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Post by shintitan on May 6, 2017 7:10:48 GMT -5
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Post by faelon on May 6, 2017 10:33:13 GMT -5
So $1000 to get the complete figure... and it's made of resin!?!? Oh Hells No!
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Post by S_Gokin on May 7, 2017 14:45:37 GMT -5
So $1000 to get the complete figure... and it's made of resin!?!? Oh Hells No! no no you are been polite its HELLS NO (with caps on) lol a $1000 for a figure ! in these days ! i wanna have whatever they are smoking lol
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Post by greengetterguy on May 7, 2017 15:28:17 GMT -5
Not even an ounce of metal....damn that!
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Post by faelon on May 7, 2017 23:41:08 GMT -5
"We're charging so much because its value is guaranteed to go up! It's made of materials that will deteriorate over time, so every day it will get rarer!" Uh huh... Nope! Nope! Nope!
For those unfamiliar with the stuff. Resin is an easily workable 2 part mixed plastic. It is often used for short run Hobby products because it can tolerate lower cost and flexible molds such as silicon. Most "Garage Kits" use resin. It's quality can vary wildly depending on the mix and quality of materials used. It can hold sharp crisp details. But unless it is incredibly well mixed, it will decay in some way over time. It will either outgas and grow brittle, or if not mixed right it it can start leeching chemicals such as unbonded hardening agent. And in many many cases it can and will warp as it settles over time. I have a number of Garage Kit models, spaceships and such. They look gorgeous, until about 5 years or so then they start to bow, sag or crumble, etc. Resin is ok for a fixed pose model such as a Gundam. Something that will be solidly glued together. And they you know how to reinforce with brass rod. But a resin articulated collectors robot? That's insane. Not the appropriate material for the job.
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Post by S_Gokin on May 8, 2017 2:10:17 GMT -5
regardless the materials it doesn't offer anything new to justify the price
man the best figure in our time which is the DX Mazinger, have ton of new features ton of diecast but it original price was way less than this
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on May 8, 2017 15:46:19 GMT -5
I would love to see actual production numbers vs. sales and how well this company nets because it honestly amazes me that they're able to keep afloat with such an entirely niche product style.
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Post by TaurusOxford on May 10, 2017 9:48:24 GMT -5
A thousand dollars? f**k off with that. How about you give that design to Bandai so they can make it into something affordable...
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Post by locidm on May 10, 2017 12:35:03 GMT -5
SHE stuff has always been expensive because it's a niche product on usually niche characters (or a niche aspect of a popular character in this case). It offers something no-one else does on the market. The base price for the figure (57,000 yen without drill and wing) is comparable with previous releases of similar size and complexity. These are engineering marvels that aren't available from any other manufacturers. The production numbers are likely very low and it has a very narrow range of target audience. It's understandable that many are taken back by the price, but those are the prices of one of a kind products. I sure hate to see all the negative energy towards releases like this. These aren't meant to be mass produced figures like Bandai SOCs or Sentinel Riobots, and aren't priced as such.
To this day, no one has ever attempted a perfect transformation Gurren Lagann. No one has done a perfect transformation Gunbuster, or Godannar. SHE is still the only maker of a perfect transformation Getter that isn't super deformed and has decent articulation (Freeing did release a SD Getter that only looks "ok" from the front with almost no articulation). Shouldn't we as toy collectors, even though most of us can't justify the pricing, embrace these kind of releases that is on the avant-garde of toy engineering?
When I first learned of SHE years ago, the perfect transformation Getter blew my mind. I still can't fathom how Godannar turn inside out and still looks good and articulated. This Gurren Lagann is another transformation scheme that is subltle but at the same time mind blowing. The drill, even though it's an accessory, achieves almost mass shifting magic. I can't afford it, but sure hope bros on RJ will buy one and show us how it works!
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Post by supergetterv on May 10, 2017 16:00:28 GMT -5
My experience with Studio Halfeye Products, specifically I own 4 of their products with my rarest and most prize one the Perfect Change Compact Version Shin Getter 1. I still don't know of any other company that has put out a Shin Getter 1 that can transform between the Shin Getter Machines and Combine to form Shin Getter 1. I also have the Perfect Change Dann of Thursday, simple change Getter 1 and Simple Change Gravion Zwei. .
But you have to understand the target audience and who the customer base for Studio Halfeyes are. Collectors that buy these, most are GK (Garage Kit) collectors. S.H.E. has been around since 90's and started as a company that only sell GK. GK production are never high. A couple hundred set per project as resin molds don't last. As for the high price, it's basically a complete GK, fully painted and assembled. So imagine buying a G-System Gundam Resin Kit or those ultra high price Japan Wonder Festival resin Kits. Do a eBay search for wonder festival exclusive kits and just see how outrageous the prices are for those. For Transformers collectors, remember that Jizai Toys Wonder Festival PowerGlide kit or the smaller size Predaking kit. Not only are they hard to find but extremely expensive. So, to equate the cost of this Gurren Lagann, the way I see it, it's paying for a high Price GK and kinda like commissioning someone to put it together.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on May 14, 2017 3:18:26 GMT -5
I'm not questioning whether or not it's niche or why it's expensive... so I'm not really understanding what that was in response to. I own Godannar and I get it (I also want to track down Dancouga Nova at some point.)
My question revolves around the fact that this just isn't stuff that you read about a lot of people actually buying. It could be a situation to where tens of thousands of people buy these releases and no one ever really talks about it anywhere; not likely, but who knows?
My big thing is that in my years of collecting and all of the tons of people I've had the pleasure of interacting with and threads I've lurked, the S.H.E. stuff just doesn't seem to be very popular. I can't think of 20 people I've seen buy the stuff, and SuperGetter is one of a handful I've seen who've actually purchased more than one (which is SICK btw!)
So with that, I just wonder how this company is doing financially in the sense that they produce higher-priced items and continue to have the funds to do so. I almost feel like there's this big-but-hidden S.H.E. collector's community and I want to find it!
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Post by locidm on May 14, 2017 10:06:29 GMT -5
TJ my post wasn't directed at you but was addressing the overall direction of the thread which is the condemnation of the price of the figure.
There were a few threads on SHE releases back in the day. There are a number of SHE owners on this forum. I own four myself including the perfect change Getter which is amazing.
Unfortunately production numbers aren't usually publicly available so we weren't able to answer your questions.
SHE used to produce a lot more different products 5+ years ago but has slowed down significantly. I doubt it's a normal business will full time staff.
When I was in Hong Kong visiting few years back I saw quite a few SHE products available in stores. My guess is many owners are Asia-based and not RJ members.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on May 14, 2017 13:43:36 GMT -5
Thanks locidm! I appreciate the clarification and the further insight as well. It's awesome that these are actually available in person at stores overseas. That actually explains a lot. I've thought about adding a few as I've caught up on a lot of what I needed to backtrack on over the years; What ones do you own and do you have any suggestions?
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Post by locidm on May 14, 2017 18:37:09 GMT -5
No problem. I got in a Getter frenzy back in the day and got my hands on the perfect change getter, compact change Shin Getter 1 as well as the simple change getters 1&2. All getters! Interestingly enough, I got two of them from HK and the other two from a RJ member from South America somewhere. All used.
While they are awesome pieces I just don't have time (or $) for more SHE products. I remember each transformation was a time sucker, which is great before I had kids and not so much now. Lol. I still haven't gotten around to transform my MP Meg and my DX chogokin SV-262.
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