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Post by bader on Oct 1, 2015 18:49:20 GMT -5
They all the same color to me. in the first pic you can see the right wing with different color. but that's just because the lights.
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Oct 1, 2015 20:52:40 GMT -5
Wow not even close to how bad mine are. Yours look great!
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Post by bader on Oct 2, 2015 15:45:42 GMT -5
Can you return it?
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Oct 2, 2015 21:16:15 GMT -5
Yes. I have to put the RMA in with Amazon. But I am going to actually call them on this one rather than just process it on the computer/app. I am a little upset because this was so so and they damaged a second item that shipped separately. So will be better to deal with a rep on this one. Will do it tomorrow afternoon.
Bummed because I honestly like this little guy.
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Post by bader on Oct 2, 2015 21:44:23 GMT -5
He looks great yes. and if he's your fav among all the src robots then at least you deserve a clean copy like the others. let us know and good luck!!
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Oct 2, 2015 21:51:08 GMT -5
He's actually the only SRC I own (or am going to own) unless God Marz comes out. I handled some of the early ones (and I think the pre-SRC ones as well) and didn't like them.
I have original popy DX Godsigma though and love the design. So for the discount I had to get one of these.
I'll definitely keep you guys updated.
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Post by faelon on Oct 4, 2015 19:22:24 GMT -5
He's actually the only SRC I own (or am going to own) unless God Marz comes out. I handled some of the early ones (and I think the pre-SRC ones as well) and didn't like them. I have original popy DX Godsigma though and love the design. So for the discount I had to get one of these. I'll definitely keep you guys updated. Oh man, don't let your experiences with this guy turn you off from the SRC's. While some can be a mixed bag, some of them are amazing. If you like the big bots like God Sigma and God Mars, I would strongly suggest getting your hands on the 5 Super Sentai bots that Bandai has released as SRC's. The Daizyujin (Power Rangers Megazord) is one of the finest crafted gokin I have ever laid hands on. The movement and articulation is so good, mixed with a perfect sculpt. (It makes me really wish for a full blown SOC transforming version). The DekaRanger Robo (Power Rangers SPD Megazord) would be the runner up for top slot. Both stand a head taller than god Sigma and have substantially more metal. Plus some better jointing on the legs and feet.
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Oct 5, 2015 1:10:51 GMT -5
Oh no it's not the experience with this one. I actually love this one and look forward to my replacement. I'm just saying that before this one came out, I honestly was never thrilled with the line. The Dino megazord is great though, my brother has it.
It's just the previous figures and such I was never that into them.
I'd buy biorobo in a heartbeat if they made one though!
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Oct 5, 2015 12:56:30 GMT -5
Return processed, replacement is on its way to me. Cross your fingers!!
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 5, 2015 22:35:54 GMT -5
Oh no it's not the experience with this one. I actually love this one and look forward to my replacement. I'm just saying that before this one came out, I honestly was never thrilled with the line. The Dino megazord is great though, my brother has it. It's just the previous figures and such I was never that into them. I'd buy biorobo in a heartbeat if they made one though! i have around 11 SRC and im planing to get 4 or 3 hopefully i wasn't thrilled about the line like you but after owning some i can say its great value for money most of the SRC have decent amount of diecast an awesome articulation and great sculpt not to mention the great accessories GodSigma didn't get enough justice in this release but still a decent figure over all mean while if you look at it i see the SRC anime color Grendizer is the best anime accurate Grendizer ever made
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Oct 7, 2015 17:29:56 GMT -5
What the hell?!?!
I just got my replacement. Item box was fine.
Now instead of half my wings being discolored, all of them are uniformly discolored.
I'll get pics posted after dinner. Need some advice guys, I'm getting pissed.
Maybe I will just paint these?
