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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 8, 2014 9:34:37 GMT -5
Mr, J said " I would be interested in seeing the results of a petition and will consider it accordingly"
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 8, 2014 10:16:30 GMT -5
Why doesn't HLPro just let the collectors' wallets do the talking - like Bandai with the Tamashii Web Exclusives? For example, let's say it takes a minimum of $15,000 USD to get a small production going (limited licensing/design/molds/manufacturing/etc...), Then why not just put out a Pre-Order with a minimum number of pre-orders required for the project to begin? Like a minimum of 1000 pre-paid pre-orders required for production to happen. Then set a deadline for minimum pre-orders to be filled. CM's tried this with the Dancouga Nova. They did not meet the amount of pre-paid pre-orders, so the project was cancelled and money returned to the folks that paid. Not much cost went into the project, other than a resin prototype and advertisement pictures - which I'm sure they could easily recuperate by just selling the prototype to a collector or another company. So anyway, it just baffles me that HLPro doesn't do this more often, since they do sell a few exclusives directly from their site - just like Bandai's Tamashii Web. }D
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 8, 2014 10:56:24 GMT -5
that's another possibility.. from what I have seen so far, HL pays all production costs up-front.. they refuse to borrow money, its the only way to avoid interest charges that sap all the profit out of the project. If you ever fall into debt with the banks, the banks now own your company and you have to stress the hell out to pay those notes.. (this is what happened to CM) but making a separate cash account for a character funded by the fans could be a possibility.. Im sure Mr J will see your message.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 8, 2014 16:31:21 GMT -5
Cool! Think of it as a "kickstarter" project of sorts. }D
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Post by B- on Jul 8, 2014 18:37:45 GMT -5
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Post by B- on Jul 8, 2014 18:47:23 GMT -5
It would be a compliment if HLPro had used my pillar display idea! Or is it from the manga? I just used it cuz I thought it fit..nice if it actually was a nod to my ET Z-Maz display..
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 8, 2014 19:32:26 GMT -5
Its from the Manga..
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Post by B- on Jul 8, 2014 20:08:10 GMT -5
Oh ok just a coincidence then,do you own the manga tom?
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 8, 2014 20:17:31 GMT -5
Oh ok just a coincidence then,do you own the manga tom? no I have just seen bits and pieces from it.. it seems to take place in a Greek Parallel universe.. I have been thinking about you petition idea. I am worried that its not going to fly. Im reviewing the details in my head about what things that I was told in the past. To do a humanoid MT, it takes a minimum production run of 5000 units.. and most of that 5000 just covers the overheads. Its like 15,000 USD just for the dies alone to cast and mold the thing.. then all the cost of hiring the talent bla bla bla.. anyway, its going to take one hell of a petition to convince them to make that character anytime soon.. You would think that Gattiger would be a harder sell than Diapolon but its not.. (more on that on release day when I make my announcement) Yeah Diapolon is missing right now in a lot of collections... but how many of us are there REALLY that will buy him? Maybe 2000, 3000?.... that petition is going have like 5000 names on it.. that's what Im thinking. That's a big petition dude... ha ha
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 8, 2014 20:18:52 GMT -5
So forgive my ignorance, but what version of Mazinger is this? I'm guessing it's from some non-canon universe? Zmazinger.. a rare manga variant ... the prototype is the coming HLpro version.... its canon.
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Post by tetsuryu on Jul 8, 2014 20:39:26 GMT -5
I'd like a God Mazinger please.
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 8, 2014 20:43:51 GMT -5
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Post by B- on Jul 8, 2014 21:07:01 GMT -5
Oh ok just a coincidence then,do you own the manga tom? no I have just seen bits and pieces from it.. it seems to take place in a Greek Parallel universe.. I have been thinking about you petition idea. I am worried that its not going to fly. Im reviewing the details in my head about what things that I was told in the past. To do a humanoid MT, it takes a minimum production run of 5000 units.. and most of that 5000 just covers the overheads. Its like 15,000 USD just for the dies alone to cast and mold the thing.. then all the cost of hiring the talent bla bla bla.. anyway, its going to take one hell of a petition to convince them to make that character anytime soon.. You would think that Gattiger would be a harder sell than Diapolon but its not.. (more on that on release day when I make my announcement) Yeah Diapolon is missing right now in a lot of collections... but how many of us are there REALLY that will buy him? Maybe 2000, 3000?.... that petition is going have like 5000 names on it.. that's what Im thinking. That's a big petition dude... ha ha Diapolon is missing in EVERY collection,not most LOL,a modern one anyhow,but its inevitable someone will make it,he is in demand.. just take a look at the Italian boards alone,they are constantly wishing for him and in numbers..Anyhow it was just an idea Tom.Youve put much more thought into it than I have,and know HLPro guys so.., Diapolon will eventually come out anyhow,hopefully from a larger company that can handle a 3 robot transformation.Or second best just the robot proper from evolution toys,the rate they are going they will have EVERY classic SR made soon,although not diecast..they have the best sculpts in the industry barnone which CAN NOT be denied,their toys look EXACTLY like the characters,I wish a diecast company like Bandai could get those sculptors. Maybe they can afford to make so many SRs since they are plastic..they have about 30 distinct Sr related toys out and they have only been making them for about a year and a half !,i dont see many people jumping on them here in the board but they must be selling as they are being made! I know I am buying them!. Back to HLPro..,the Z-Mazinger is totally different in style than the ET version,the angles are way different,not better or worse just different,like rounded cubes.Im glad of that,I thought no one could top the ET sculpt,but since HLPro did it so differently its not really a comparison,as they are so different.I like that,now Ill have 2 different versions of this obscure guy.Good job HLPro cant wait for Gattiger and Z-Mazinger!!
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Post by actionawesome on Jul 8, 2014 21:51:00 GMT -5
Please tell me that is being released fully. Cause I need it!
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 8, 2014 22:13:00 GMT -5
Yes action Zmazinger is under development as we speak.. it will come out.. If memory serves, maybe around December but don't hold me to that date, I am working from a 45 year old memory.
Baron, someone will make Diapolon.. its just a matter of who and when. But yeah, I see big hole right there.. we just have to wait and see what happens. .. I agree with what you said about the HL Zmaz sculpt.. its also pretty technical, if I remember correctly it has sliding panels that cover parts of the joints and a bunch of little neat gimmicks on it. I think its going to be able to hold its own next to any other company..
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Post by actionawesome on Jul 8, 2014 23:50:40 GMT -5
Man. That is awesome. I hope they keep the rolling out awesome. Maybe a Gaiking or a God Mazinger!
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Post by Chen on Jul 9, 2014 5:58:53 GMT -5
Looks pretty good.
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Post by reVolVer on Jul 9, 2014 7:43:39 GMT -5
nice,,, i love the ala "excalibur" accessory gimmick. Seeing another Maz incarnation as ZMazinger, probably theres a chance that HL Pro will make SKL too. i hope bandai doesnt have exclusive rights.
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Post by B- on Jul 9, 2014 8:17:21 GMT -5
Tom I'd mention to HLPro that if they use that modified Mazinger-Z logo that the hyphen shouldn't remain at the end it should go between Z and Mazinger. Right now it says ZMazinger- instead of Z-Mazinger just an observation.
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 9, 2014 8:57:22 GMT -5
yeah.. Zmazinger. That's what it says on the manga. Then if you look on the manga that have it written in Japanese its written just like HLpro wrote it..with that hyphen at the end. Guess its "Zmazinger-" ?
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