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Post by tnaclin on Dec 29, 2006 10:29:33 GMT -5
Maybe my observation is off .... but there are sure a lot of getter robots (chogokin) on the market ... and new animation series ... While I like the series very much and have pretty much collected all of them, I wonder why other robots (e.g., Voltes) do not get the same kind love Getter robots do ....
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Post by mazfan on Dec 29, 2006 10:33:09 GMT -5
I agree tnaclin. I have all of the SOC versions (GX 06, 18, 19 + 20). I like them but I am not crazy about them. Yes, they should focus on other robots.
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Post by zman on Dec 29, 2006 11:07:47 GMT -5
I think it is all about who's got the licensing and/or rights.
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Post by captainamerica on Dec 29, 2006 11:25:32 GMT -5
It's about history.... The getter team was the first gattai and the first transforming robot (I believe it predates raydeen, but I could easily be wrong). The getters are iconic characters in Japan roboculture, second only to Tetsujin 28 and Mazinger. Sure, other characters are more popular elsewhere (Voltron in the US, Voltes in the PI, Grandizer in France), but the iconic characters are gonna be made over and over because they're more likely to sell in Japan.
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Post by Actarus on Dec 29, 2006 12:28:55 GMT -5
Getter Robo has be bigger and better market, DVD are sold arounf the world.
On a personnal side, my robot of choice is Grendizer, but the best looking one is Getter. If you only look on the design and color, Getter is better.
As for other robot, they are less known. Godannar is beautiful, but nobody know him. Only those who enjoy anime will download it the sub.
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Post by mpchi on Dec 29, 2006 14:40:02 GMT -5
It's about history.... The getter team was the first gattai and the first transforming robot (I believe it predates raydeen, but I could easily be wrong). The getters are iconic characters in Japan roboculture, second only to Tetsujin 28 and Mazinger. Sure, other characters are more popular elsewhere (Voltron in the US, Voltes in the PI, Grandizer in France), but the iconic characters are gonna be made over and over because they're more likely to sell in Japan. I agree. It has more to do with the history of robot anime. Getter sure is a pioneer in both the combiner & transforming genre, starting 1974, a year prior to Raideen. And when we talk about 5 ships combiner, its usually Combattler V that took the spotlight instead of Voltes V. And in terms of uniqueness (not better or worse), Getter 1 sure has a very unique face that its still hard to beat til this day. So just like we keep seeing a lot of Mazinger related merchandise, I am not surprised that we see a lot of Getters as well.
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Post by zman on Dec 29, 2006 16:38:37 GMT -5
Do you guys think that if Aoshima had licenses for Voltron/Mazinger Z/Tetsujin/etc they would pour this much Getters on the market? I personally don't think so.
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Post by captainamerica on Dec 29, 2006 17:23:35 GMT -5
That's a mighty big if, but I bet they would. Look at the bajillion different mazinkisers, or the three different ankoku daishoguns. Aoshina is a bunch of repaint happy freaks. Also, other companies, like fewture, and revoltech are doing getters right now.
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Post by Kidchuckle on Dec 29, 2006 17:24:16 GMT -5
Well theres one thing that makes Getter more fascinating then most gattai robots. Getter's pilots each has robot that similar to their personality and skill set. Rather then a bunch of pilots controling one Robot. Plus getter has 3 hero bots for one show which makes things interesting. And my favorite part was the getter team always problem solving in which robot would be more suitable to fight the enemy robot. (will getter 1 beat it, getter 2 or getter 3?)
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Post by Chen on Dec 29, 2006 18:54:50 GMT -5
It's a combination of both history and just the basic design of the Getter Robot's. Getter's along with Mazinger Z, Tetsujin, Com-Battler and Raideen are probably the most revered Super Robot's (I'm sure I'm missing a couple)because they were each pioneers.
But also the basic concept of the Getter Robot's is so marketable, you get three robot's that are each unique but are still the same team which also "transform" and you have a winner. Plus the fact that the main Getter is always an eye pleasing red and white design (just like Japans flag) and you have something also aesthetically pleasing too.
As for Anime's well you have both Go Nagai and Ken Ishikawa who both had different views about Getter Robo's successors (Ken Ishikawa was no fan of the Getter Robo G designs) and done unique things ie. Getter Robo Go, Shin Getter, New Getter etc.
