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Post by jeromy on Mar 14, 2010 21:16:50 GMT -5
Hi everyone! I am new here but am a long time collector and was hoping you guys could help me out. I normally collect vintage gokin and vinyl but am looking to start collecting Diaclones. I am not really interested in the ones that became Transformers, as I already own several Transformers, but rather the ones like Gats Blocker, Fortress X, Warudaros, etc. I have noticed that Gats Blocker is fairly easy to find and fairly inexpensive in his US Diakron and Kronoform boxes, but the others seem pretty rare and pretty expensive.
I am really hoping to one day find a Fortress X and Great Robot Base but do not know their scarcity and worth. There is a Fortress X on eBay right now but it is VERY expensive. If I were to buy it my wife would kill me and I wouldn't be able to buy another toy for a couple years.
I have checked yahoo japan and there is a Machine Dragon I am watching, however the others seem pretty scarce.
I was hoping you guys could help me out on the value and scarcity of these toys. I really appreciate it and thank you in advance.
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Post by micromanzone on Mar 15, 2010 1:27:21 GMT -5
I don't know the specifics about the Diaclone stuff, but I can give you some general advice: While the dollar is weak against the Yen now thanks to the economy, the competition for bidding on Yahoo! Japan Auctions has practically dried up to nothing. The dollar being weak and people not spending as freely can work to your advantage of you're a bargain hunter.
Case in point: I scored a few YJA stuff where I was literally the 2nd or 3rd bidder in the past month. And even when you calculate fees, I still paid tons less for the items when compared to prices of when they appeared on eBay.
So if you can play the waiting game, stalk out items you like on Yahoo! Japan Auctions bid and I bet you will get a very decent deal.
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Post by jeromy on Mar 15, 2010 22:20:55 GMT -5
Thank you! I really appreciate your advice.  |
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Post by KingboyD on Mar 17, 2010 11:34:35 GMT -5
Welcome to the board! I am really hoping to one day find a Fortress X and Great Robot Base ... Aren't we all!  There is a Fortress X on eBay right now but it is VERY expensive. If I were to buy it my wife would kill me and I wouldn't be able to buy another toy for a couple years. Just be very cautious. Know the true value before jumping in to a Buy It Now on ebay. Many of the sellers of these top choice pieces are looking to take advantage of buyers who are unfamiliar with the market. I think that toy you mentioned is one example (unless I am way off base on the price). |
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Post by jeromy on Mar 17, 2010 13:32:05 GMT -5
Thank you. Yeah, that is the one on eBay. Buy it now price for $2500.00 or something like that. I don't know how much he is worth but I did notice nobody is bidding or buying. I suspected it might be too much.
I think I will just wait and save money. I will find one eventually.
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Post by machinesoldier on Mar 19, 2010 13:36:21 GMT -5
I collect Diaclone extensively, and like you I'm mostly interested in the non car robot stuff. Fortress X is a fantastic toy, and by far the best in the line. 2500 is ridiculous, depending on the condition you want you should be able to get one in the 500-800 range on Yahoo. Great Robot Base is more expensive, and in my opinion not as nice as Fortress X. It's all plastic, and kind of flimsy, Fortress X has a good amount of diecast and is solid. Gatz Blocker is dime a dozen in the Diakron box, and you are correct the original is much more expensive. If you get the diakron, go for the one with multi colored drivers, meaning the limbs and bodies are different colors. Some releases have those and others have the newer car robot drivers which have metal bodies, which aren't as cool and don't fit with some of the older diaclone toys. Waruderos, all plastic, kinda cool and unique, and comes with Waruder pilots. Can