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Post by treatment on Oct 24, 2015 0:23:23 GMT -5
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Post by faelon on Oct 28, 2015 20:14:35 GMT -5
What the hell?!?! I just got my replacement. Item box was fine. Now instead of half my wings being discolored, all of them are uniformly discolored. I'll get pics posted after dinner. Need some advice guys, I'm getting pissed. Maybe I will just paint these? "Uniformly discolored"? So they are all the same color? I'm sorry. I don't mean to be flippant. It's just your quest for some degree of color accuracy may not actually be feasible depending on the technology Bandai is using. I also collect and mess with Lego and I see this debate/argument/rant pop up on Lego boards all the time. "Quality Control is slipping! It's horrible! In the old days every single brick used to be exactly the same color, but these days I can see variations in the red and blues etc! This is disgraceful!" What the old timers don't fully appreciate is the slight and almost unnoticeable variations in the Plastic color comes from new production technology. Up until 3-5 years ago the Injection Molding Toymakers used to have to but pre colored plastic pellets. Largely from companies such as Bayer. The color control between batches was near perfect. All yellows could be maintained perfectly the same. The downside was you had to fully change out the production line for each color shot and you were limited in your total storage capacity. Plastic Pellets take up a lot of space and toymakers typically only have so many silo's available. So the pallet available would be limited. But about 5 years ago some new technology was introduced. Now instead of using precolored ABS pellets, they use a single neutral color plastic pellet for all, but they can now inject dye into the process on the factory floor. This allows them to change colors on the fly, and use a much broader range of colors. So in the case of Lego they can now use more colors per set or product line. It is a much more efficient process with clear benefits to both the company and the ultimate end user. But the process does have some trade offs. The color matching is no longer the 100% that it once was. It drops to maybe a 98-99% with some miniscule variation. Most people will typically only ever see this under extremely strong light while they are specifically looking for it. Bandai is one of the, if not THE most advanced injection molded plastic manufacturer in the world. The only other outfit that competes with them in this regard is Lego. They do use this system and have been using it for a few years now with their Plastic Model lines. it's likely that this is what you are seeing in those parts.
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Oct 28, 2015 20:35:08 GMT -5
I will clarify. If you look at the SRC godsigma wings they are made of 4 pieces - 2 wings with two halves each. Then the wing tip (for when the sword handle is not used) is one piece with two halves.
Add to that the problem that each wing/tip half has a unique pattern, so you can't split/flip/swap them in any way if there's a problem.
I sent two godsigmas back to Amazon because the half pieces on opposite sides were 2-4 different shades of red. One front half was really bright. The back of that was darker dusty red. The other wing front half was the dusty red, and the back half was even darker, almost a greying or tanned red.
The wingtip front half was dark red so it didn't match with the bright red front half wing and the back of the wingtip was bright red. It looked like patchwork.
I don't know if the wings were heat damaged when curing at the factory/in storage at amazon, the dye was bad, or the colored pellets (I am familiar with the ones toy companies use) were a bad dye batch?
The second godsigma was almost as bad. Basically the toy looked like it had been cobbled together with wings of different shades of red. And it's extremely noticeable even when not up close.
I have pics of all of them, got to get them hosted and upload.
The third figure has more uniform red wings and tip overall but they are all a dull, dreary red.
My issue is that the wings on everyone else's SRC godsigma (those who have posted real pics in THIS thread of ones they bought from other retailers - not bandai press photos) are bright red and of a uniform shade - just like a vintage DX godsigma or golion/Voltron wing is, for example.
And mine basically look like sh*t. They have no "pop" and look like they left the figure unfinished in those spots.
I thought I was crazy but go back and look at the users photos in this thread or the pic of the wing pack alone in the CDX review and none of mine look anything like the wings in those pictures.
They look weird enough that I'm actually considering figuring out how to paint them and keep them tight enough so they don't move and there isn't any paint rub damage.
Does that make a little more sense?
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Post by faelon on Oct 28, 2015 20:46:50 GMT -5
What I'm saying is the level of color quality you are expecting likely does not exist in the current production methods. They don't use colored pellets anymore. So it is no longer a matter of "batch". They use a neutral color pellet. When the plastic is melted and piped through the factory the dye is injected in real time as it is needed. They are literally printing the color onto or into the plastic as they need it. Depending on how the dye flows into the system, or even in minor variations in dye batches you may seem some slight color variations from shot to shot. This is not a production defect. Nor is it a QC issue. It's simply how the production technology works now. They made a trade off of 100% absolute color quality over time for a more flexible and efficient system that lets them print any color they need on the fly with a slight sacrifice of part to part color consistency. In my experience the color variations are normally most noticeable in Bright Reds (which are always classically a problem in production. From what I understand red dyes are flaky as hell), Bright Yellows, and some shades of medium blues.
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Post by ancer on Nov 5, 2015 9:39:36 GMT -5
Finally got one one these. Cute figure... needed to be taller.
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Nov 5, 2015 10:42:03 GMT -5
I was pretty happy with the proportions overall but if the whole figure was scaled up one more inch to get uniform height and thickness all around, I think it would look as good as the Dino megazord from this line.
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Post by jaylive on Nov 5, 2015 13:49:21 GMT -5
if the whole line was the same scale as mazinkaiser it would be perfect for me.
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Post by ancer on Nov 7, 2015 7:36:07 GMT -5
if the whole line was the same scale as mazinkaiser it would be perfect for me. that'd be great but then they'd all be about $90+. I prefer the $50-$60 range or less
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Post by faelon on Dec 14, 2015 13:49:38 GMT -5
Just a heads up. HLJ has the SRC GodSigma on sale this week for $21 US. (Plus shipping). While opinions on this figure are mixed to negative at its original grossly overpriced MSRP. At $21 it is easily one of the best figures in your collection.
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