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Post by B- on Sept 6, 2014 17:28:29 GMT -5
At $87 total I paid, its a "nice" price. Oh man I instantly thought of this...the old record stickers..  |
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Post by greengetterguy on Sept 6, 2014 17:48:25 GMT -5
Lol..now you make me think of Tower Records. i now have high hopes for HLPro. Tom, please send them a job well done regards for me.  I also need more hints on Z Mazinger... |
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 7, 2014 17:26:44 GMT -5
Weren't they supposed to update Gin Gin so that the saw blades actually pegged into the saucer properly? I don't know how much I can talk about Gin Gin.. I think I can get away with saying that Gin Gin comes up in discussions and I can tell you that Im glad that I have a 1st edition Gin Gin. That's all I can say for now. When I know more and if I get permission I will bring Gin Gin up later in conversation. |
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 7, 2014 17:38:36 GMT -5
Lol..now you make me think of Tower Records. i now have high hopes for HLPro. Tom, please send them a job well done regards for me. I also need more hints on Z Mazinger... ZMazinger and Gattiger will be equipped with nicer joints than Gin Gin, articulation is not standardized so it will depend on the character. Zmaz is going to be a nice figure and you can see that it is in a slightly different style than the other MT figures. Certain aspects of the Zmaz articulation system are still being considered. That is the last I have heard of it. I know the general release date and all I can say is that it will be sooner than you think it is. HLPRO is being pressured by the dealers to release figures faster because of Gattiger sales, but HLPRO is trying to keep the releases at a solid steady pace because releasing them too quickly can also be a problem.. there is a risk of "burning out" the demand... the plan is to do something of a compromise in the area of two MT figures a year and more vinyl in the other lines. So as far as the MT line goes, they are caught between two opposing market forces.. "making too fast" and "making too slow"/ "making too much and not making enough".. HL is taking the more middle ground, its more secure that way from a business point of view. There have been comments that have popped up in this thread lately that made me really have to "bite my tongue" because the comments are based on conjecture that is based on the PUBLIC information that HL puts out. There is a lot more going on behind the scenes, and it has been going on for the last year and a half. Some stuff is going to be made public over the next 12 months that is really going to surprise a lot of guys here. That's all I can say right now. |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 7, 2014 17:52:47 GMT -5
All I have to say is, what good is it to take a long time to put out any possible awesome characters, and risk lots of folks not caring about them anymore by the time they are released. The high pricing, slow release schedule, and overall lack of trustworthy places to purchase these HLPro figures have truly worn me down, and I consider myself a die-hard collector of Super Robot anime characters. I wonder what it has done to other folks that are not as eager to get these figures. Really, to be honest, I don't care for these releases half as much as I previously did. The Gattaiger "drag" has drained me of all my HLPro releases excitement...  }| |
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Post by B- on Sept 7, 2014 18:25:42 GMT -5
Lol..now you make me think of Tower Records. i now have high hopes for HLPro. Tom, please send them a job well done regards for me. I also need more hints on Z Mazinger... ZMazinger and Gattiger will be equipped with nicer joints than Gin Gin, articulation is not standardized so it will depend on the character. Zmaz is going to be a nice figure and you can see that it is in a slightly different style than the other MT figures. Certain aspects of the Zmaz articulation system are still being considered. That is the last I have heard of it. I know the general release date and all I can say is that it will be sooner than you think it is. HLPRO is being pressured by the dealers to release figures faster because of Gattiger sales, but HLPRO is trying to keep the releases at a solid steady pace because releasing them too quickly can also be a problem.. there is a risk of "burning out" the demand... the plan is to do something of a compromise in the area of two MT figures a year and more vinyl in the other lines. So as far as the MT line goes, they are caught between two opposing market forces.. "making too fast" and "making too slow"/ "making too much and not making enough".. HL is taking the more middle ground, its more secure that way from a business point of view. There have been comments that have popped up in this thread lately that made me really have to "bite my tongue" because the comments are based on conjecture that is based on the PUBLIC information that HL puts out. There is a lot more going on behind the scenes, and it has been going on for the last year and a half. Some stuff is going to be made public