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Post by coul567 on Mar 25, 2017 9:38:02 GMT -5
Although I love the sculpt, there has been something bugging me ever since I layed my eyes on it. The neck of the Soc isnt as prominent as the aoshima's or the Yujin perfect versions, which is something I would've loved if Bandai did extend the neck just a bit. I know its probably for articulation purposes but its a bit to skinny and tucked imo
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Post by greengetterguy on Mar 25, 2017 10:30:25 GMT -5
Now you mentioned it, yeah it does make me want to pull it out alittle.
Hopefully its like the case with Voltron... Including myself and Bandai staff and photographers, Many didnt know the pull out neck joint on the Black Lion.
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Post by TaurusOxford on Mar 25, 2017 18:43:15 GMT -5
There're just too many wrongs in this Mazinkaiser. What a disappointment. Maybe i'm just not picky enough to be a true Chogokin fan but what are the wrongs, cause i'm liking what I see.
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Post by ninjahandz on Mar 25, 2017 18:46:13 GMT -5
what do you mean? list the wrongs
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Post by Mr. Roboto on Mar 25, 2017 22:30:03 GMT -5
Wow definitely going to get this SOC Mazinkaiser. It will be my 2nd Mazinkaiser figure. Anybody can guess when the pre order is gonna be opened?
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Post by mpchi on Mar 25, 2017 23:12:11 GMT -5
First off, the eye brow part is too long which also makes the head crown part too tall giving it a dorky look. reminds me of this guy Which also makes its head a bit out of size especially with that short neck. And the black highlights on the eye brow is too big, way too big. Not only that, it has bulged outward which supposed to go inward. Here's a comparison shot with other Mazinkaiser toys. Do you see my point? Now move on to the body, this Mazinkaiser is just too skinny. When Keiichi Sato redesigned Mazinkaiser for the anime, he put the most emphasis on its massiveness, giving it a body builder like build with its thick limbs and huge abs. And when realised by Kenji Hayama the lead art for mechs, it's got very slick and stylish look while retaining some of the 70s vibes to it. One of the most appealing part is its huge arms and very thick wrists. (which Aoshima's got it absolutely wrong) Now let's compare SOC Mazinkaiser to the original concept art. Do you see what I mean? Even with its heavily refined design, the Sentinel's Mazinkaiser is closer to the original presentation. And what's with the hinges on the Scrander? They look plain ugly. I don't like the gold plated joints either. They don't match very well with the silvers. Last but not least, what the hell is this? At first I was think this SOC ain't so bad. You might be too picky on it. But your photo comparisons speak volumes. No wonder I didn't settle with this and want Sentinel's chrome version instead. The SOC head sculpt I have the most problem with.
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Post by faelon on Mar 26, 2017 1:29:00 GMT -5
First off, the eye brow part is too long which also makes the head crown part too tall giving it a dorky look. reminds me of this guy Which also makes its head a bit out of size especially with that short neck. And the black highlights on the eye brow is too big, way too big. Not only that, it has bulged outward which supposed to go inward. Here's a comparison shot with other Mazinkaiser toys. Do you see my point? Now move on to the body, this Mazinkaiser is just too skinny. When Keiichi Sato redesigned Mazinkaiser for the anime, he put the most emphasis on its massiveness, giving it a body builder like build with its thick limbs and huge abs. And when realised by Kenji Hayama the lead art for mechs, it's got very slick and stylish look while retaining some of the 70s vibes to it. One of the most appealing part is its huge arms and very thick wrists. (which Aoshima's got it absolutely wrong) Now let's compare SOC Mazinkaiser to the original concept art. Do you see what I mean? Even with its heavily refined design, the Sentinel's Mazinkaiser is closer to the original presentation. And what's with the hinges on the Scrander? They look plain ugly. I don't like the gold plated joints either. They don't match very well with the silvers. Last but not least, what the hell is this? I'm honestly not sure what you are complaining about? The SOC lines up much more with the concept art to my eye than the stylized Sentinel does. OK the forearms could be a little chunkier. I'll wait and see the finished product before passing judgement, but everything else in the body looks clean and very close to the design specs. I have no idea what you are actually looking for in this robot. Your complaints rather seem a bit trivial. If you don't like the SOC, don't buy one. If you prefer the sen-Ti-Nel stylized roid raging Kaiser, get that instead.
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Post by chogokinabdul on Mar 26, 2017 2:18:55 GMT -5
This is one of the better looking mazinkaisers out there but it is not Anime accurate for several reasons most of them are mentioned by Kaus above. I don't know why Bandai is not trying to give us an Anime accurate mazinkaiser ! The SRC was strange looking but a good toy ! the second attempt is this SOC which looks good but still not the anime version that we need! the short neck is one thing and the thin forearms is another problem but also the abdomen area is one of my problems with this version ! I prefer the abdomen of Aoshima mazinkaiser and feel that pays more attention to the anime design.
