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Post by B- on Jun 20, 2015 18:17:48 GMT -5
remember wikipedia is written by anyone with a computer.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Jun 20, 2015 18:31:03 GMT -5
I do know one thing, guys. The belt on the Jet Scrander always looked white-er than Mazinger's limbs. Even though they looked pretty much white, they were in fact of a very light shade of grey. We also have to keep in mind that the original series aired in the early 70's. The art team had, by today's standards, very limited tools and equipment at their disposal. That also means, limited selection of colours. You know how, for instance, shadows in the old anime looked like crap? Well, apply that logic to Maz's limbs. There you go, either they were painted with that light grey (could be) or they were in fact unpainted chogokin sections. Now, I don't know what colour Japanium is, could be shiny chrome-like or more akin to silver in appearance, but I'm 99% sure that it's some kind of grey. And if you want to believe otherwise, hey that's your choice, be happy with your plaid-pattern Mazinger Z guys joking, joking..
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jun 20, 2015 19:17:35 GMT -5
"but, but, you started" .... lol do you have any links to what the original Designers intended for the colors to be, since you're disregarding wiki? usually if your argument is to denounce something, you provide evidence of your own to further your cause. Apply that to yourself then. I am growing tired of folks who like to counter comments just because. I'm gonna do like Baron and change your name to "This post is hidden". That way I don't have to even see your dumb posts anymore. }D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jun 20, 2015 19:29:02 GMT -5
I do know one thing, guys. The belt on the Jet Scrander always looked white-er than Mazinger's limbs. Even though they looked pretty much white, they were in fact of a very light shade of grey. We also have to keep in mind that the original series aired in the early 70's. The art team had, by today's standards, very limited tools and equipment at their disposal. That also means, limited selection of colours. You know how, for instance, shadows in the old anime looked like crap? Well, apply that logic to Maz's limbs. There you go, either they were painted with that light grey (could be) or they were in fact unpainted chogokin sections. Now, I don't know what colour Japanium is, could be shiny chrome-like or more akin to silver in appearance, but I'm 99% sure that it's some kind of grey. And if you want to believe otherwise, hey that's your choice, be happy with your plaid-pattern Mazinger Z guys joking, joking.. Yes, and as a matter of fact, in the OVA, Mazinger's limbs were clearly light grey. Now, what I never agree with is when folks come out stating that the limbs were chrome or even silver. It just does not match the anime at all. Their excuse is that back in the 1970's, artist could not get silver done right so they used white. Well, what happened in Shin Mazinger, or even in the Mazinkaiser OVA, or even Getter Robot new OVAs then? Those are fairly modern anime, and the robots that had white in them, still were painted white. So, get over it folks. Besides, like I said, these robots would look stupid if they had painted parts (black, blue, red, yellow, etc) and then unpainted "metal" parts. Common sense... it is free. }D
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Post by S_Gokin on Jun 20, 2015 20:02:52 GMT -5
guys guys its a matter of personal taste some of you like pizza others like burgers no need to go personal in this matter you just collect what you like its you collection not any one else for me i find the figure look more real when they give it have gray or silver limbs i dont like chrome honestly unless if its on weapons on swords and some robots colors wont mix with gray or silver like the SOC GX-43 Daimos, thats why they give it a blueish white color not every robot could have that white, and with the upcoming SRC Grendizer we are going to have a legit comparison but even then it will be about your personal taste
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Post by chachipower on Jun 20, 2015 21:56:26 GMT -5
I think for me it started with voltron. I would see the legs on tv that were white and then the toy would be chrome so I associate white as being silver/chrome. Plus wouldnt popy have made the legs white on the original mazinger chogokin? I would think Go Nagai would have said hey, the legs are supposed to be white. I have no clue why Reideen is the only one that looks fine to me. I dont associate his white with chrome...wierd. I disagree on the white for chrome in the anime. When white is used in a robot, it looks a little different than the white used in a sword. Also, why give the robots other colors like black, blue, red, green, yellow, but leave parts of it chrome or silver? Doesn't mix aesthetically. }D