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Post by 45caliber on Dec 29, 2006 19:57:06 GMT -5
i do wonder too... WHY... i can't even say that i love them or hate them.. but why getters.. LOL
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Post by supergetterv on Dec 29, 2006 20:38:38 GMT -5
Mazinger Z was the reason I started collection SOC and the reason I like Chogokins. And I would have never learned about the Super Robot without Mazinger Z. But learning about the Getter team, Grendizer, and Combattler V, I have to say that I like the Getter Animes more. As far as new anime series go, New Getter Robo, Shin Getter Robo, Getter Robo Armageddon, I love all those series. I can't say the same for the new Tetsuijin 28 Anime series or the Mazinkaiser 8 episode series.
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Post by Kidchuckle on Dec 30, 2006 12:41:19 GMT -5
Hey Chen do you know why they didn't like Getter Robo G's designs? I've got a bias to Getter Robo G, it's what I grew up with.
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Post by Chen on Dec 30, 2006 20:05:45 GMT -5
You know I can't remember why he had a problem with Getter Robo G, it could be because Nagai was getting all the credit or maybe the story was heading in a direction he didn't like. I'll see what I can dig up.
I think the series Getter Robo Go was his real baby and what he wanted to be a sequal to Getter Robo.
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Post by Kidchuckle on Dec 31, 2006 12:20:37 GMT -5
thanks Chen.. ! although I have to say Getter robo Go, is my least favorite designs. Although I do understand them wanting to update it to that current mecha trends. But I felt it was too much of a departure from the original look
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Post by krimpov on Dec 31, 2006 13:26:05 GMT -5
As for Anime's well you have both Go Nagai and Ken Ishikawa who both had different views about Getter Robo's successors (Ken Ishikawa was no fan of the Getter Robo G designs) and done unique things ie. Getter Robo Go, Shin Getter, New Getter etc. Now that's funny... in Getter Robo Armageddon, Getter G is an adversary of both Shin Getter and the original Getter. I wonder if the fact that it plays the part of the vilain has anything to do with Ishikawa's opinion.
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Post by mpchi on Dec 31, 2006 13:50:09 GMT -5
Getter Robo Go does look pretty ugly in its original form. It was improved in Neo Getter, but still not quite as attractive. Though story-wise, Getter Go in the comic plays out a very important role, which is the introduction of the cool Shin Getter, as well as the interesting concepts of the 'man-machine synchro' and the 'living Getter energy' we see in many later shows and comics.
Didn't Ishikawa drew a bunch of Getter G comics too? I got a few volumes of those. Sure he hated those?
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Post by Chen on Dec 31, 2006 21:04:42 GMT -5
Well I guess hate would be a strong word since I've seen design sketches of his early Getter Robo G robots so he did have a say in their look. But what I'm not sure is if he just designed them because Nagai was too busy and he asked Ishikawa to do it or if he was following Nagai's instructions and wasn't allowed to deviate too much. Maybe it was the story he didn't like, who knows.
I'm speculating that Ishikawa wanted to have more of man and machine connection like in Shin Getter VS Neo Getter and really push the concept but Nagai may have wanted a more traditional take on the series. I guess only Ishikawa and Nagai know what the real truth is. But I think it's telling that in Shin Getter VS Neo Getter (which is Ishikawa's baby) that the failed prototypes have a very strong resemblance the the Getter G robots.
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Post by Kidchuckle on Jan 1, 2007 3:02:49 GMT -5
does anyone know where to get the manga? I've always been curious to see how it compares to the anime.. is there any fansubs of it?
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Post by mpchi on Jan 1, 2007 22:50:08 GMT -5
does anyone know where to get the manga? I've always been curious to see how it compares to the anime.. is there any fansubs of it? In terms of the mangas, there are quite a few releases, and could be hard to find now. Ishikawa had some individual short stories/side episodes of Getters in a bunch of different volumes of Super Robot War Comics, which usually feature a few different artists with each has their own short stories. Ishikawa usually is their lead feature artist in each volume. These came out during the late 90s, when the SRW game became big hit, and often a new book comes out when there is a new game. Then there is the Getter Robo Go set of his, as well as the vintage Getter & Getter Robo G manga that also drawn by him. My best bet would be do a search in Amazon Japan to see what is still in print. For out of print stuff, you probably have to search in Yahoo Japan auctions.
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