P.S. Does anybody remember when we used to get robots that weren't Mazinger, Mazinger Variants and his assorted siblings? I mean look at the front page of teh Chogokin forum lately. It's pretty much all Mazinger lately. A touch of Grendizer. Gimme some big colorful combiners damit!!!!!
The one on the right is what they originally planned to do where red marks as diecast but the price they asked 35,000Yen is too much for an ET product and their magnet served as the joints will put of the figure in risk of not holding together especially the shoulders and upper thighs so they went with plan "B" which is the one on the left.
Edit: Honestly speaking I really want to get this but I had more then enough orders to cover them especially DX SOC Combattler V coming this december but if it still available at a good discount, I'll be sure to add this to my collection.
"At risk of not holding together?" Heck I think ET's Magna joints pretty much guarantee it won't hold together. No risk there. It's a certainty.
They did just release the Great Mazinkaiser, didn't they. It's just the line seemingly has become "all Mazinger Family... ALL the Time... but just the basics, nothing that isn't one of the main hero bots!"
It looks like the paint wasn't mixed properly and didn't cure correctly. So as it finally fully outgassed it grew brittle and shrunk. Plus it looks like it didn't adhere to the undercoat. Just being close to a light wouldn't do that to both the shoulders and the legs. The display cabinet would have to be like an oven to even begin do the full top to bottom figure like that. And even then the paint would have to be pretty poor to start for heat to effect it that way. Bad or Contaminated Paint is far more likely.
Dear lord $400 for that?!? That's horrible. I don't expect it to be a Chogokin. It's clearly targeting the Voltron EX type collector so the large 16" well articulated plastic figures is fine and is a thing. But calling it a Chogokin and advertising die cast seems disingenuous. And my god, the sound of those horrible plastic ratchets on camera was nerve wracking. Klack Klack Klack! You could hear the shoulder joints screaming in pain.
This Voltron is licensed by WEP and believe it or not Dreamworks HK. It was a limited event license. Icarus sent pics of the event sent me an explanation. This is not an illegal or unlicensed voltron. You can all purchase in confidence.
No, no it's not. That's not how it works. The Mad Toys guy had 1 single e-mail exchange with a Dreamworks low level marketing drone wherein he sent a picture of the robot and she basically said "That's nice, sure apply for a license and we'll look at it". But what Dreamworks can license as a sublicensor is very very different. It is extremely specific to the Netflix show. Also if Dreamworks was involved the Trademarkings on the box would be different. They would look like the ones on the Playmates toys look. Oh and Playmates has the exclusive license for the Dreamworks stuff. Also Dreamworks as the sub cannot issue a license that is in conflict with WEP issued ones. Which were held by Mattel, Bandai and Toynami throughout. These are all well known facts. This is how these things actually work. Yes Icarus is lying. It's what they do. It's what they have done steadily throughout this. It's nice that he answered you. It doesn't mean that he is not lying. (Oh and before you dig out the strawman of "well WEP could be wrong or lying" no in this set of circumstances they cannot. They are the Trademark holder. They are who determines what is and is not their authorized product. Whatever they say in this regard carries the indisputable presumption of truth. If Icarus wants to claim they are lying he better produce the signed contracts.)
If you go back through MadToys facebook posts you will find where he outright said he had to sell out because it was completely impossible for him to get the license ever.
Everything that Icarus has told you is a lie, for the same reason it has been going all the way back to the first page of this thread. It Doesn't Work That Way. They would never be granted a "Limited Event License" because the license was already held by others. And more than anything else why on earth would you believe the fool from Icarus with regard to the status of Bandai's deals with WEP?
What's up with DC-Grendy's weird hiked-up bikini/speedo/shorts whatever?
I'm willing to bet its similar to that GX-70 weird change of underwear for articulation gimmick.
It looks great. It's probably one that I'll skip. I largely have enough Grendy's considering it's not a robot I'm overly find of. Maybe if it had the spacer, as I do like it paired up? The DC sub line really hasn't grabbed me. Maybe if or when they get around to Getter Dragon, Liger and Poseidon?
I hope you hear back from them but looks like we will have at least the weekend to continue speculating!
If CDX is claiming this is officially licensed product solely based on the logo on the box and the toy, I wouldn't bet on it.
Thinking from WEP perspective, granting Icarus license is sort of like hiring someone who they know stole from them as their security guard. It makes no sense. Sure Icarus isn't the same as the company who did KOB v1, but the mold and design was done with stolen IP to begin with.
However, since it is WEP we are talking about and they've done some boneheaded things before, if the license was somehow granted to Icarus then perhaps it explains why Bandai is pissed and has not reissued the SOC Voltron. It could also be the reason behind the delayed announcement of GX-76. It certainly makes a good story!
Anyway I hope we learn from Icarus whether this is licensed or not. If this is indeed blatant copyright infringement then I hope CDX would correct their videos and write ups accordingly to avoid spreading false news.
If this is official then I hope it doesn't impact Bandai's future plans on any Voltron products. I would love a SOC Dairugger or Albegas!
