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Post by tturbozx66 on Mar 8, 2017 1:10:58 GMT -5
Will wait for a proper review. If sentinel ever decides to incorporate ratchets into this then I may be in. Dancouga and hulkbuster could have really benefited from some ratchets. To date, only their Bellerophon has ratchets and that is a top notch figure, although I think sentinel may only be the distributor for it. Actually no; Ratchets limit poseability (due to having only where the ratchet spaces let you go) and have tendencies to wear out or just plain break over time (too weak/too strong.) Ball joints provide optimum posability without the worry and frustration of the two aforementioned problems. Neither my Dancougas or Hulkbuster have poor joints and have amazing articulation. It's heaven. I honestly hope Sen-ti-nel never incorporates them. And Sentinel did in fact produce the Bellerophon. Buy what you like as they say. The Bellerophon is proof to me that larger diecast figures benefit greatly from ratchets. I love articulation as much as the next guy but I don't need my larger diecast figures doing floppy yoga poses. I never have proper ratchets (spring tension), give out on me. However, i have plenty of ball joints and pin jointed joints going loose and needing future or nail polish to rectify the problem. My dancouga has a floppy waist and likes to do the spreads. My Hulkbuster can't stand on its own. I am afraid to do extreme poses on both my ultraman and giant Gorg for fear of the joints going loose. I hoped they do incorporate ratcheted joints where it is needed.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Mar 8, 2017 1:46:31 GMT -5
Actually no; Ratchets limit poseability (due to having only where the ratchet spaces let you go) and have tendencies to wear out or just plain break over time (too weak/too strong.) Ball joints provide optimum posability without the worry and frustration of the two aforementioned problems. Neither my Dancougas or Hulkbuster have poor joints and have amazing articulation. It's heaven. I honestly hope Sen-ti-nel never incorporates them. And Sentinel did in fact produce the Bellerophon. Buy what you like as they say. I do. I actually own the Bellerophon, Dancouga, etc. and that's why I stated that the Dancouga does not have floppy joints while having optimal posability, etc. etc... and no, no future was needed. This isn't some random Transformers toy you're referring to here. And I guess with that being said, at least there's a FIX to balljoints having loose friction whereas once ratchets grind down or break, you're generally SOL. Even with the products you're stating you own you're saying you fear the joints going loose rather than that they have (which is good as I don't wish your products go bad on you.) It's weird that you mention the splits, because the majority of the time I have that problem is with ratcheted thighs with too much space between the clicks.
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Post by Coldbreakar on Mar 8, 2017 6:49:08 GMT -5
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Post by grayson on Mar 8, 2017 12:57:49 GMT -5
That's $27 less than HLJ, I wonder how much their shipping costs differ.
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Post by Coldbreakar on Mar 8, 2017 16:54:03 GMT -5
That's $27 less than HLJ, I wonder how much their shipping costs differ. Based on the shipping cost to my country (KSA) will be 8,450¥ AirMail that's total of 42,730¥.
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Post by grayson on Mar 8, 2017 16:57:10 GMT -5
That's $27 less than HLJ, I wonder how much their shipping costs differ. Based on the shipping cost to my country (KSA) will be 8,450¥ AirMail total of 42,730¥ Okay, suspicion confirmed, you may pay a little more at HLJ but their shipping seems to be way better priced than others. All in all seems to come out about even or slightly better in HLJ's favor.
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Post by grayson on Mar 8, 2017 16:58:00 GMT -5
But stick with whoever you have the most store credit built up with, for me it's HLJ and AmiAmi.
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Post by Coldbreakar on Mar 8, 2017 17:17:35 GMT -5
I have most of them in AmiAmi, the reason I've Pre-Ord from NY is to avoid the customs in my country, I'm sure S_Gokin shared his experience with them sometime ago. Sorry S_Gokin for remembering a bad memory of them.
