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Post by xiombarg on Mar 19, 2006 18:05:32 GMT -5
Hey guys, I've been meaning to post this for awhile, but I keep forgetting, so here it is. I found this stuff that is INSANELY awesome for keeping your figures firmly in place whether for tricky poses or just to prevent shelf dives etc. It's a reusable, non toxic, rubbery material that emits no secretions because it was originally made for tacking paper products to the wall, so it should be perfectly safe for figures. The best part is that it's cheap, like .99 cents a pack and you can buy it at Wal Mart. It seems to me that the yellow stuff is stronger than the blue, but both are good. Here's some pics. ![](http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/xiombarg001/PICT0001.jpg) This is a 15-16cm Armored core figure made of solid pvc sticking to the side of my laser printer. I did use quite a bit just to show how well it works, but the figure is still sticking there and has been for about fifteen minutes as I've been taking these pictures and loading them into photobucket and typing this. ![](http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/xiombarg001/PICT0006.jpg) The most practical use is preventing shelf dives or tipping over, especially figures that don't have a large foot base or are poorly balanced, but it's also great for stabilizing poses, or for holding loose joints in place.
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Mar 19, 2006 18:21:31 GMT -5
I'd point out that Dixon makes a version called "Holdit" and it's white - so that might be even better for our collectibles (I'm wary of staining things with the traditional blue "funtac").
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Post by xiombarg on Mar 19, 2006 18:33:31 GMT -5
I'd point out that Dixon makes a version called "Holdit" and it's white - so that might be even better for our collectibles (I'm wary of staining things with the traditional blue "funtac"). I tried some that was white, but it wasn't strong. I'm not sure what the brand was, so the Dixon stuff might be good, but the white stuff I used was kind of like a kneaded gum eraser and wouldn't have been able to hold my Armored Core figure to my printer. There shouldn't be any problems with stains. If it doesn't stain paper it's not going to stain anything. I've been using it for awhile and I've never found it to leave any residue.
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Post by 45caliber on Mar 19, 2006 18:49:45 GMT -5
is this better than using a museum putty? yeah i'm worried to as it might stain or leave some marks on the paint.. or it might even remove the paint if use for a long time.. i'll need some of your advice or review on this stuff... this would be a great help.. a peace of mind when using a subwoofer from a home theater or in case of a mild earthquake... thanks a lot xiombarg.. i'm gonna ask my cousin from west covina to look for this stuff.. i think it's not available here locally
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Post by xiombarg on Mar 19, 2006 19:50:07 GMT -5
I'm not sure what museum putty is. This stuff is rubbery and it stretches, sort of like silly putty but more dry and tacky feeling. It doesn't dry out, so it's not water based, and it's non-toxic, so it's not solvent based either.
My guess is that it's fine for figures, because if it caused stains they wouldn't have you stick it on your walls which is what it's made for.
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Post by mannyD on Mar 20, 2006 7:16:54 GMT -5
this clay stuff usually contain oils xio, be careful when using on soc and other diecast parts, might affect paintjob or chrome in the long run.
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Post by ayakoholic on Mar 20, 2006 17:04:28 GMT -5
I'm actually using the stands from my Final Fantasy Advent Children figures on a couple of my other comparably sized figures; one is keeping my notoriously wobbly Mazinger 1901 in place, and the other two are allowing my SIC Faiz to do a mid-air Crimson Smash (Rider Kick) pose and my SIC Faiz Blaster to do a flying slash pose. ^_^
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Post by ronin777 on Mar 20, 2006 17:51:10 GMT -5
I'm glad someone brought this up. For a while now I was considering using magnets to hold my bots on the shelf. Currently I am using a wooden shelf with doors. What I was contemplating was drilling a hole enough to put the magnets in flush in the shelf surface and glue them in to stay put in the wood and put the bots on top. I'm not sure if anyone has tried it, I haven't yet but I'm still trying to think of any negative effects to my collection other that giving them "magnetic" personalities. :-)
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Post by 45caliber on Mar 20, 2006 18:35:26 GMT -5
I'm glad someone brought this up. For a while now I was considering using magnets to hold my bots on the shelf. Currently I am using a wooden shelf with doors. What I was contemplating was drilling a hole enough to put the magnets in flush in the shelf surface and glue them in to stay put in the wood and put the bots on top. I'm not sure if anyone has tried it, I haven't yet but I'm still trying to think of any negative effects to my collection other that giving them "magnetic" personalities. :-) can gokin be magnetized except from their arms?
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Post by thebigr on Mar 20, 2006 19:51:33 GMT -5
XIOMBARG:
don't use that stuff, man! it stains the feet REALLY BAD if left on for over 12months. Plastic OR diecast.
