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Post by shaxper on Feb 12, 2005 12:44:09 GMT -5
any of the original Autobot cars from the first series that haven't been done yet, and maybe more movie and post movie TFs. I've heard that some of the original Autobot car molds are either lost or severely deteriorated. Takara was actively working to restore Sunstreaker's mold a while back, but since we haven't heard anything about him as an upcoming reissue, it seems likely they abandoned the project. Besides, at the slow rate of reissues right now, I'm sure they want to get to some of the exciting later stuff. I too would like to see Takara reissue many more of the pre and post movie TFs. Maybe treat the reissues as its own series, releasing entire waves at a time. I'd also like to see them start reissuing some of the G! Japanese exclusives. Starconvoy, Liokaiser amd Grandus, amongst others. There have been some rumors that they're considering reissuing Diaclone items too (not just Diaclone colored car-robots). I'd LOVE to see that happen. |
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Post by REX-203 on Feb 12, 2005 13:28:45 GMT -5
Thanks! These are some really interesting things we are (pretty much) unearthing -- it is so nice to have found a board which allows for real and intelligent conversations, instead of all those "what he said" and "c00l!!!!!!" replies... no offence meant toward present company, of course...  Oh, and check out the "Microchange" thread in the Microman/Diaclone section.... Soooo.... basically you want all toys from 1986 and onwards... now, *that's* my way of thinking!  I actually think a character like Minerva could be a real gem to see reissued. Not only would it be the first 1988 toy, but it would also be the first female TF to be reissued. Hmmm.... We really have a lot of very good potential reissue candidates now.  Checked out the Microchange thread. Great stuff there as well! Minerva would be great! Wasn't she also a Japanese exclusive? I don't recall there ever being a US version. That would be yet another good reason to reissue her. |
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Post by REX-203 on Feb 12, 2005 13:35:40 GMT -5
I've heard that some of the original Autobot car molds are either lost or severely deteriorated. Takara was actively working to restore Sunstreaker's mold a while back, but since we haven't heard anything about him as an upcoming reissue, it seems likely they abandoned the project. Besides, at the slow rate of reissues right now, I'm sure they want to get to some of the exciting later stuff. I too would like to see Takara reissue many more of the pre and post movie TFs. Maybe treat the reissues as its own series, releasing entire waves at a time. I'd also like to see them start reissuing some of the G! Japanese exclusives. Starconvoy, Liokaiser amd Grandus, amongst others. There have been some rumors that they're considering reissuing Diaclone items too (not just Diaclone colored car-robots). I'd LOVE to see that happen. That would be a shame if they couldn't reissue certain TFs due to mold problems. I've always wondered, can't they just "remake" molds like those, perhaps using the old toys as a guide? If they can make brand new toys, it would seem easier for them to remanufacture molds of old toys. It's not like they'd have to spend more money on the toys' engineering. I have mixed feelings about them releasing reissues as a whole line, series by series. It would be nice in the sense that they could reissue more at once. On the other hand, the good part about them releasing one every so often is that it will prolong the time of G1's modern day popularity. I'd hate to see fans and collectors become oversaturated with G1, leading to an early second demise. G1 Japanese exclusives all the way. If they start reissuing guys like Star Convoy, Star Saber, and Victory Leo, it would be incredible. The American market would certainly devour that! |
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Post by Fighbird on Feb 12, 2005 14:23:02 GMT -5
;D LOL! Carefull now, you're playing with fire... |
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Post by Fighbird on Feb 12, 2005 14:35:31 GMT -5
I've heard that some of the original Autobot car molds are either lost or severely deteriorated. Takara was actively working to restore Sunstreaker's mold a while back, but since we haven't heard anything about him as an upcoming reissue, it seems likely they abandoned the project. Besides, at the slow rate of reissues right now, I'm sure they want to get to some of the exciting later stuff. Actually, *I've* heard (ooh, I love all this hear-say ) that Takara is indeed basing some of their reissues on the original toys for the molds that aren't available to them anymore; that should have been the case with Predaking, for instance... Oh yeah, Star Convoy and Liokaiser would be ever so sweet!...  If anyone's looking for a cheap Grandus, BTW, I can heartily recommend the Brave version of him -- a bit different colors and some retooled parts, but still 100% Micromaster compatible. That doesn't really gel too well with the rumours *I* have of the japanese (Diaclone) fans not being too thrilled about any of the Diaclone-colored eHobby releases...  |
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Post by Fighbird on Feb 12, 2005 14:37:29 GMT -5
Minerva would be great! Wasn't she also a Japanese exclusive? I don't recall there ever being a US version. That would be yet another good reason to reissue her. Well, the toy was a recolor of Nightbeat (and/or the other way around; take your pick ), but as a character, she was only available to the Japanese market, yes. |
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Post by shaxper on Feb 12, 2005 17:14:12 GMT -5
I can heartily recommend the Brave version of him -- a bit different colors and some retooled parts, but still 100% Micromaster compatible. I've strongly considered it, but have never seen it sell under $200. Sonokong really needs to start producing one. You heard correctly. However, in a press release a while back, Takara said they were actively considering Diaclone reissues. I think they meant non-car robot reissues; the earlier stuff. The possibility really excites me, though I'm begining to wonder if I'm going to regret dropping $400 on a Great Robot Base. |
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Post by Fighbird on Feb 13, 2005 9:45:30 GMT -5
I've strongly considered it, but have never seen it sell under $200. Sonokong really needs to start producing one. I've seen them go for $100 Buy It Now on eBay... heck, you can even buy mine! It's MIB, stickers applied, in a c8+ box. Asking $100. Nice! That would be very nice, considering that vintage Diaclone is practically even harder to come by than vintage G1!  |
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Post by shaxper on Feb 13, 2005 10:04:35 GMT -5
I've seen them go for $100 Buy It Now on eBay... heck, you can even buy mine! It's MIB, stickers applied, in a c8+ box. Asking $100. ( Hmmm. I just may take you up on that. Of course, it may have to wait a while if I'm purchasing that Overlord |
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Post by Fighbird on Feb 14, 2005 7:31:45 GMT -5
Seing a similar thread like this on another board, actually opened my eyes up to what Takara was really doing with their pre-Dreamwave bookstyle reissues. Think about it:
Convoy -- Megatron (16S)
Ultra Magnus -- Sixshot
I don't want to pair up Hot Rodimus and Starscream, 'cause they barely met each other, but the lineage of releaseing heros with their archnemesis would probably have led to a Galvatron reissue to counter Rodimus Convoy -- think about it!...