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Post by faelon on Mar 9, 2017 1:01:48 GMT -5
Buy what you like as they say. I do. I actually own the Bellerophon, Dancouga, etc. and that's why I stated that the Dancouga does not have floppy joints while having optimal posability, etc. etc... and no, no future was needed. This isn't some random Transformers toy you're referring to here. And I guess with that being said, at least there's a FIX to balljoints having loose friction whereas once ratchets grind down or break, you're generally SOL. Even with the products you're stating you own you're saying you fear the joints going loose rather than that they have (which is good as I don't wish your products go bad on you.) It's weird that you mention the splits, because the majority of the time I have that problem is with ratcheted thighs with too much space between the clicks. I think you are both right. But it will depend heavily on What you are looking for in the robot, and How much weight the robot is carrying. Ratchets have some downsides, but their benefit is in making a heavier robot much more stable. And it takes quite a lot to wear out or break a modern metal ratchet joint on these things. The ball joints will give you a smoother more analog range of motion. For someone for whom subltey of posing is the main goal they will be preferable. But I find they do wear or loosen faster than ratchets at least at main load bearing points. and your ability to fix them can vary depending on the fig. Where and when to use each is all about the load bearing needed. You want as much range of motion and flexibility of posing as you can get. But nobody wants a floppy robot. Personally I tend to think that once you get up past ~8" in a die cast robot you probably do want some form of soft ratchet in the hip or knees just to help balance and support the weight load, in most cases. With the knees being the most common point where straight up friction joints will soften. This of course assumes they are using quality metal fine toothed ratchets. Plastic or overly gappy ratchets are the worst. At the end of the day what we want is the robot's leg to hold the pose we put them in and carry it's own weight, preferably without a stand. And that it be able to fully hold and pose with its weapons without the arms dropping or the weight shifting. The big test for what Sen-Ti-Nel can and cannot do with Ball joints and whether they need to use ratchets will likely be Gravion.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Mar 9, 2017 1:04:35 GMT -5
This is random, but I'd love to see their take on Blue Jet.
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Post by faelon on Mar 9, 2017 1:09:00 GMT -5
This is random, but I'd love to see their take on Blue Jet. That's the Machine Robo robot that is not in any way shape or form Blue, correct?
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Mar 9, 2017 1:16:05 GMT -5
This is random, but I'd love to see their take on Blue Jet. That's the Machine Robo robot that is not in any way shape or form Blue, correct? There are plenty of mecha from the Machine Robo series that aren't blue in color. You're using internet to view this forum and you could have used the same to Google "Machine Robo Blue Jet." ----------------------------------------------- Does anyone know if there was a sized anounced for the EX Gokin R-Jetta? Wondering how it will scale with these and can't find anything online.
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Post by Coldbreakar on Mar 9, 2017 5:29:35 GMT -5
Size comparison with Sentinel Dancouga.
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Post by nikodiablo on Mar 9, 2017 8:59:40 GMT -5
That's the Machine Robo robot that is not in any way shape or form Blue, correct? There are plenty of mecha from the Machine Robo series that aren't blue in color. You're using internet to view this forum and you could have used the same to Google "Machine Robo Blue Jet." ----------------------------------------------- Does anyone know if there was a sized anounced for the EX Gokin R-Jetta? Wondering how it will scale with these and can't find anything online. TJ, I think Faelon is making a joke Well, I'm all in. No backing away. I've paid PO to my local supplier. We now play the waiting game.
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Post by musha on Mar 10, 2017 12:07:23 GMT -5
[quote author=" faelon " source="/post/384171/thread" timestamp="1488571709" I looks like a nice robot. But dear god what was Sentinel thinking letting those prototype (I really really hope early prototype) Ram Stol pics hit the public. What did they paint the figure with? Rattle cans bought from Home Depot? (The cheap stuff!). It's one thing if it was an early demo shown off behind glass at a toy fair. But they used that figure for high res marketing photos that they distributed to merchants? Wow... Honestly, it doesn't have the fit and finish of a production sample, but it doesn't look nearly as bad as you wrote here. I first read this comment on a phone and then got on my computer to look more closely just to make sure. When I think slop job paints I think the samples that Hasbro would have at Botcon and whatnot. This is straight up one of the BEST hand-painted prototypes I've ever seen. [/quote]
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Post by nikodiablo on Mar 13, 2017 21:06:29 GMT -5
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Post by tjdetweiler on Mar 19, 2017 21:23:29 GMT -5
No plans of getting Baikanfu..but that metallic red is beautiful!
After owning a sentinel dancouga..i now know why the prices are quite up there for sentinel figures.
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Post by Coldbreakar on Mar 27, 2017 5:38:33 GMT -5
Baikanfu prototype review.
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Post by inebriatedgnome on Mar 28, 2017 4:09:46 GMT -5
This looks absurdly good. I've held off Sentinel's other huge gokin but I think I'm in for this.
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Post by nikodiablo on Jun 6, 2017 1:19:53 GMT -5
Thanks nikodiable! I'm starting to become more and more interested in this character. I think I'll preorder and make my mind up later just to be on the safe side. No sweat Bigfire! You should find video review of Sentinel's recent figures to gauge what their Baikanfu's quality will turn to be.
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