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Post by bocasas on May 2, 2018 17:28:23 GMT -5
And right after I wrote my above post the situation changed... radically. Hasbro bought Power Rangers. Not the toy license. They now own the whole property. Toys, tv shows, IP, everything. Satan sold out. Hasbro also got a few other things such as “My Pet Menster”. So Power Rangers are being added to the shared Hasbro Universe. I suspect that that will end any chance of seeing SOC’s released as “Megazord” going forward. Not necessary true as Hasbro have granted license to other toy manufacturers for products they don’t intend to make. Like the The big Unimetal Optimus prime by Fewture. The small little transforming Optimus Prime PEN by Sen-Ti-Nel. MAS Optimus by Toy Alliance. Even HotToys got a license to make a Optimus with Starscream parts. Hasbro probably more than willing to issue out and grant license to other parties since it owns so much vs Saban. It is said that the transformers agreement between Tamara and Hasbro is that no one besides them can make transforming figures of the transformers.
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Post by supergetterv on May 2, 2018 18:20:02 GMT -5
It is said that the transformers agreement between Tamara and Hasbro is that no one besides them can make transforming figures of the transformers. And yet one of the few examples that I listed the Sen-Ti-Nel Optimus Prime transforming Pen, is an official transforming figure where license was granted by Takara/Tomy. An actual Officially Licensed 3rd Party Transforming figure. The point of my post is to show examples Where Hasbro and Takara Have granted license to other toy manufactures to produce Official 3rd party Transformers toys. Sure Hasbro with this newly acquired MMrP property can pump out their own products. Or they can simply grant license and collaborate with Bandai on an existing product like this SoC Dragon Caesar. If Hasbro see that there is enough interest in the USA market for a SoC DragonZord, then it’s not impossible for them to approach Bandai Japan and negotiate a deal to make a USA version of the SoC DragonZord like When Saban worked out the deal with Bandai to bring over a USA version of the SoC MegaZord.
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Post by faelon on May 2, 2018 22:59:12 GMT -5
And right after I wrote my above post the situation changed... radically. Hasbro bought Power Rangers. Not the toy license. They now own the whole property. Toys, tv shows, IP, everything. Satan sold out. Hasbro also got a few other things such as “My Pet Menster”. So Power Rangers are being added to the shared Hasbro Universe. I suspect that that will end any chance of seeing SOC’s released as “Megazord” going forward. Not necessary true as Hasbro have granted license to other toy manufacturers for products they don’t intend to make. Like the The big Unimetal Optimus prime by Fewture. The small little transforming Optimus Prime PEN by Sen-Ti-Nel. MAS Optimus by Toy Alliance. Even HotToys got a license to make a Optimus with Starscream parts. Hasbro probably more than willing to issue out and grant license to other parties since it owns so much vs Saban. Agreed Hasbro can be weird. But generally not so much with a major competitor. We will have to see.
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Post by generalrasp on May 3, 2018 7:00:58 GMT -5
At the very least I can't see Bandai stopping with the Dragonzord. Obliviously the Dragonzord is going to sell well and that will generate enough demand for a Titanus. If the later SOCs are branded under Sentai instead of Power Rangers we can still get them in the States. If Bandai never bothered with the slip covers we would have still bought them, they were just a nice bonus. I can see Bandai releasing Titanus as a P-Bandai item given the size and weight.
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Post by faelon on May 3, 2018 20:54:57 GMT -5
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure that thankfully the Sentai Mecha don’t have a Macross/Robotech/Harmony Gold style mess. While Saban now Hasbro has the right to use the Mecha designs as Megazord, and license them as such. They don’t have the insane exclusivity that Tatsunoko supposedly gave Harmony Gold back in the day. Toei maintains the primary rights holder for the designs in all markets and can license them as Sentai anywhere. So Bandai isn’t blocked from giving them to us as Sentai bots.
Also I remain wildly amused that autocorrect keeps changing Saban to Satan on me.