I wonder what happened, since Takara opted to start the Dreamwave books...
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Post by MightGaine on Feb 14, 2005 13:08:52 GMT -5
Victory Saber, Overlord, Deathsaurus, Liokaiser, Road Caeser, Black Zarak  |
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Post by adi182 on Feb 15, 2005 3:05:31 GMT -5
piranacin, reflector, Bw neo unicron |
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Post by Fighbird on Feb 15, 2005 7:49:56 GMT -5
Bw neo unicron Oh yeah!! Bring it on!! ... but that would technically not be reissue... |
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Post by toymachine on Feb 15, 2005 14:19:31 GMT -5
Well knowing my luck it could very well be Overlord or Wheeljack, seeing as I’ve just recently picked those up.
I had just finished the Insecticons when I heard they were to be re-issued and the same thing happened with Predaking and Perceptor.
Personally I'd like to see any of these: a Decepticon Jet, some cassettes for Soundwave/Soundblaster, Blaster, Trailbreaker or Reflector.
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Post by shaxper on Feb 15, 2005 20:54:38 GMT -5
Seing a similar thread like this on another board, actually opened my eyes up to what Takara was really doing with their pre-Dreamwave bookstyle reissues. Think about it: Convoy -- Megatron (16S) Ultra Magnus -- Sixshot I don't want to pair up Hot Rodimus and Starscream, 'cause they barely met each other, but the lineage of releaseing heros with their archnemesis would probably have led to a Galvatron reissue to counter Rodimus Convoy -- think about it!... I wonder what happened, since Takara opted to start the Dreamwave books... I got the sense that they were just reissuing the most popular characters. Overlord definitely took center stage in later Japanese G1. Killing Ultra Magnus is no small feat. In all honesty though, I've tried, time and again, to make sense of Takara's reissue choices and can't. Here are just a few that made me go WTF: 1. Inferno (who really wanted him back?) 2. Mini-bots (I guess someone must have liked them, but...) 3. Astrotrain (Memorable character, yes, but there are about a billion toys I would have liked to have seen reissued before him) 4. Blitzwing (would ANYONE have cared if this one had never come back?) 5. Insecticons (I can see the demand, but so many TFs are in greater demand. Besides, unlike many other vintage TFs, these guys could still be found cheap) 6. Perceptor (At least we're back to earlier G1, but what an unusual / unpopular choice) |
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Post by Fighbird on Feb 16, 2005 4:17:32 GMT -5
I got the sense that they were just reissuing the most popular characters. Overlord definitely took center stage in later Japanese G1. Killing Ultra Magnus is no small feat. ;D Man, you're really excited about that Overlord, eh? I'm sure you meant Sixshot here... All very good points, and just to be a miser, I've made some counter-points: 1. The mold was was still hot. They had just done him for the limitied edition reissue, and Hasbro was breathing down their neck to get him out in the States as well. 2. The keychains were popular, and with the most popular mold ('bee) still being in working condition, why not retool him a bit. Add some of the rarer Japanese releases (Cosmos, Warpath) and pack a few in a box (to justify the package size and price point) and presto. 3. Memorable, yes, but most importantly a Destron to counter all the prior (mostly) Cybertron releases. 4. No. But he makes for one helluwa Diaclone repaint. ;D 5. Again with the Destron forces fortification. Takara's plan: Buy more of the sets to build a clone army (aka Cannon-Fudder). 6. Okay... even this one I can't justify... And just for good measure: I'm just being argumentative here. I see little to no system in Takara's choices either. |
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Feb 16, 2005 14:11:08 GMT -5
I can understand Blitzwing. It's one of the best triple changers and has some substantial diecast content. That, and you have cross-over diaclone fans. Perceptor seems like an odd choice to me too. |
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Post by shaxper on Feb 16, 2005 19:29:49 GMT -5
All very good points, and just to be a miser, I've made some counter-points: I know it's just for argument's sake, but arguments are fun By that logic though, there were several others that had recently been given the limited reissue treatment, all of which would have made better choices. Maybe there was an overstock issue? The key chains were produced in conjunction with Hasbro, not Takara, so they probably had an insignificant effect on Takara's target Japanese audience, unless they surfaced on Yahoo Japan in large numbers. True, but there were more jets to choose from, and a Reflector or Devastator reissue would have pleased a LOT of people too. And ehobby will gladly give you figures on how many of those repaints actually sold Still, Reflector and Devastator were/are in much greater demand. No one's satisfied with Devy's KO editions. Ha! |
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