be found pretty easily. Dia Attacker is decent, good diecast content, solid transformation, and carries the Diaclone aesthetic nicely. Hard to find mint but used ones are usually available. Double Soldier is another cool one, with lots of diecast. A robot that turns into another robot. There's also his little brother, Twincombat. Machine Dragon? Eh, its cool if you like magnemo toys, but it's a reissue of an older Microman toy from the 70's so it doesn't have a lot of the same design and functional details that the newer toys have. There's plenty more. Buy one, then spend hours drooling over the catalog.. yes make sure your first diaclone includes the catalog!! I have all the 1st and 2nd series toys, and I keep up on the values, so if you need any advice on certain pieces or auctions feel free to PM me. If you weren't aware it's not a good idea to post live auction links in the forum |
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Post by jeromy on Mar 19, 2010 17:58:45 GMT -5
Thank you so much! Yeah, I found scans of the Diaclone catalogs online and have been staring at them. I've also been staring at the pictures of Fortress X on this site and drooling. My wife thinks I'm nuts. I am very sorry about mentioning the eBay auction. I actually just watched the video on CollectionDX and when they mentioned that I felt bad. I really am sorry. Thank you again for all the info. I really appreciate it. |
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Post by machinesoldier on Mar 20, 2010 11:06:38 GMT -5
Oh, don't worry about it, and that's not really what I meant. Just don't post links to a live auction, which you didn't do. Consider this: You post an auction link in a thread, to see if it's a good price or whatever. It is, and several other people who want one and didn't know it was listed see the post and will now be bidding against you. Thus your final price will probably be higher. Simple economics But, in this case I think a BIN listing that is insanely overpriced is an exception. A lot of people do this when they first join a forum. Myself included. |
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Post by evolve on Jul 12, 2010 10:38:10 GMT -5
machinesoldier "Machine Dragon? Eh, its cool if you like magnemo toys, but it's a reissue of an older Microman toy from the 70's so it doesn't have a lot of the same design and functional details that the newer toys have" Excuse my intromission but,as a huge takaroloigst, I would like to correct you about this toy.The original design comes from a Go Nagai's old MANGA,as you can tell on the box of the MACHINE SAURER.All those dragon guys belong to the Diaclone series,as you can see on the fundamental book "Takara SF Land".The Machine Dragon came out as Din'sosaur Robots main villain.So one from the Waruder Army (but I'm still not sure about that).It obvoiusly looks like a Getter Robot mechanical monster dinosuar,since it's a secondary minor Nagai's product.In the end of the Diaclone series another good character shows up: the DEATHCROSS humanoid robot(?).Using the popular Takara's magnemo patent,this space hero (close to Sentai series,as shown in the tv commercial) fights against a mechanical dragon...yes my friends,same toy here!They just chaged the packaging,the name (this time is MACHINE SAURER) and the color scheme.Come in 2 color variants,with white or red (rarer) crest.TAkara made also the samller versions of those those toys..respectively 3 small death crosses and 3 small machine saurers in 3 color variants,as in the dammned takara's tradition, and 3 weaponry variants just for the small machine saurers.PLUS there were 3 smaller model kits:1 machine saurer,one mechanically altered tryceratops (straight from Getta or some Tokusatsu series,apparently) and one mechanically altered flying dino.Among those toys I actually miss one model kit and the 3 small death crosess,that together with the mail prize robot base masks could finish my quest for non-cars diaclones.
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Post by evolve on Jul 12, 2010 10:39:44 GMT -5
Oh AND....I love Machine dragin's packaging and art.It's a magnemo,right,but still full of weapons and posability.
