Your insights on Macross by Yamato 1/60 vs 1/48

[shiroamada]

Lately i have been thinking of getting Macross transformable toys by Yamato. Part of my decision-making in getting these toys are the PROS & CONS involved like the Quality, Scale, Price and Appeal. Surely the Valkyrie (Plane mode) when displayed on a stand is very attractive and is really awesome if the super parts are loaded.

I would like to get feedbacks or comments for those with 1/60 or 1/48 or both about the item. I have seen video and written reviews about these items but i would like to hear it from you guys, still.

Thank you and i hope to read your insights on the items soon.

[lurkerx]

Well there is a lot of threads here comparing the two but I'll bite anyway:

If you want a comprehensive complete macross Valks collection all in the same scale I'd go with the 1/60s, as every other valk/macross toy out there outside the 1/48s good or bad guys are scaled at 1/60 or close to @ 1/55 or 1/72.


If you want THE definitive (IMO) VF-1 toy then nothing can really touch the 1/48s.

The 1/48s are most certainly more superior to Yamato's old 1/60s

I'm not sure about the newer 1/60s as I haven't handled them, nor to I have the desire to do so.

I'll have to admit when the 1st 1/48 came out I was really sceptical as I've heard really bad things about Yamato's 1/60 line.

I was converted the moment I handled my 1st 1/48 VF-1A Hikaru. I swore I'd get every single release but "burnt out" after the 11th one. I still intent to complete my 1/48 collection someday which is sort of a testament to how satisfied I am with them.

[Omni Existence]

I'm biased with the 1/48's. I've only seen the new 1/60's and was lucky enough to handle one, but didn't buy any just yet. Plan to get 2 seaters only.

If you're into the Valkyrie mode than any of the other two and for display purposes, I would recommend the 1/48's. Simply because of sheer size, and as you mentioned, with the Strike Pack on, it's just an awesome display piece.

Now if you're more into the Battroid, the 1/60's are a little better since it's got improved poseability and proportions. Also, the 1/60's have the advantage of having the most complete line of Valks from the series and movies.

[quinjester]

Having handled both the 1/48 and 1/60, I have to say that the 1/60 is hands-down better. It feels more solid (it feels DIVINELY solid, quite frankly. It's really a pleasure just to swoosh around), both in fighter and in Battroid mode, and it has a much better method of handling the FAST packs. The 1/48 always felt fiddly and a little hollow, and the airbrake and wing flaps were always flipping and flopping around looseley. There's nothing on the 1/60 that feels loose or fragile.

The only way the 1/48 has the 1/60 beat is in display presence. If size is what you're really about, then it's hard to beat the 1/48. If you're more into the feel and enjoyment of transforming, posing, and "playing" with your toys but STILL want a piece that looks great, then I'd suggest the 1/60. It's really a quantum leap in quality and feel above anything Yamato has made before (and since).

[mpchi]

Since you are starting now, go with the new 1/60.

1/48 is good in size, slightly more detailed in some areas, and the bot mode looks better on the neck & shoulder, as well as longer nose cone on plane (but also too long for bot mode). If you just want 1 to display, 1/48 is very good.

But once you start considering getting more than one, or adding GBP-1S full armor on the valk, then the new 1/60 has most of the advantages with cheaper retail price, sturdier joints, slimmer GBP armor, and matches better in scale with most other Macross toys outside.

So bottom line:

If you only want one, and want it nice and big, go 1/48.

If you want more than 1 in your collection, and wants to have the GBP-1S armor, 1/60 ver.2 is the obvious choice.

[mojacko]

oh my the never ending battle against the scale.....
ok my take on the subject.....
since both are done by yamato and have barely no die cast content....but definitely toy engineering wonder..........i still dont have the 1/60 v2 so i cannot comment on it.....and i havent really fiddle around with my 1/48 since i bought it like 2 years ago....so the bottom line....scale wise....to each his own!!! hehehehehe....!!!
but been reading bad reviews abt the shoulder of the new 1/60 hope they resolve that issue.....as for comleteness sake.....might consider starting on the 1/60's....but if size does matter.....1/48 is the winner...... ;D

[jrcrunch]

playability! get 1/60


for display! get the 1/48!

[tanrover]

I will say 1/48 because that is what I have. But, if I were starting from scratch, I would lean towards the 1/60 just to get it in scale with the other macross lines.

[pascal]

I wouldn't call the 1/60 YF-21 or SV-51 very solid or playable. I have a bunch of different designs in both scales, they're comparable. The old 1/60 suck balls though.

[quinjester]

Aug 25, 2009 11:36:55 GMT -5 pascal said:

I wouldn't call the 1/60 YF-21 or SV-51 very solid or playable. I have a bunch of different designs in both scales, they're comparable. The old 1/60 suck balls though.

Any "solid" or "playable" comments on my end are exclusively limited to the V2 VF-1 . I don't have the 21, but I have the YF-19 and the SV-51 and yes, they're anything but solid or playable, I agree.

[tanrover]

I have the YF-19. Im gunning to get at YF-21 or a SV-51 next. no way im changing y VF-1(1/48) to 1/60 scale for the sake of scale.