over the next 12 months that is really going to surprise a lot of guys here. That's all I can say right now. Release too quickly???thats a joke right? HLPRO never releases anything quickly or as you say at a solid steady pace,they release things at an uneven ,annoying pace.Ive never seen a company I collect{dont collect Fewture}make customers wait so long between figures,its very,very slow,they really need to work on that,combined with little preorders its certain death. .Iknow youll have a rebuttal for why they do what they do,like they want things perfect,QC, etc,but but all companies have those problems,large or small.It ultimately can make people lose interest.No such thing as an HLPro impulse buy thats for sure.After seeing the same toy offered so long and never released I guarantee some customers just lose interest especially for such obscure robots. Please dont flood me with statistics and reasons,it is what it is and its annoying.How long ago did these 2 figures get announced?Maybe it seems longer than it is,but either way its been too long.Im happy as hell to give them my money but no matter how you look at it,people hate waiting for things they want,especially me. |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 7, 2014 18:44:35 GMT -5
Gattaiger was announced like in October or November of last year! Pre-orders started a couple of weeks ago, and it won't be out until October?! Hell, I find this disrespectful! Better to keep their trap shut until they know the item will release in four months or less... like Bandai does. Company size has nothing to do with being as honest as possible in release dates from the get go... }| |
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Post by greengetterguy on Sept 7, 2014 19:51:44 GMT -5
One MT a year to two MTs year sounds great .
Z Mazinger looks close to source material. Down to its weirdly thin wrists. If the quality is anything like Gin Gin, I will wait.
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 7, 2014 20:33:17 GMT -5
Im talking about the future not the past Baron.. and really , "people losing interest" and all that really isn't an issue with this thread. RJ has like 5 guys on it talking about Hlpro.. most guys buying right now have never even been here.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 7, 2014 23:09:04 GMT -5
... well, Gin Gin going for $81 shipped doesn't really speak well for continuous buyers interest, does it? Yeah, it sold out - in a deep discount clearance sale. Even the Crayola Robot sold out when HLJ slashed its price 65%. But only time will tell... like it just did with Gin Gin. }D |
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Post by grendyrj on Sept 8, 2014 0:35:43 GMT -5
Release too quickly???thats a joke right? HLPRO never releases anything quickly or as you say at a solid steady pace,they release things at an uneven ,annoying pace.Ive never seen a company I collect{dont collect Fewture}make customers wait so long between figures,its very,very slow,they really need to work on that,combined with little preorders its certain death. .Iknow youll have a rebuttal for why they do what they do,like they want things perfect,QC, etc,but but all companies have those problems,large or small.It ultimately can make people lose interest.No such thing as an HLPro impulse buy thats for sure.After seeing the same toy offered so long and never released I guarantee some customers just lose interest especially for such obscure robots. Please dont flood me with statistics and reasons,it is what it is and its annoying.How long ago did these 2 figures get announced?Maybe it seems longer than it is,but either way its been too long.Im happy as hell to give them my money but no matter how you look at it,people hate waiting for things they want,especially me. Duke Fleed in Grendizer's hand is an example. HL Pro announced to ship Duke Fleed by the end of August but the fact is that there is no any announcement of delay nor expected new shipping date at their website or FB page. Unlike their announcement of preorder period. I think they should clarify this issue with their customers.  |
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Post by B- on Sept 8, 2014 5:24:31 GMT -5
Im talking about the future not the past Baron.. and really , "people losing interest" and all that really isn't an issue with this thread. RJ has like 5 guys on it talking about Hlpro.. most guys buying right now have never even been here. Yes Tom but the future is now...by losing interest i mean everywhere,people know of Gattaiger not just through this thread,the announcement and photos were shown elsewhere..if thats what you mean..Hey I love HLPro and their toys,just want them faster! |
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Post by grendyrj on Sept 8, 2014 6:08:11 GMT -5
Their delay and quiet (actually not quiet but instead they still promote their upcoming products) makes me hesitate to preorder Gattaiger. I don't like this situation. I means it's like waiting for something unknown.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 8, 2014 8:44:08 GMT -5
Exactly! }D |
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 8, 2014 11:18:44 GMT -5
ok then.. sorry to bother you guys.