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Post by supergetterv on May 4, 2018 0:07:19 GMT -5
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure that thankfully the Sentai Mecha don’t have a Macross/Robotech/Harmony Gold style mess. While Saban now Hasbro has the right to use the Mecha designs as Megazord, and license them as such. They don’t have the insane exclusivity that Tatsunoko supposedly gave Harmony Gold back in the day. Toei maintains the primary rights holder for the designs in all markets and can license them as Sentai anywhere. So Bandai isn’t blocked from giving them to us as Sentai bots. Also I remain wildly amused that autocorrect keeps changing Saban to Satan on me. Right. Bandai Japan can continue to release SoC Dragon Ceasar and also don’t need permission to reissue Daizyujin and can even release SoC King Brachion for the Asian and Japanese Markets. Hasbro also wouldn’t care if collectors in the USA imports them just like they don’t care when US collectors import them TakaraTomy Masterpiece Transformers. In the case of MMPR, and even though the characters as we know them are the same, they aren’t cause of names and regions. We can look at a Daizyujin and call it a Megazord, but as long as Bandai Japan sold it as Daizyujin then its Daizyujin and not MMPR Megazord if that makes any sense. Basically SoC GX-78 is Dragon Caesar and will forever be known as Dragon Caesar. You can import and call it the DragonZord but it officially isn’t.
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Post by actionawesome on May 4, 2018 10:43:35 GMT -5
Agreed. I actually wonder how much the Megazord, and this one, have sold in the US. How many US Power Rangers fans are willing to shell out the cost of the Megazord? Many I know balked and passed at it.
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Post by sta on May 4, 2018 13:38:39 GMT -5
wonder why we havent seen more of the combined modes, maybe at sdcc?
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Post by GetterBoi on May 4, 2018 14:03:37 GMT -5
Agreed. I actually wonder how much the Megazord, and this one, have sold in the US. How many US Power Rangers fans are willing to shell out the cost of the Megazord? Many I know balked and passed at it. I think many initially did scoff at the price, saying "my Legacy version is just as good" or "No way the SOC is worth $200+." After the reviews for SOC came out though, more fans started to buy it but still just lukewarm sales-wise. After announcement of SOC Dragon Caesar I think that's when SOC Megazord sales started to climb, as you see the prices going up month after month. Now the FOMO effect is kicking in. If they ever announce SOC Titanus, esp as P-Bandai, I can see it get very expensive very quickly due to limited stock.
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Post by actionawesome on May 4, 2018 17:43:03 GMT -5
Agreed. I actually wonder how much the Megazord, and this one, have sold in the US. How many US Power Rangers fans are willing to shell out the cost of the Megazord? Many I know balked and passed at it. I think many initially did scoff at the price, saying "my Legacy version is just as good" or "No way the SOC is worth $200+." After the reviews for SOC came out though, more fans started to buy it but still just lukewarm sales-wise. After announcement of SOC Dragon Caesar I think that's when SOC Megazord sales started to climb, as you see the prices going up month after month. Now the FOMO effect is kicking in. If they ever announce SOC Titanus, esp as P-Bandai, I can see it get very expensive very quickly due to limited stock. Had to google FOMO. You are so right!!!
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Post by chogo on May 4, 2018 21:05:37 GMT -5
Do you guys think shinken-oh will be released in SoC version? Kind want the artisan one but hard to find.
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Post by bocasas on May 4, 2018 22:15:34 GMT -5
Do you guys think shinken-oh will be released in SoC version? Kind want the artisan one but hard to find. Don't think they will release more super sentai robots. Zyuranger is the most popular sentai show in the world (by being the PR season 1). And the megazord sales grew a bit only after the dragonzord was announced... as much as I love sentai series (I even collect those bulky sentai mechas, it's like a guilty pleasure), I cant think of any other megazord being a successful release. If you can find the sentai artisan one is gorgeous (someone was selling it in this forum a few month ago, check the sales post)
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Post by GetterBoi on May 5, 2018 1:09:00 GMT -5
Do you guys think shinken-oh will be released in SoC version? Kind want the artisan one but hard to find. Don't think they will release more super sentai robots. Zyuranger is the most popular sentai show in the world (by being the PR season 1). And the megazord sales grew a bit only after the dragonzord was announced... as much as I love sentai series (I even collect those bulky sentai mechas, it's like a guilty pleasure), I cant think of any other megazord being a successful release. If you can find the sentai artisan one is gorgeous (someone was selling it in this forum a few month ago, check the sales post) My guess is because many adult collectors are from the Go Nagai era, born between say, 1965 to 1979. This might be why Voltron sold so well but Megazord did not. I'm not as familiar with MMPR or Super Sentai because I was almost an adult by the time it released and the live actors stuff seems too corny. So the nostalgia factor is not as strong for me. I kept watching Gundam and Macross though, as well as some newer mecha shows like Full Metal Panic, Escaflowne, Evangelion, etc. Just my theory about the nostalgia of certain figures over others.
