT -5
Dude, these are the same Gattaigers that were shown last year. And if you look at the close-up picture of the Anime Colored version, you will see scratches on the upper leg. well i dont think so because the last year samples didnt have these scratches, i guess they did it on purpose to show this is a new sample also if you take a good look you will notice the Gattaiger (Spazer) is the same one HL Pro showed on their FB like a month ago and in the background you will see the new Fewture Getter Poseidon so i guess its very recent photo the only thing i hope they do is to cover the nails holes in the back or at least include the covers The pictures are recent, but the figures are from last year. It is proven by the scratched leg due to mishandling. Seriously dude. Do you honestly think that they would scratch it on purpose to indicate that it is a newer figure? It absolutely makes no sense. If they were newer figures, the boxes would be displayed next to them. EDIT: And that proto spazer means nothing to me other than that this thing is not ready.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 0:58:18 GMT -5
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Post by faelon on May 11, 2015 8:06:38 GMT -5
A useful rule I find for evaluating products from trade shows. Especially retailer or distributed targeted industry trade shows (as opposed to public stuff like SDCC) is if they aren't showing you at least a well refined mock up of the final packaging and contents, then they are at least 6 months from shipping product. To the retailers the packaging is as important to see as the product itself. That's what sits on their shelves. It's what teases the purchaser and it is what takes up precious retail space. A great toy in an ugly repulsive box is worthless to them. So the buyers want to see the boxes. Packaging production takes 3-6 months all by itself, from art assets to printing to multiple vendors for materials, to packaging assembly and QC. If they aren't showing you at least the first step, the art assets, at the show, then the rest is not in the pipeline yet.
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Post by S_Gokin on May 11, 2015 9:36:43 GMT -5
I honestly don't think the pictures indicate anything at all regarding shipping or production or release schedules. There is nothing there to indicate if those are production or pre production samples. They look like a polished and refined product, but it is still just the standing figure. No packaging. No accessories. All it tells us, at best, is that the final design of the figure itself is set and locked in. (Maybe?). It looks like a nice product announcement display. Not a finalized "almost ready for shipping" trade display. Don't get me wrong it is possible that they are on track to release any day now. My only comment is there is nothing in those photos indicative of that. By the same token the scratch on the one fig tells us nothing beyond it was accidentally mishandled. Actually given that this was a trade event it does tell us something. Whoever set up the booth only had one copy of that figure on site (or if they had another it was damaged worse.) a single product sample at the trade show means it is likely a pre production sample and actual production samples have not been released to marketing at the time that photo was taken. i understand your point man but if you see in the old photos the Gattaiger (Spazer) was in full color not a silver and yellow so i guess this is the Fewture take not the same one we saw earlier so i guess this is a new one If I could get the money I pre-paid for the Gattaiger back, I would do so and never regret it. HLPro really did us costumers wrong with their false promises of a rare figure released in a reasonable amount of time. In comparison, HLPro makes Fewture seem timely with their own EX Gokin and ES Gokin releases. }| join the club bro i also paid for it but at the bright side we all in this together its not like i paid for it + shipping and still waiting for AE to ship it (yea still waiting for them to ship my items) well i dont think so because the last year samples didnt have these scratches, i guess they did it on purpose to show this is a new sample also if you take a good look you will notice the Gattaiger (Spazer) is the same one HL Pro showed on their FB like a month ago and in the background you will see the new Fewture Getter Poseidon so i guess its very recent photo the only thing i hope they do is to cover the nails holes in the back or at least include the covers The pictures are recent, but the figures are from last year. It is proven by the scratched leg due to mishandling. Seriously dude. Do you honestly think that they would scratch it on purpose to indicate that it is a newer figure? It absolutely makes no sense. If they were newer figures, the boxes would be displayed next to them. EDIT: And that proto spazer means nothing to me other than that this thing is not ready. yea i think so because no one handle the toy so we don't know about it and this is a one way to show they are working on new articulation or joints, i dont recall boxes been displayed next to new figures man ok why they display this new colorless Gattaiger (Spazer) when they have a full colored one ready ? think about it i guess this one is done by Fewture remember this figure was by HL Pro alone then they join forces with Fewture yea they delayed it to be released with Z Mazinger
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Post by S_Gokin on May 11, 2015 9:39:12 GMT -5
P.S guys the spazer is called Gattaiger while the robot is called Roboizer so we dont get confused
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 15:25:46 GMT -5
The pictures are recent, but the figures are from last year. It is proven by the scratched leg due to mishandling. Seriously dude. Do you honestly think that they would scratch it on purpose to indicate that it is a newer figure? It absolutely makes no sense. If they were newer figures, the boxes would be displayed next to them. EDIT: And that proto spazer means nothing to me other than that this thing is not ready. yea i think so because no one handle the toy so we don't know about it and this is a one way to show they are working on new articulation or joints, i dont recall boxes been displayed next to new figures man ok why they display this new colorless Gattaiger (Spazer) when they have a full colored one ready ? think about it i guess this one is done by Fewture remember this figure was by HL Pro alone then they join forces with Fewture yea they delayed it to be released with Z Mazinger [/quote] Sorry man, I know that English is your second language, but your comments make no sense. There are no new figures. The figures shown are from last year, including the Z-Mazinger ones. The proto Gattaiger, means nothing. No need to defend that company.