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Post by B- on Jun 20, 2015 23:42:04 GMT -5
guys guys its a matter of personal taste some of you like pizza others like burgers no need to go personal in this matter you just collect what you like its you collection not any one else for me i find the figure look more real when they give it have gray or silver limbs i dont like chrome honestly unless if its on weapons on swords and some robots colors wont mix with gray or silver like the SOC GX-43 Daimos, thats why they give it a blueish white color not every robot could have that white, and with the upcoming SRC Grendizer we are going to have a legit comparison but even then it will be about your personal taste what you buy is about personal taste but what is in the anime is just one way there is not 2 answers cuz two people see the color differently.that famous shot of getter great and grendy from the filmillustrates it perfectly you can see Getter has white limbs...it's easier to see when comparing more than one SR of Nagais together in same shot... Just an observation
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Post by B- on Jun 20, 2015 23:46:07 GMT -5
For the record I LOVE white limbs as it makes the other colors stand out and color and simplistic style is what 70s SRs are about ! mainly why I hate modern robots and the god awful movie transformers they are complicated and the colors are very depressing.If classic SRs were all silver I probably would never have gravitated toward them as a child.Certain colors look good against white and grey others don't Ever wonder why the purple maInlaiser is so ugly? Purple just doesn't go with white that's why so much red yellow and blue ! Very little green purple they just are not heroic colors and don't do well with white for me anyhow.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jun 21, 2015 1:07:06 GMT -5
I think for me it started with voltron. I would see the legs on tv that were white and then the toy would be chrome so I associate white as being silver/chrome. Plus wouldnt popy have made the legs white on the original mazinger chogokin? I would think Go Nagai would have said hey, the legs are supposed to be white. I have no clue why Reideen is the only one that looks fine to me. I dont associate his white with chrome...wierd. I disagree on the white for chrome in the anime. When white is used in a robot, it looks a little different than the white used in a sword. Also, why give the robots other colors like black, blue, red, green, yellow, but leave parts of it chrome or silver? Doesn't mix aesthetically. }D Well, we can all agree that none of the popy chogokins were anime accurate. They were merely toys for children and to be played with. Leaving the limbs chrome showed they were metal and was a selling point. Remember "Chogokin" is a Mazinger Z term for its super alloy. The other super robot characters outside of Mazin World did not have "chogokin". Die cast is Gokin. I can see why some people prefer the chrome or silver, mainly because of the old figures. But like it was mentioned above, the colors shown in the anime are what they are. }D
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Post by S_Gokin on Jun 21, 2015 9:24:19 GMT -5
guys guys its a matter of personal taste some of you like pizza others like burgers no need to go personal in this matter you just collect what you like its you collection not any one else for me i find the figure look more real when they give it have gray or silver limbs i dont like chrome honestly unless if its on weapons on swords and some robots colors wont mix with gray or silver like the SOC GX-43 Daimos, thats why they give it a blueish white color not every robot could have that white, and with the upcoming SRC Grendizer we are going to have a legit comparison but even then it will be about your personal taste what you buy is about personal taste but what is in the anime is just one way there is not 2 answers cuz two people see the color differently.that famous shot of getter great and grendy from the filmillustrates it perfectly you can see Getter has white limbs...it's easier to see when comparing more than one SR of Nagais together in same shot... Just an observation right if you noticed theres robots in the both SOC and SRC with white limbs were giving same white limbs because they wont not look as good if they change it to silver or chrome same with the robots with white limbs and were giving chrome or silver they are trying to make them as anime accurate as they can with a realistic look and dont forget its a business so they are going to milk the same thing to the last drop chrome version, anime\manga version, spongebob version
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jun 21, 2015 11:12:40 GMT -5
Baron said it best; what is in the anime, and there's no two ways about it.
Raideen for example: Two SOC version - one anime accurate with White limbs, another not anime accurate but toy accurate with chrome limbs.