I had gotten a few responses in conversations with Tiffany Illardi. WEP's head of merchandising. She made it abundantly clear that no neither they, nor any Sub licensors had any business with Icarus or Mad Toys. This was also later confirmed with e-mails from BBTS when they looked into the mater and subsequently pulled the listing. The information e-mail for WEP is firstname.lastname@example.org. It may take a few days to hear back.
As for WEP being in some way a bad company? WEP is in every way possible the polar opposite of something like Harmony Gold. They gave kept the property active. Turned a forgotten anime into a global up. Maintained good relations with Toei throughout. Their biggest flaw is they are a small "Mom and Pop" private company, and tend to be fiercely loyal to business partners. Hence why they stuck with Toynami for so long. This is not actually a true negative in context. By all accounts they are incredibly nice people to work or deal with... so long as you're not, y'know, stealing from them. They get a little b*tchy about that.
And to remind all, because some straw men just won't die, there is no equivalency between what Mad Toys/Icarus did hear and 3p Transformers. 3p don't claim to be the product or IP they are mimicking. UG-00 does. There is unlicensed grey area. There is Bootleg. And there is Counterfeit. 3p is generally the first (occasionally crossing the line to #2). This thing is #3. It's counterfeit product, the same as a fake Gucci bag or a Rolex.
I don't think that means WEP approved it. Miracle production did the same thing with Vehicle Voltron. Earlier in this thread faleon has excerpt of an email explicitly stating this release does not have their approval or licensing. I think it just means they are blatantly violating WEP copyright on Voltron.
You could be right. But in the beginning, the MA-01 was licensed by WEP. It was after endless delays, QC problems and reissues that WEP sued Miracle Metal Works and pulled the license. I've followed this thread, and faelon knows way more about this stuff than I do. But Josh B and other reviewers say it's a legit Voltron.
MA-01 was a little more complex than that. MM didn't have a license. But they were in negotiations regarding one. WEP was willing to extend the license, but MM was not far enough along in development to show a viable mock up or prototype. So there was a tentative informal agreement provided MM could come back with something to show. MM took much too long, and by the time they came back Mattel had swooped in and picked up the license. It's a problem smaller companies can face regarding licensing. Licenses are expensive. If you don't have infinite funds you don't want to be paying for them when you aren't ready to proceed. But in not locking yourself into the license it leaves the door open for someone else to come in and buy it. After all selling the license is how the licensor makes their money. It isn't earning for them while you try and get your act together.
I'm not keeping my hopes up for Liger and Poseidon until they make Getter 2 and 3 to go with the DC Getter-1 first.
Oh they will do a Liger and Poseidon long before they do a Getter 2 and 3. Weirdly they have a long history of selling better. Getter 2 and 3 would have to be an exclusive double pack. There just isn't enough too them to make a decent stand alone. Liger and Poseidon have a weird popularity all their own. (In North America their inclusion in the Shogun Warriors line didn't hurt.)
Safe bet is Jeeg. Maybe a somewhat lesser chance of Grendizer. Long shot of either Getter Dragon or Aphrodite A. My prediction.
good infos, but i remember you said it will be stopped by the customs because it isn't a legit product also they will have hard time to sell it
and you missed a huge point that they made ton of cash selling the first KOB every hardcore fan got one, i remember some members here got two
this is more like an R version (repaint) so thats in your words money in the bank
i say lets give them some time and see
I said it CAN be stopped and seized by customs. They don't actually look in every box unless the drug sniffing dogs get curious. Since the US does not impose import taxes the way many nations do, they don't overly scrutinize the shipping papers much either. At least for small order private individual improt items. A vendor such as BBTS or similar will get checked. The issue is mainly risk. Because its a trademark fraud customs can and will seize and destroy it if they happen to discover it, and you have no recourse. I'm pretty sure that no HK vendor will re-imburse or refund you for product seized by customs. What I said was don't spend more for this thing than you are prepared to lose, because you will have no safety net.
KumaStyle.com (TJ): Sending him a private message may be faster...
Feb 26, 2018 18:52:07 GMT -5
krimpov: Maybe he thought the Shoutbox reply field was to reply to the thread. I see how one could make that mistake. But... he's been here for years, so he should know. So maybe he's just high.
Feb 27, 2018 15:50:54 GMT -5
GetterBoi: It's only March?!?! Feel like I spent more money than 2017 already.
Mar 1, 2018 4:02:38 GMT -5
S_Gokin: and we will spend more lol
Mar 1, 2018 16:47:47 GMT -5
mojacko: I need tip on some good anime to watch?
Mar 13, 2018 11:36:09 GMT -5
KumaStyle.com (TJ): If you like stuff like Pacific Rim, I always recommend Godannar. It's a favorite.
Mar 13, 2018 22:13:47 GMT -5
krimpov: I second the motion! Really good "modern" - already 15 years old... damn - old school super robot show. Plus, if that's your thing, it's overflowing with fan service... and new ways to carry a cell phone.
Mar 14, 2018 22:39:37 GMT -5
mojacko: Thanks...Ill try Godannar...if I can find it in Kodi
Mar 15, 2018 11:36:24 GMT -5
mojacko: Anyone has a link to watch Raideen?
Mar 15, 2018 11:37:19 GMT -5