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Post by Gettershadow on Sept 8, 2014 11:36:11 GMT -5
... well, Gin Gin going for $81 shipped doesn't really speak well for continuous buyers interest, does it? Yeah, it sold out - in a deep discount clearance sale. Even the Crayola Robot sold out when HLJ slashed its price 65%. But only time will tell... like it just did with Gin Gin. }D what a 2-dimensioal way of thinking.. Hlpro was already paid by the dealers long by that time... its the dealers and the retailers that lowered the price bc new stuff was coming. HLpro always gets paid the same. If the retailer drops the price, HL doesn't even KNOW ABOUT IT, they got paid on that a long time ago. Its the retailer that sets the retail price.. not HLPRO. |
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Post by surlyj on Sept 8, 2014 14:38:44 GMT -5
... well, Gin Gin going for $81 shipped doesn't really speak well for continuous buyers interest, does it? Yeah, it sold out - in a deep discount clearance sale. Even the Crayola Robot sold out when HLJ slashed its price 65%. But only time will tell... like it just did with Gin Gin. }D what a 2-dimensioal way of thinking.. Hlpro was already paid by the dealers long by that time... its the dealers and the retailers that lowered the price bc new stuff was coming. HLpro always gets paid the same. If the retailer drops the price, HL doesn't even KNOW ABOUT IT, they got paid on that a long time ago. Its the retailer that sets the retail price.. not HLPRO. Your thinking is off. The retailers slash the price because their stock isn't moving. Yes, HLPro got paid a long time ago for Gin-Gin, but if it doesn't move for retailers and they feel forced to slash prices and reduce their profit margins significantly (often just trying to recoup their cost in these big time price reductions), then they will be less eager to order future HLPro products and/or reduce their orders. So HLPro may have made their money on Gin Gin already, but they stand to lose money on their future products if Gin Gin needed a big slash in order to sell through. |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 8, 2014 15:44:32 GMT -5
Again, EXACTLY! I really like most of HLPro' Metaltech releases. Hell, I have seven or eight MT01's, for crying outloud! But I have to speak off when something is not right. People hates Fewture for giving out release dates that most of the time are nothing but fantasy. HLPro doesn't actually give actual release dates... well, they don't give out anything, to be honest. They just tease a project for fans to get a woody, and then any info about it is basically in a black hole. No MSRP info, retailers, release date, nothing. That is not cool! So no, I don't hate HLPro, but they need to make some changes on how they keep fans up to date. }D |
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Post by grendyrj on Sept 8, 2014 16:35:59 GMT -5
Yes, their products look very nice and neat and also make me recall of my impressive childhood memory. I therefore wait to order their products by the time of the announcement. You know, they just say coming soon but you will never know when the products be set to preorder. During PO period, they promoted to sell the products and announce the left stocks in hand for PO to boost up or finalise their PO period and then sold out. I understand this, every manufacturers want to sell their products. But after that when the initial release date is coming. No one knows that the products could not be released by the due date or there may be somethings wrong with the production line except for the manufacture. People hope to receive their items at the release date but nothing. There even no any announcement from HL PRO to their fans. It's unlike the PO period which they made their announcements to boost up sale. From a broadminded person point of view, i think this is not fair to their fans as after sale service is very important. No one could sell their products and after that left all risks to their customers. If there are any wrong with the initial set release date they should let their customers know of and announce the new expected release date. I believe that this will make their fans happier than being nothings like this. Also, this will keep their fans in the long run.
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Post by B- on Sept 8, 2014 17:14:04 GMT -5
ok then.. sorry to bother you guys. Tom stop taking things so personally,if it was actually HLPro speaking here the same things would be addressed,you decided to be their spokesman in a way here,so expect to get positive and negative feedback... We are a very critical bunch,as in any specialized hobby,some of us sink alot of money into these robots....so expect to hear what we think,we are the consumers,without us HLPro would be nothing.And in fact you say there are only 5 of us here,maybe so,but we have in fact made an impact on figures made by them,and they have certainly taken our advice..so we must hold some clout in what they do! |
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