}D
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Jun 21, 2015 13:01:58 GMT -5
I have a feelin' this won't be the last time I'll see this old topic being discussed in the forums.. what's the big deal anyway. Buy what you like, that's the rule of thumb. And that "there's no two ways about it" doesn't really hold up, does it? Especially when talking about older shows, where changes from scene to scene were more common than in modern cartoons. Not necessarily color changes, but proportion changes? Happened a lot. Some parts of the robot slightly changing shape? Happened a lot as well. Just buy what pleases you eyes, you don't need to explain WHY you like what you like in so much detail it mostly comes down to personal preferences anyway. Or only to personal preferences. If you start talking about "I like it cause it looks anime-accurate" get ready to be contested by someone who doesn't think the way you do, or has a different idea of what anime-accurate means. It happens time and time again..
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jun 21, 2015 13:40:39 GMT -5
I have a feelin' this won't be the last time I'll see this old topic being discussed in the forums.. what's the big deal anyway. Buy what you like, that's the rule of thumb. And that "there's no two ways about it" doesn't really hold up, does it? Especially when talking about older shows, where changes from scene to scene were more common than in modern cartoons. Not necessarily color changes, but proportion changes? Happened a lot. Some parts of the robot slightly changing shape? Happened a lot as well. Just buy what pleases you eyes, you don't need to explain WHY you like what you like in so much detail it mostly comes down to personal preferences anyway. Or only to personal preferences. If you start talking about "I like it cause it looks anime-accurate" get ready to be contested by someone who doesn't think the way you do, or has a different idea of what anime-accurate means. It happens time and time again.. Okay, there is no two ways about colors. White is white. what is so difficult to understand about that? I don't care if the thing was meant to be panty-white in the creators mind. When it was colored, it was colored white. What do personal preferences have to do with the actual colors used in the anime cells? The colors used are the colors used. Anime accurate colors mean the same colors used in the anime, right? Otherwise is a misleading statement. I don't know if there is something lost in translation here, or folks being dense just for the fun of it. This is not about what does anyone think or prefer. It is about figures painted with the same colors used to paint the anime cells. I totally agree that everyone has their opinions and preferences, and that is undebatable. But to me, when folks start debating the undebatable just for the sake of debating, it becomes a waste of time... like watching paint dry. }|
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Jun 21, 2015 13:57:57 GMT -5
Ok are we.. are we still talking about Mazinger Z's limbs? I hope we're not.
This is an HL Pro Z Mazinger thread anyway, I suggest we end this discussion here.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jun 21, 2015 14:04:16 GMT -5
Ok are we.. are we still talking about Mazinger Z's limbs? I hope we're not. This is an HL Pro Z Mazinger thread anyway, I suggest we end this discussion here. I have no idea how it got derailed, but by now, at least me, I'm talking about ALL characters colors - ALL characters figures. It may be a little different with Z Mazinger, since it never had an anime, and the manga covers vary. }D
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Post by B- on Jun 21, 2015 14:52:29 GMT -5
Whether white is supposed to be silver or not it's Still white!! When figures are made with white limbs they are made to look as if they came out of the screen period.We are talking about emulating the exact thing seen in the show.Would you prefer a tweety bird toy with actual feathers? no because you want it to represent the actual cartoon! not a real bird!
I don't care how it's supposed to look.. Think of this Movie transformer toys are made to look like real robots because it's film! The cartoon transformers should look like just that cartoons! Same with SRs for me anyhow ...I want the color I SEE that is anime accuracy! Not chrome or gunmetal !
I don't want film or world realism in a toy I want the closest look to the anime especially color wise! that is what it is in a nutshell.those who want realism don't want anime accuracy as it's not the same.whatever you want to call the color white in the end it's white! Or light grey. Not another color it represents that's silly. Anime accuracy is the closest in a toy to what you are seeing on screen not the real interpretation that is not accuracy.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jun 21, 2015 16:41:38 GMT -5
EXACTLY!!! Thank you Baron! I was starting to think I was typing in Russian or something... }D
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Post by Gettershadow on Jun 21, 2015 21:17:10 GMT -5
ok.. but happens if HALF the time the "white" actually light blue? What color is it REALLY? heh
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jun 21, 2015 23:35:02 GMT -5
ok.. but happens if HALF the time the "white" actually light blue? What color is it REALLY? heh Any color shown in the actual anime is definitely anime accurate. Any color NOT shown in the anime, is definitely NOT anime accurate. }D
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Post by Gettershadow on Jun 22, 2015 10:04:26 GMT -5
ok, that's fair..
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