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Post by machinesoldier on Oct 13, 2010 14:07:46 GMT -5
machinesoldier "Machine Dragon? Eh, its cool if you like magnemo toys, but it's a reissue of an older Microman toy from the 70's so it doesn't have a lot of the same design and functional details that the newer toys have" Excuse my intromission but,as a huge takaroloigst, I would like to correct you about this toy.The original design comes from a Go Nagai's old MANGA,as you can tell on the box of the MACHINE SAURER.All those dragon guys belong to the Diaclone series,as you can see on the fundamental book "Takara SF Land".The Machine Dragon came out as Din'sosaur Robots main villain.So one from the Waruder Army (but I'm still not sure about that).It obvoiusly looks like a Getter Robot mechanical monster dinosuar,since it's a secondary minor Nagai's product.In the end of the Diaclone series another good character shows up: the DEATHCROSS humanoid robot(?).Using the popular Takara's magnemo patent,this space hero (close to Sentai series,as shown in the tv commercial) fights against a mechanical dragon...yes my friends,same toy here!They just chaged the packaging,the name (this time is MACHINE SAURER) and the color scheme.Come in 2 color variants,with white or red (rarer) crest.TAkara made also the samller versions of those those toys..respectively 3 small death crosses and 3 small machine saurers in 3 color variants,as in the dammned takara's tradition, and 3 weaponry variants just for the small machine saurers.PLUS there were 3 smaller model kits:1 machine saurer,one mechanically altered tryceratops (straight from Getta or some Tokusatsu series,apparently) and one mechanically altered flying dino.Among those toys I actually miss one model kit and the 3 small death crosess,that together with the mail prize robot base masks could finish my quest for non-cars diaclones. I had some trouble understanding this, english must not be your first language. My statement was true, the diaclone machine dragon is a reissue of the magnemo toy, so I don't know what you're correcting. Maybe that was the wrong word for you to use. If you have small machine dragon toys in a diaclone box, this is the first I am hearing of them and would like to see some pics to back that statement up. As well as ANY death cross diaclone toys, those were only released pre-diaclone to my knowledge. |
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Post by BermudaMohawk on Oct 17, 2010 1:21:29 GMT -5
machinesoldier "Machine Dragon? Eh, its cool if you like magnemo toys, but it's a reissue of an older Microman toy from the 70's so it doesn't have a lot of the same design and functional details that the newer toys have" Excuse my intromission but,as a huge takaroloigst, I would like to correct you about this toy.The original design comes from a Go Nagai's old MANGA,as you can tell on the box of the MACHINE SAURER.All those dragon guys belong to the Diaclone series,as you can see on the fundamental book "Takara SF Land".The Machine Dragon came out as Din'sosaur Robots main villain.So one from the Waruder Army (but I'm still not sure about that).It obvoiusly looks like a Getter Robot mechanical monster dinosuar,since it's a secondary minor Nagai's product.In the end of the Diaclone series another good character shows up: the DEATHCROSS humanoid robot(?).Using the popular Takara's magnemo patent,this space hero (close to Sentai series,as shown in the tv commercial) fights against a mechanical dragon...yes my friends,same toy here!They just chaged the packaging,the name (this time is MACHINE SAURER) and the color scheme.Come in 2 color variants,with white or red (rarer) crest.TAkara made also the samller versions of those those toys..respectively 3 small death crosses and 3 small machine saurers in 3 color variants,as in the dammned takara's tradition, and 3 weaponry variants just for the small machine saurers.PLUS there were 3 smaller model kits:1 machine saurer,one mechanically altered tryceratops (straight from Getta or some Tokusatsu series,apparently) and one mechanically altered flying dino.Among those toys I actually miss one model kit and the 3 small death crosess,that together with the mail prize robot base masks could finish my quest for non-cars diaclones. I had some trouble understanding this, english must not be your first language. My statement was true, the diaclone machine dragon is a reissue of the magnemo toy, so I don't know what you're correcting. Maybe that was the wrong word for you to use. If you have small machine dragon toys in a diaclone box, this is the first I am hearing of them and would like to see some pics to back that statement up. As well as ANY death cross diaclone toys, those were only released pre-diaclone to my knowledge. I think he was just saying they were released at some point in toy form, not that they were released in the Diaclone line. |
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Post by redkris on Aug 30, 2011 4:27:01 GMT -5
Some other diaclone that might be interested, you could try Diaclone Big Powered, Double Shoulder and also Dia Attacker, I just happened to have these toys and I'm very satisfied to own them
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