Museum putty will stain diecast as well, but not so bad on plastics. I see every day GI JOEs and STAR WARS figs that are PERFECT but their feet have a blue or yellow tint- sure sign of putty of ANY brand or ANY type.
your best bet to reduce tumbling bots, IMHO, is either:
-a formal case with glass/wood doors; -a 1" wood veiner lip on your shelves- that way they only fall down rather than to the floor;
-i've found this worked GREAT at my 1st apartment: Neoprine rubber. First, get your shelf- any wall-mounted shelf, really. You know the joint where the support bars/arms meets the flat shelf surface? put a layer of Neoprine rubber - excellent for absorbing shocks (and common in Music Recording Studio Design field) - you only need 1/8" or 1/4 at the most, i used 1/16" slices for mine. Stick the slices in between the bars & the shelf itself. Bang! Now your shelf is shock-proof! Well, somewhat; it will protect against the casual light bump, bass-heavy stereo, or running child. It WON'T stop a domino-effect, or big-people running hard by it.
guys, don't use this stuff. it's ok in the short term (a few months) or if you want to replace the putty every 2-4 months (hot summers will make it break down quicker), and you want your robots minty-fresh right?
it's less about the chem. reaction to the Diecast or plastic, and more about the PAINT reacting with the putty. Especially "flaky" type paints (cough*bandai*cough*SOC*cough*cough*)
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Post by Falconhood on Mar 20, 2006 20:11:40 GMT -5
this might be the trick i have needed for those JLU figures...no holes...what was Mattel thinking?
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Post by 45caliber on Mar 20, 2006 20:36:24 GMT -5
XIOMBARG: don't use that stuff, man! it stains the feet REALLY BAD if left on for over 12months. Plastic OR diecast. Museum putty will stain diecast as well, but not so bad on plastics. I see every day GI JOEs and STAR WARS figs that are PERFECT but their feet have a blue or yellow tint- sure sign of putty of ANY brand or ANY type. your best bet to reduce tumbling bots, IMHO, is either: -a formal case with glass/wood doors; -a 1" wood veiner lip on your shelves- that way they only fall down rather than to the floor; -i've found this worked GREAT at my 1st apartment: Neoprine rubber. First, get your shelf- any wall-mounted shelf, really. You know the joint where the support bars/arms meets the flat shelf surface? put a layer of Neoprine rubber - excellent for absorbing shocks (and common in Music Recording Studio Design field) - you only need 1/8" or 1/4 at the most, i used 1/16" slices for mine. Stick the slices in between the bars & the shelf itself. Bang! Now your shelf is shock-proof! Well, somewhat; it will protect against the casual light bump, bass-heavy stereo, or running child. It WON'T stop a domino-effect, or big-people running hard by it. guys, don't use this stuff. it's ok in the short term (a few months) or if you want to replace the putty every 2-4 months (hot summers will make it break down quicker), and you want your robots minty-fresh right? it's less about the chem. reaction to the Diecast or plastic, and more about the PAINT reacting with the putty. Especially "flaky" type paints (cough*bandai*cough*SOC*cough*cough*) this is what i'm thinking about.. i won't risk any of my gokin's paint.. but still i'm in the process of thinking "what could be the best thing to do to avoid shelf dive?".. comments are welcome ![;)](http://lemonstre.fr/robot-japan/smileys/wink.png)
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Post by 45caliber on Mar 20, 2006 20:41:12 GMT -5
been also thinking of using a double sided tape particularly the black ones from 3M or the ones that comes with a tamiya RC kit... cut a small... small..... piece then stick to the gokin's foot then violah!! but still i am thinking that.. it might chipped off the paint in the long run.. or worst the paint can stick to the tape itself if sticked for a long time.. i guess 3M tape "may" not stain the paint.. but it "MIGHT" remove the paint from the piece itself.. any comment please..
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Post by 45caliber on Mar 20, 2006 20:46:32 GMT -5
and yes.. 3M's downside is.. that it will be difficult for somebody who's not happy for a descent pose.. what i mean is a collector that change their gokin's pose every other day... and BTW my shelf has a glass covering the front panel.. what i was worried is that my shelf is fully overcrowded.. a strong bump might make one of the gokin's fall.. and it might do some domino effects on the other.. crossing my fingers..hope it may not happen..