[locidm]

Armored 1/60 VF-1J by Yamato is out!

www.toysdaily.com/discuz/thread-118348-1-1.html

[xTIMMYxCOREx]

ooooooo I hope they sell that armor separately I want it for my VF-1S Max weathered.

[shinotaking]

they sell the armor separately but it cost 9800 yen for the at amiami

[xTIMMYxCOREx]

AmiAmi is selling the 1/48 scale parts... not he 1/60... which only comes with a VF-1J.

I only need armor for my weathered VF-1s

[Ben-Ohki]

Y'know, one thing I noticed nobody addressing in their posts is the fact that Yamato seems to be treating the 1/48 mold as a one-shot deal. There is a certain self-limiting potential to collecting 1/48 scale (as I personally discovered) because there simply aren't that many variations to go around. Except for the heads, there are only the same repaints over and over again between VF-1A, VF-1J, and VF-1S, with or without TV-style hands, Super/Strike FAST Packs, or the GPB-1 armour parts. I gave up after my third one myself (11? LurkerX, I bow to your superior patience!).

I love them, but there are times I look over at my display and think the 1/60 scale shelf is so much prettier to look at (I've got a VF-1J Max colour, a Tomahawk Destroid, and a Quadlun-Rau Milia colour). The variety of figures there is just more pleasing to the eye for me and cooler to tell my non-collector-friends: yeah, all those are to the same scale, isn't that neat?

[Chen]

I think the potential in the 1/60 line far surpasses the 1/48 line do to the fact that there are so many choices. If you get sick of VF-1's you have the choice of other VF's and mechs from different series and at the smaller size it's easier to display.

[lurkerx]

I do agree with Chen that if you want a multi generational/series of Valk beyond the original Macross series then the 1/60s are the way to go to be able to display all of them in the same scale.

But for me Macross ended with the SDF-1, VF-1 design variations and marcoss plus valks. Somehow I just couldn't get into the designs for Macross Zero let alone the wannabe Aquarion Valk designs of Macross Frontier's. Aquarion's design was satisfactory and unique for a one off, applying it to an army of new generation Valk is just plain hidous [IMHO] making the Valk's design way too busy for my palate or perhaps that's just me getting old.

I bought several 1/48 VF-1 valks for these reasons:

1) Nostalgia - Remembering watching the anime all those years ago always makes me smile.

So although they are in essence the same mold re painted over an over again they were all part of the beloved macross anime and were totally plausable.

As a child, I've always wanted a complete set of Takatoku/Bandai's VF-1 "Chunky Monkey" molded Valk.
When I finally got a part-time job in my mid teens it had been too late those takatokus were selling for $800-$1,500 a piece clearly beyond what I wanted to spend.

2) Aesthetics - nevermind the fact that I believe the best military aircraft jet fighter ever built was the F-14, the VF-1s design totally resonates and inspires me.
To me the 1/48s represents the ultimate VF-1 toy I had decided on collecting all of its releases because I love the VF-1 design aesthetics

So for these reasons, it makes sense to get various release of the 1/48 rather than just 1-3. My only peeves with the line was its failure to release the 2 seater VF-1 Valks and its "real world" color scheme and limited edition cash grab Vf-1 releases

To date:

8 of the 11 1/48 VF-1s I bought for nostalgia represents most of its anime appearances

3 of 11 I bought for the love of the VF-1's aesthetics.

If I had more cash I would've stayed true to grabbing evey single release.

So picking up a few more may be on the horizon depending on how much super robot chogokin releases strikes my fancy.

[ancer]

For me the VF-1 is the Best representation of Macross.

I had bought all the 1/48ths. I then fell out of love with
them when the V2 1/60 were announced. I have
nowcompletely sold them all.
I've only bought what are to me key 1/60 Valks.
Fokkers 1s , Ichijo's 1j, ichijo's 1a , 1d, ve1 , vt-1
and the vf1j mass production
I didn't care for the vf 1a cannon fodder
and i bought 1 unpainted valk for a custom job.

the others will wait . or maybe never get bought.
I thought about max and miria's vf1j
I dont know . I had them in 1/48 scale but I dont
feel a great desire to get them again.

I think that the 1/48 scale had its place . If Yamato made everything (zero / plus) in 1/48 then I would have continued getting them. I think I get more value for my money in the 1/60 scale . They're easy to display and since everything else is scale that works for me.

[chogokinsnake]

Jan 3, 2010 22:27:01 GMT -5 ancer said:

For me the VF-1 is the Best representation of Macross.

I had bought all the 1/48ths. I then fell out of love with
them when the V2 1/60 were announced. I have
nowcompletely sold them all.
I've only bought what are to me key 1/60 Valks.
Fokkers 1s , Ichijo's 1j, ichijo's 1a , 1d, ve1 , vt-1
and the vf1j mass production
I didn't care for the vf 1a cannon fodder
and i bought 1 unpainted valk for a custom job.

the others will wait . or maybe never get bought.
I thought about max and miria's vf1j
I dont know . I had them in 1/48 scale but I dont
feel a great desire to get them again.

I think that the 1/48 scale had its place . If Yamato made everything (zero / plus) in 1/48 then I would have continued getting them. I think I get more value for my money in the 1/60 scale . They're easy to display and since everything else is scale that works for me.

And don't forget about the new 1/60 VF-1J Armor.