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Post by 00silvergt on Oct 11, 2005 18:07:19 GMT -5
LOL
The End? Who the heck knows! LOL. I think: Ataru correct me if I'm wrong...but Shinji was being a little (rhymes with susy) again, even after making out with hot Misato...anyway The "third impact" initiated since the (People born out of wedlock) attacked Nerv and in order to reunite Lilith with Adam which was the ultimate catastrophe...(I think). The whole world got all jacked up, however Shinji had the power to save the world by how he was feeling. I guess he discovered he can make the world the way he wanted to make it...and he choose to make things all good...I think. I hear the producer was on Prozac and Viagra during the creation of the last episodes...I would have to watch it again though.
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Post by ataru on Oct 11, 2005 19:38:38 GMT -5
Hehe, i'll stay out of the in-depth eva conversation- I've only see it once, and that was years ago. The japanese r is linguistically called a tap or flap sound- it's like rolled r's except the tongue only hits the alveolar ridge once, not repeatedly. Typically it sounds a bit closer to an l or a d than an r. It's dangerous to think of it as ryu, because in japanese there exist both "ru" and "ryu," and they lead to significant differences in meaning.
With the Voltes example, in Japanese it's pronounced borutesu faibu. There's no v in standard japanese, but v is relatively easy for japanese to pronounce compared to some other foreign sounds. Also, japanese words can end in a consonant only with n. gold lightan fex is go-rudo raitan.
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Post by jwm on Oct 11, 2005 20:35:43 GMT -5
Part of what is maddening about NGE is that we automatically want all the parts of a story to fit into one coherent unit. In a word- we want a story to make sense. And no matter how many times you watch NGE you still come away going, "Hey, what did this or that have to do with so and so?".
My approach to NGE is not logical, but emotional. When you take the last psychedelic episode into account there is an overall theme of redemption through suffering. The individual components of the story fit loosley together to underscore that theme much in the way that a dream throws contradictory images into an overall experience that leaves you less with profound thoughts, than deep feelings.
I guess what it boils down to is: "Get comfortable that huge chunks of the story just aren't going to make sense. Just sit back and enjoy the ride."
JWM
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Post by mannyD on Oct 12, 2005 6:31:21 GMT -5
You guys are giving me a headache... hey guys, we can probably call the Evas "organic robots" ;D, kidding aside.
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Post by mannyD on Oct 12, 2005 6:36:31 GMT -5
Part of what is maddening about NGE is that we automatically want all the parts of a story to fit into one coherent unit. In a word- we want a story to make sense. And no matter how many times you watch NGE you still come away going, "Hey, what did this or that have to do with so and so?". My approach to NGE is not logical, but emotional. When you take the last psychedelic episode into account there is an overall theme of redemption through suffering. The individual components of the story fit loosley together to underscore that theme much in the way that a dream throws contradictory images into an overall experience that leaves you less with profound thoughts, than deep feelings. I guess what it boils down to is: "Get comfortable that huge chunks of the story just aren't going to make sense. Just sit back and enjoy the ride." JWM that is a very profound and sensible approach to the series bro.
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Post by 00silvergt on Oct 12, 2005 11:54:43 GMT -5
Organic? Yes, i think someone said cybernetic, which would be more fitting, actually. They are genetic experiments from the genes of a "being" covered with armor which also allows people to control them, with pilots "injected" to their spinal column.
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Post by mannyD on Oct 12, 2005 22:32:14 GMT -5
00silvergt: then, technically, you are probably right in the beginning bro. Eva has elements of a real robot. ahhh, this means, i need to get me those soc evas ;D. but i draw the line there, i won't get myself into sentai bots (this hobby is getting really expensive ;D).
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Post by jwm on Oct 12, 2005 22:43:11 GMT -5
MannyD: You will love the Eva's. My first SOC was Eva Unit One. It's still one of my favorite pieces. JWM
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Post by mannyD on Oct 12, 2005 23:34:20 GMT -5
MannyD: You will love the Eva's. My first SOC was Eva Unit One. It's still one of my favorite pieces. JWM tnx bro, good thing their on sale on some stores in greenhills (manila), probably around $35 each more or less. not complete though, i need to hunt down for good prices with one or two evas to complete the 6 bots. well, it is probably a good fix, i've admired them when they came out (am just collecting a different line at that time). and the timing is right since i already got my other bot priorities . best regards
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Post by 00silvergt on Oct 13, 2005 19:11:25 GMT -5
MannyD: You will love the Eva's. My first SOC was Eva Unit One. It's still one of my favorite pieces. JWM Yeah I like them as well. I actually was drawn to the Anime because of the mechs. But to attempt to end the whole REAL, Super thing, I think that the conclusion here is that it doesn't really matter since Bandai doesn't seem to be uisng this criteria when determining their candidates and choices when it comes to their SOC line. But they pick robots that will incite nostalgia and such for the appreciation of the true soul of the diecast from the early days of the Popy/popynica lines. NGE seems to be a misfit for this argument as well since they are fairly new to the Robot anime and one can argue that why isn't gundam part of this series rather than being on its own line as Bandia have decided? Maybe it is to control the numbers? Gundam would have a myriad of enties, from Zaks to Geloogs, Sazabi, etc. not to mention the variation of Gundam itself. However, I think the NGE was well done, albeit it does feel like you are buying the same toy over and over, but I definitely will argue that NGE belongs to the series as much as Xanbungle or any of the others. One can almsot argue for a Macross Valkyrie as well.
