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Post by S_Gokin on May 21, 2016 20:56:07 GMT -5
come on guys , one bad project wont kill the SOC line, also the SRC Mazinger repaints will cover up any lost and help fund other projects i really hope they will announce something tomorrow/today for the SOC if not we can go back to whatever we were hunting
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Post by Gold on May 21, 2016 23:31:34 GMT -5
Actually it sold well I think, that's why they made a second run when Goldy Marg came out. I think it was the second run that sort of over stocked the market. Plus considering how these things take a year to release from blueprint to final product, I don't think the possible low sales of GGG alone did it in. I guess it's just possible Bandai doesn't want to do super high end diecast figures anymore due to high costs? I hope it's not so though but the writing does seem to be appearing on the wall.
Gold
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Post by wartaker on May 22, 2016 8:41:07 GMT -5
It all returns to nothing, it all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down, it all returns to nothing, I just keep letting me down, letting me down, letting me down,
Their release schedule now up to November without new SOC. Any miracle on December?
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Post by Gold on May 23, 2016 10:23:12 GMT -5
I think the DX Macross VF1J might be December? Not sure since there's no news about it.
Gold
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Post by faelon on May 23, 2016 11:25:46 GMT -5
Yamato 1/24 Patlabors were awesome, sadly Yamato is no longer exist.... I also wonder how well/bad the SOC Brave GGG sell. That could end the SOC line. The SoC GGG is still in-stock at alot of vendors...so, FWIW, it does not seem to be as great of a seller as Bandai had hoped? Guys, GGG went back for another production run. What's on shelves now is restock from that run. GGG likely sold better than expected. Hence why we got Goldy and the Star option set as well. (Now it can reasonably be argued Goldy has sold poorly)
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Post by Yumcha on May 23, 2016 11:33:53 GMT -5
I think the DX Macross VF1J might be December? Not sure since there's no news about it. Gold Take its time, please. I'm going broke.
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Post by faelon on May 23, 2016 11:36:43 GMT -5
im sorry what does real robot mean? There are a few sub categories of "Japanese Robots" somewhat differentiated by time period, styling and nature of story. Super Robots - generally unique piloted robots. One of a kind lone Heroes. Mazinger, Grendizer, etc. mostly what we view as the classics. More modern variants would include Ideon, Big O, Raxzephon (sp?) the Sentai mecha etc. Real Robots - a more modern concept that began in the late 70's with Mobile Suit Gundam. Robots as mass produced combat or utility machines. The uniqueness is in the pilot or characters. Generally the designs have a more real world military aesthetic. Less rounded etc. gundam, Macross, Patlabor, the majority of the more Modern Robots. The robot is more akin to a military fighter or tank then a unique hero craft. Bandai finds the two groups have slightly divergent fan bases and spending habits. After the EVS SOC's they split the real robots off into the Soul SPEC line. Plus they feature prominently in the Robot Spirits line.
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Post by S_Gokin on May 24, 2016 7:04:49 GMT -5
i also dont think Bandai is doing bad financially, its just milking the same sculpt with different paint and that new paint could be from a pre-production samples we didn't see, so its win win win for them honestly i dont know why they dont want to invest in a new high end SOC, i know it will take research, planing time and many samples until they achieve their quality standers but im sure it will worth it maybe they got the wrong idea that the majority of the collectors are more interested in repaints and affordable figures than the high end ones, which is very wrong
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Post by faelon on May 24, 2016 10:55:40 GMT -5
i also dont think Bandai is doing bad financially, its just milking the same sculpt with different paint and that new paint could be from a pre-production samples we didn't see, so its win win win for them honestly i dont know why they dont want to invest in a new high end SOC, i know it will take research, planing time and many samples until they achieve their quality standers but im sure it will worth it maybe they got the wrong idea that the majority of the collectors are more interested in repaints and affordable figures than the high end ones, which is very wrong Bandai doesn't seem to be doing bad. They do seem to be trimming back risk a bit, which makes sense given how forward looking economics look at the moment. SOC's are a weird product line. They are an adult collector targeted high end specialty market. A number of other toy makers have similar lines. Takara's Masterpiece Transformers. Lego's UCS line etc. these constitute a nice to have business base. But they aren't the bread and butter product lines that keep the lights on and the workers fed. Those are the straight up retail targeted stuff. Such as Robot Spirits and SHFA. Those lines are locked into retail seasons and cycles. As such they get priority for the true finite resources Factory Time. Things like SOC's exist outside the retail calendar or schedule. There really is no Christmas rush for them or similar. The well funded adult fans of them buy them when they come out. So they get squeezed into production when they can. They can also be technically complex and financially risky. So they will limit risk by not doing too many annually. Finally that adult collectors market has a tendency to implode with over saturation. So as a business strategy they want to limit the number of releases. At about 3 per year most fans will buy all. Past that they start to shed buyers for all offerings. And this applies to all such adult offerings. (Maybe a few more if price point is lower). And finally factor into that 3-4 per year, a need or desire to maximize existing tooling through some reissues. The he end result is what we see. They will be announced when they get announced. On a somewhat random schedule.
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Post by bader on May 24, 2016 14:29:23 GMT -5
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Post by faelon on May 24, 2016 18:31:27 GMT -5
Ok those Patlabor figs just made my week.
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Post by S_Gokin on May 25, 2016 8:02:28 GMT -5
ok but they don't even do reissue as they used to do, we get like 1 SOC and 1 reissue per year which is very slow if they reissue more it will kinda make up of it the scrander wings on Mazinger z Jeeg repaint are see through cool touch but still a pass
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Post by Philo Beddoe on May 25, 2016 22:54:58 GMT -5
Great, Bandai will make major announcements for wallet busting awesome products as the Yen to Dollar exchange rate plummets to lows seen only a few years ago.
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Post by S_Gokin on May 26, 2016 9:55:36 GMT -5
on the bright side i can spend the money i was saving for the next SOC on something else
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Post by gravewolf on May 28, 2016 1:43:19 GMT -5
Wish they'd made these patlabors into src's. But I'll still check them out when they release these ingrams. Also a helldiver labor would have been good to add to the lineup.
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Post by mecha-mania on May 28, 2016 3:21:43 GMT -5
so does that mean we are getting a patlabor as the next SOC or is it still a mystery? if its a patlabor, then its definitly money saved for me.
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Post by faelon on May 28, 2016 20:45:24 GMT -5
The Patlobors are Robot Spirits. No word yet on SOC.
For those actually counting, the past year of SOC has included 2 re-issue/reprints. Voltes V and Gunbuster, Goldymarg and Great Maz DX, and the GGG Star Option parts. We already have a Daltainius reissue announced. I council patience.
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Post by mecha-mania on Jun 1, 2016 10:13:22 GMT -5
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Post by faelon on Jun 1, 2016 15:17:48 GMT -5
Oh gods. That Jeeg colored Maz is more than a bit over the top loud. It makes the Hello Kitty Maz seem tame and conservative.
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