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Post by coul567 on Mar 26, 2017 2:45:45 GMT -5
Overall I think everyone likes this figure but for me and a few others, theres little details that add up that kind of throw this figure off. I personally like it but I grew up with Mazinkaiser and seeing my hero turned into an SOC, my expectations for this one were abnormally high. Again, as an SOC, theres absolutely nothing wrong with it but as a hardcore Mazinkaiser kid, I wanted Bandai to do better. I think aoshima pulled off the Mazinkaiser feel the best for me
Aoshima=Yujin > Sentinel > SOC > SRC in terms of Mazinkaiser the bulky tank feel
SOC > Sentinel > SRC > Yujin > Aoshima in terms of Mazinkaiser play value balanced with accuracy
I didn't include the max factory Mazinkaiser because that one was based off of the SRW version which is a whole different sculpt
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Post by chogokinabdul on Mar 26, 2017 2:58:47 GMT -5
Overall I think everyone likes this figure but for me and a few others, theres little details that add up that kind of throw this figure off. I personally like it but I grew up with Mazinkaiser and seeing my hero turned into an SOC, my expectations for this one were abnormally high. Again, as an SOC, theres absolutely nothing wrong with it but as a hardcore Mazinkaiser kid, I wanted Bandai to do better. I think aoshima pulled off the Mazinkaiser feel the best for me Aoshima=Yujin > Sentinel > SOC > SRC in terms of Mazinkaiser the bulky tank feel SOC > Sentinel > SRC > Yujin > Aoshima in terms of Mazinkaiser play value balanced with accuracy I didn't include the max factory Mazinkaiser because that one was based off of the SRW version which is a whole different sculpt I think you said it all man , I am with you on this ! are they planning a D.C. SOC Mazinkaiser?
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Post by eclipsevv on Mar 26, 2017 4:53:42 GMT -5
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Post by S_Gokin on Mar 26, 2017 11:56:24 GMT -5
for me personally i like it and it will be my 3rd Mazinkaiser
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Post by BIGFIRE on Mar 26, 2017 12:29:12 GMT -5
Kaus you're awesome man!
That took a lot of time and effort I'm sure and I want to thank you for it. I feel that your points are valid as evident by the pictures you presented.
With all the renditions of Mazinkaiser that we have IMO I think a lot of people are still going to get it. It's the first SOC one and they didn't get it quite right but it will do for now I guess. I'm sure they will stick us up for more money later LOL.
Again great work and much appreciated. I don't have all those and I definitely learned something. Thanks.
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Post by mpchi on Mar 26, 2017 13:08:23 GMT -5
Kaus you're awesome man! That took a lot of time and effort I'm sure and I want to thank you for it. I feel that your points are valid as evident by the pictures you presented. With all the renditions of Mazinkaiser that we have IMO I think a lot of people are still going to get it. It's the first SOC one and they didn't get it quite right but it will do for now I guess. I'm sure they will stick us up for more money later LOL. Again great work and much appreciated. I don't have all those and I definitely learned something. Thanks. Yeah the comparison sure helped. And it is OK to have different tastes on the designs. I am the kind of collector that try not to get multiple figures of the same character or robot, but rather choose the best that suits my taste. Sentinel's won this round for me on Mazinkaiser, when budget is not as much of a concern in my case. However, like many mentioned. Even this figure as a smaller non-transforming/combining SOC is get pricier. Might be their first that passed the 20000yen retail mark inthe SOC line.
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Post by greengetterguy on Mar 26, 2017 16:27:53 GMT -5
Im gonna try to save my money for Sentinel one for my birthday on September. Hopefully it will be around till then...
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Post by greengetterguy on Mar 26, 2017 22:45:39 GMT -5
I just watched the anime and yeah, Therere are definily enough inaccuracies to warrent a complaint. Its really a shame as it is almost 90 percent there....
Yes, The thick verticle "eye brows"( should be less pronounce), the neck( should be longer), the forearms ( should be bit bigger with thinner and more defined or taper off to wrist)....as of now, the wrist is too thick!!
Fix those three and it should be more palatable to some bros here.
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Post by faelon on Mar 26, 2017 22:49:50 GMT -5
Kaus you're awesome man! That took a lot of time and effort I'm sure and I want to thank you for it. I feel that your points are valid as evident by the pictures you presented. With all the renditions of Mazinkaiser that we have IMO I think a lot of people are still going to get it. It's the first SOC one and they didn't get it quite right but it will do for now I guess. I'm sure they will stick us up for more money later LOL. Again great work and much appreciated. I don't have all those and I definitely learned something. Thanks. Yeah the comparison sure helped. And it is OK to have different tastes on the designs. I am the kind of collector that try not to get multiple figures of the same character or robot, but rather choose the best that suits my taste. Sentinel's won this round for me on Mazinkaiser, when budget is not as much of a concern in my case. However, like many mentioned. Even this figure as a smaller non-transforming/combining SOC is get pricier. Might be their first that passed the 20000yen retail mark inthe SOC line. Cool! It's nice to see that I am not the only one that tries to limit the number of "variants" of a character. There has to be some major difference in engineering or story basis for me to get multiples of the same character. So far I've been content with the SRC and didn't get the Sentinel (not a huge fan of Stylized modernized takes on these things. I like some minor updates to make them feel a little more real, but not the wholesale revision versions. But that's just me.) Whether I get the SOC will depend heavily on price I think. What new or interesting does it bring to the table and does it do so at a reasonable price? Would it be the first to cross a $200 retail price for a non Transforming or Combining piece? I'm trying to remember? I mean technically the DX's count. But other than that the only other one that high I can think of was the Tetsujin 28 vs Black Ox set. Which was 2 robots. How much was Big O at MSRP? (oh right it was the stupid add on set that was $200!!!)
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Post by droutmaster on Mar 27, 2017 14:19:38 GMT -5
The comparisons done only seems to show that the SOC version is more accurate. Heck this kaiser is much more accurate than the aoshima or yujin at this point. Proportionally its much more on point than the sentinel or even the aoshima. The head black mark has been shown trough out the ova to be smaller or longer depending on the animation, so yes its just as accurate like it has been show on the movie.
However the only thing that i agree is about the expose joint on his waist but i assume is to allow the hip joint to extend futher out for more range. The scrander' s wing im not sure how they could make it better and still articulated as it should specially still looking clean, people hated the articulation joint on the SRC version so i guess bandai took it to heart about it.
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Post by Coldbreakar on Mar 29, 2017 1:27:22 GMT -5
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Post by treatment on Mar 29, 2017 1:55:52 GMT -5
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