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Post by faelon on May 11, 2015 15:26:43 GMT -5
The pictures are recent, but the figures are from last year. It is proven by the scratched leg due to mishandling. Seriously dude. Do you honestly think that they would scratch it on purpose to indicate that it is a newer figure? It absolutely makes no sense. If they were newer figures, the boxes would be displayed next to them. EDIT: And that proto spazer means nothing to me other than that this thing is not ready. yea i think so because no one handle the toy so we don't know about it and this is a one way to show they are working on new articulation or joints, i dont recall boxes been displayed next to new figures man If you look over the Robots shoulder in that picture you can see a Kotetsu Jeeg (sp?) displayed with its box art. There would also appear to be another display with a packaging art mock up just to the left of those figures. They always try to show off packaging at trade shows wherever possible.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 15:52:23 GMT -5
yea i think so because no one handle the toy so we don't know about it and this is a one way to show they are working on new articulation or joints, i dont recall boxes been displayed next to new figures man If you look over the Robots shoulder in that picture you can see a Kotetsu Jeeg (sp?) displayed with its box art. There would also appear to be another display with a packaging art mock up just to the left of those figures. They always try to show off packaging at trade shows wherever possible. S_Gokin, You posted the picture, look at the box behind Jeeg.
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Post by S_Gokin on May 11, 2015 16:59:10 GMT -5
The pictures are recent, but the figures are from last year. It is proven by the scratched leg due to mishandling. Seriously dude. Do you honestly think that they would scratch it on purpose to indicate that it is a newer figure? It absolutely makes no sense. If they were newer figures, the boxes would be displayed next to them. EDIT: And that proto spazer means nothing to me other than that this thing is not ready. yea i think so because no one handle the toy so we don't know about it and this is a one way to show they are working on new articulation or joints, i dont recall boxes been displayed next to new figures man ok why they display this new colorless Gattaiger (Spazer) when they have a full colored one ready ? think about it i guess this one is done by Fewture remember this figure was by HL Pro alone then they join forces with Fewture yea they delayed it to be released with Z Mazinger Sorry man, I know that English is your second language, but your comments make no sense. There are no new figures. The figures shown are from last year, including the Z-Mazinger ones. The proto Gattaiger, means nothing. No need to defend that company. [/quote] tell me what you didn't understand in my comment and i will explain it bro if you remember in the Z Mazinger thread before it was deleted i posted a photo of a prototype figure you can check it on HL Pro FB page it was on the 30th of march couple of months ago we didnt saw a photo of the actual toy all were samples and in that stand most of the figures are new so i guessed this is might be the Fewture Gattaiger and im not defending them or against them im just trying to guess what going on with them they cant just be trolling us with deadlines man no company want a bad reputation, something is going on specially with Gattaiger If you look over the Robots shoulder in that picture you can see a Kotetsu Jeeg (sp?) displayed with its box art. There would also appear to be another display with a packaging art mock up just to the left of those figures. They always try to show off packaging at trade shows wherever possible. S_Gokin, You posted the picture, look at the box behind Jeeg. i saw it but i thought it was a panel honestly lol but still its a rare case most companies just dont show box art until the release of the figure, why only Jeeg have a box what about the other next to him ?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 17:21:51 GMT -5
tell me what you didn't understand in my comment and i will explain it bro if you remember in the Z Mazinger thread before it was deleted i posted a photo of a prototype figure you can check it on HL Pro FB page it was on the 30th of march couple of months ago we didnt saw a photo of the actual toy all were samples and in that stand most of the figures are new so i guessed this is might be the Fewture Gattaiger and im not defending them or against them im just trying to guess what going on with them they cant just be trolling us with deadlines man no company want a bad reputation, something is going on specially with Gattaiger I do understand your comments, it is just that they do not make sense period. If you are not defending them, then why are you trying to guess for them? Anyway, I am done with this discussion as it seems that you do not get it.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on May 11, 2015 17:39:34 GMT -5
im just trying to guess what going on with them they cant just be trolling us with deadlines man no company want a bad reputation, something is going on specially with Gattaiger [/quote] Well, looking at HLpro's past, I'd say they do want bad reputation. According to people who pre-ordered Gattaiger, this figure has been in development at least since 2013. Maybe even for longer. 2 years have passed and still nothing, just now they're showing us pics of the finished boxart and the (unfinished) figure inside the tray. It's pathetic. The figure will come out when.. whenever. It's already too late for HLpro to save their reputation. Maybe I'll like the figure (hell, I'll even be biased since I liked Uchu Enban Daisenso) but it's just taking forever. That's the problem. And this is just Metaltech #05. It's only the fifth installment in the line Also, what happened to their.. diecast Astroganger? Weren't they making one?
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