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Post by xiombarg on Mar 20, 2006 20:58:27 GMT -5
XIOMBARG: don't use that stuff, man! it stains the feet REALLY BAD if left on for over 12months. Plastic OR diecast. Museum putty will stain diecast as well, but not so bad on plastics. I see every day GI JOEs and STAR WARS figs that are PERFECT but their feet have a blue or yellow tint- sure sign of putty of ANY brand or ANY type. your best bet to reduce tumbling bots, IMHO, is either: -a formal case with glass/wood doors; -a 1" wood veiner lip on your shelves- that way they only fall down rather than to the floor; -i've found this worked GREAT at my 1st apartment: Neoprine rubber. First, get your shelf- any wall-mounted shelf, really. You know the joint where the support bars/arms meets the flat shelf surface? put a layer of Neoprine rubber - excellent for absorbing shocks (and common in Music Recording Studio Design field) - you only need 1/8" or 1/4 at the most, i used 1/16" slices for mine. Stick the slices in between the bars & the shelf itself. Bang! Now your shelf is shock-proof! Well, somewhat; it will protect against the casual light bump, bass-heavy stereo, or running child. It WON'T stop a domino-effect, or big-people running hard by it. guys, don't use this stuff. it's ok in the short term (a few months) or if you want to replace the putty every 2-4 months (hot summers will make it break down quicker), and you want your robots minty-fresh right? it's less about the chem. reaction to the Diecast or plastic, and more about the PAINT reacting with the putty. Especially "flaky" type paints (cough*bandai*cough*SOC*cough*cough*) Well, you've convinced me to do one thing. I'm going to test it. To be honest I don't think anyone understands what this stuff is. This isn't modelling clay, I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT CLAY, IT'S NOT PLAY DOUGH, THIS IS RUBBERY PLASTIC IN THE SAME FAMILY AS PVC. At this point I don't think it's any more dangerous than the pvc your figures are made of to begin with. It's not like the stuff we grew up with that made your hands turn blue and left marks when you threw it against the wall. And if it doesn't leave any marks or residue, none, not even on glass or on your monitor screen, I'm just not convinced it's bad. At least not until I test it. I mean, I understand everyone being cautious about it, but I'm not sure anyone here actually gets what it is, let alone has had any experience with it. But I'll test it on some figures and post back about it in ten years or so. ;D
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Post by mannyD on Mar 21, 2006 4:24:45 GMT -5
soc are pretty stable standing ricky. my wife and i had a petty quarrel once, and to get at me, she pushed my display cabinet sideways (yes, she is strong when angry hehe). i was shocked for 2 seconds hehe, i thought my gokins would fall to each other like the domino effect you said ricky. but the gokins stood their ground, no bot fell. they were shaken, but not stirred hehe. relax ricky!!! socs are stable when standing position, specially on "A" stance. but i don't know if the same can be said with female socs, i recently got me the maz angels, but did not displayed them yet. i don't plan to use the "A" stance on them, their legs must not be too apart.
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Post by thebigr on Mar 28, 2006 22:50:54 GMT -5
Well, you've convinced me to do one thing. I'm going to test it. To be honest I don't think anyone understands what this stuff is. This isn't modelling clay, I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT CLAY, IT'S NOT PLAY DOUGH, THIS IS RUBBERY PLASTIC IN THE SAME FAMILY AS PVC. At this point I don't think it's any more dangerous than the pvc your figures are made of to begin with. It's not like the stuff we grew up with that made your hands turn blue and left marks when you threw it against the wall. And if it doesn't leave any marks or residue, none, not even on glass or on your monitor screen, I'm just not convinced it's bad. At least not until I test it. I mean, I understand everyone being cautious about it, but I'm not sure anyone here actually gets what it is, let alone has had any experience with it. But I'll test it on some figures and post back about it in ten years or so. ;D ...no offense, my friend. I'm just looking out for your bots! i just see these type of stains every day at work, even on recent toys, that's all...
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Post by Jryu on Mar 29, 2006 0:48:22 GMT -5
I haven't actually tested the adhesive tack stuff with my gokins but I do know that after using it on posters for awhile, it will leave an oil spot over time on the wall and the poster. The poster spot is much more noticeable 'cause it looks like a bit of grease. The wall, not so much, but if you looked at the right angle, you'd see a sheen on the wall where the tack was stuck. Mind you, this was when I was in college over 10 years ago so the tack formula may have been upgraded since then. Also, the posters that I stuck on the walls were there for about 3 years before taken down so the oil residue may take quite awhile to develop.
j*ryu
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Post by mannyD on Mar 29, 2006 6:11:23 GMT -5
yeah, i think the same thing. even if it is not clay xio, oil is the best ingredient for the rubbery plastic to be soft and plyable.
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Post by xiombarg on Mar 29, 2006 10:26:46 GMT -5
Yeah, you guys might be right, but I'm hoping this stuff is a better formula. I'm giving it a test run with some old figures.
I guess if nothing else, it can be good for photos where you need a temporary pose that is unstable.
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