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Post by Kuro Kishi on Oct 13, 2005 19:22:28 GMT -5
Is it worth gettig GX-28? I'm confused. Some people say its excellent while others say it sux. Does anybody here recommend getting one?
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Post by jwm on Oct 13, 2005 21:35:10 GMT -5
Is it worth gettig GX-28? I'm confused. Some people say its excellent while others say it sux. Does anybody here recommend getting one? See This Rumble over at TBDX. It gives you the good, the bad, and the reason to buy it. JWM
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Post by mannyD on Oct 13, 2005 22:34:40 GMT -5
MannyD: You will love the Eva's. My first SOC was Eva Unit One. It's still one of my favorite pieces. JWM But to attempt to end the whole REAL, Super thing, I think that the conclusion here is that it doesn't really matter since Bandai doesn't seem to be uisng this criteria when determining their candidates and choices when it comes to their SOC line. But they pick robots that will incite nostalgia and such for the appreciation of the true soul of the diecast from the early days of the Popy/popynica lines. 00silvergt: nicely said bro, i agree with you on this 100%. but the thing only, the whole supah and real robot thing really "matters" to me. because sometimes we also have our own "criteria" in our own collection. so that we can determine which bot we will get from the myriad of bots sprouting in the market. like me, i've decided only to collect super robots initially, and real robots just lately, thus my decision to get xabungle, the evas, and now even gundam 1/144 scale diecast. but i have never like sentai, thus i will not collect sentai bots like battle fever J, even though bandai will include it in the soc line .
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Post by jwm on Oct 14, 2005 12:21:38 GMT -5
I have the Eva's, Gundam stuff, and super-robot stuff in my collection. I don't mix them on the shelves. Gundam stuff goes on the Gundam shelf, and robots on the robot shelf. The Eva's are great toys, but they don't display well with Gundams, robots, or any other toys. In fact, that's how 'Doesn't Play Well With Others' got started. I was really stoked when I got my GX-14, but I soon found out that it just didn't seem to fit in with anything else that I had on the shelves. I'm done with Gundam. I like the basic mobile-suit designs like the Zeta, the RX-78/2, etc., but when you get a bunch of Gundams together they all start to look the same. Soon I'm going to box all the Gundam stuff, so I can bring some vintage pieces out of storage.
JWM
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Post by Chen on Oct 14, 2005 12:24:52 GMT -5
I've got my Eva's on the same shelf as Dancouga (three on each side) and like how it looks like Dancouga has his little multi coloured army.
I want to get this but shipping of $30.00 is making me have second thoughts.
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Post by 00silvergt on Oct 14, 2005 14:44:54 GMT -5
With GX-28 either you love it or hate it. . I happen to like it but I have a nostalgic feeling since I had one that bullied away from me.
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Post by ataru on Oct 14, 2005 14:52:38 GMT -5
JWM, gundam toys/models definitely do get pretty boring when you stick to gundams alone, but what about all the zeon stuff? Then again, I've got so many doms (not even variants really, mainly just the plain old dom) that maybe I'm not one to speak.
Anyway, I think Xabungle's different enough from gundams to be worthy of some shelf space. I actually like the Blackarry(sp) more than Xabungle design-wise, but it's too bad that it doesn't have the kind of great paint aps it would have if it were a separate release. I think it's quite likely that Bandai will release a walker gallier soc at some point, because Xabungle has been selling very well (far better than the full-size gaiking).
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Post by jwm on Oct 14, 2005 15:01:48 GMT -5
Actually I like the Zeon mech's better. I have my share of Zaku's and Doms, and the DX Sazabi is a knockout on any shelf. I think Xabungle is a cool little toy. I don't plan on getting it, but I like it nonetheless. As a sideline: We're probably too close to see the humor here, but I doubt if any stranger to this silly hobby would appreciate the difference between a super robot, and a real robot. Perhaps the geek factor is showing here. JWM
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Post by Chen on Oct 14, 2005 15:10:28 GMT -5
Are there any pictures of Xabungle standing next to a 1/144 Gundam? I feel like if I get Xabungle I should get one of those diecast 1/144 (they are 1/144 scale right?) a RX-78-2 Gundam.
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Post by 00silvergt on Oct 14, 2005 15:17:11 GMT -5
Agreed JWM, on all points...
Sazabi...I think this where the Gundam folks either blew it or Bandai just have a special liking to the Zeons. RX-93 nu was the best Anaheim has developed to date (Char's counter-attack) or at least the newest. It does everything from Fin Flannels to moving pieces of a large asteroid away from the Earth's gravitational pull, surviving reentry to boot! However, it is usually an inferior toy/model when it is incarnated. Maybe it is the inherit design?
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