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Post by tjdetweiler on May 5, 2018 4:11:46 GMT -5
Agreed. I actually wonder how much the Megazord, and this one, have sold in the US. How many US Power Rangers fans are willing to shell out the cost of the Megazord? Many I know balked and passed at it. I think many initially did scoff at the price, saying "my Legacy version is just as good" or "No way the SOC is worth $200+." After the reviews for SOC came out though, more fans started to buy it but still just lukewarm sales-wise. After announcement of SOC Dragon Caesar I think that's when SOC Megazord sales started to climb, as you see the prices going up month after month. Now the FOMO effect is kicking in. If they ever announce SOC Titanus, esp as P-Bandai, I can see it get very expensive very quickly due to limited stock. I've noticed this as well! Pretty much Megazord was still availablr everywhere else but after dragonzord was announced they mostly sold out and the price went up as well..
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Post by sta on May 5, 2018 6:03:36 GMT -5
they did tease SOC titanus though on dragonzord page
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Post by Coletron on May 5, 2018 9:51:49 GMT -5
Back to licensing....
Here's some food for thought: Hasbro also produces television shows (Transformers Prime, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic). It's within the realm of possibility that they could produce a whole new MMPR show - without borrowing footage from the Super Sentai Series. From the press release:
"We see significant opportunity for Power Rangers across our entire Brand Blueprint, including toys and games, consumer products, digital gaming and ENTERTAINMENT, as well as geographically throughout our global retail footprint."
Entertainment means they've got control of the shows, as well as merchandise. So, we could conceivably see a total reboot of the live action series - and COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ROBOTS than those seen in Japan.
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Post by GetterBoi on May 6, 2018 1:03:32 GMT -5
they did tease SOC titanus though on dragonzord page Where?
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Post by Super.Ultra.Robo.Rider on May 6, 2018 7:28:36 GMT -5
Back to licensing.... Here's some food for thought: Hasbro also produces television shows (Transformers Prime, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic). It's within the realm of possibility that they could produce a whole new MMPR show - without borrowing footage from the Super Sentai Series. From the press release: "We see significant opportunity for Power Rangers across our entire Brand Blueprint, including toys and games, consumer products, digital gaming and ENTERTAINMENT, as well as geographically throughout our global retail footprint." Entertainment means they've got control of the shows, as well as merchandise. So, we could conceivably see a total reboot of the live action series - and COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ROBOTS than those seen in Japan. Just like the Lion's Gate reboot from last year, PR can do anything they want with reinterpretation, but personally, I don't want new. If they rebooted the show with a modern take on suit/miniature sfx with a very near to original design concept (across the board, rangers and zords) that would be a good time for me. I hope to see Hasbro take their expertise in transforming robot toys to deliver a super articulated, perfect transformation Dino Megazord.
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Post by faelon on May 7, 2018 9:23:33 GMT -5
I think we are grossly underestimating the sales of GX-72. To my eye it actually looks like a very strong performer. Just not quite as insanely strong as GX-71. It has had steady sales. It’s continued availability is more down to a larger production run then it not selling well. There are a few key tells to it doing well sales wise. It has never dropped to discount pricing. During a span when GX-73 and 74 both have. Repeatedly. It feels like it is selling better than GX-68 GaoGaiGar as well. While not an instant sellout like Voltron, It feels like it will sell out a little before its expected EOL. Don’t gauge sales too much by the skeptical Power Rangers collectors initially balking at the price. They are new market growth. New customers. The need for building Word of Mouth was part of it with them. But they are customers that have not been buying SOC’s Up until now.
I do think Bandai likely cost themselves some sales by slightly overpricing this one. Somewhere in the $268-280 range would have been the sweet spot. Same price point as GGG.
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Post by sta on May 7, 2018 16:24:56 GMT -5
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