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Post by godaikincolector74 on Nov 28, 2010 14:43:08 GMT -5
So, there was a deluxe Popy Tet 28 for sale out of Japan, and it was real nice, minus not having any missiles, small boys or tech bots, but it did have all magnetic panels, rocket pack, and ax on head, but not the other two. He was asking 1400, and I was like I can't see myself buying one for that much, if it is not complete, mattes not as it sold in like two days, these guys are definitely not growing on trees, lol....
Anyhow, I told him that I saw 2 nice Tet Popy out of South America, which one went for 800, minus one boy an 6 missiles, and the other was just missing some mssiles, and went for 1700, in one day. He told me that those were fraud auctions, and he had did research on it. His friend supposedly bought the 800 dollar one, receiving nothing, tough break....
Ebay is kinda like that old tree in the Flash Gordon movie, with the poison worm which lives inside tree trunk. And as a test of courage, they play a sort of Russian roulette game, by sticking arm into the holes of tree trunk, hoping they don't stick it in hole where the poison slug worm beast lives, roflmao!!!!!
I know this guy knew what he was talking about, as I mentioned South America only, and he came back and mentioned Chile, the exact spot for these Tet 28 so called deluxe bots. Like dad always says "If something looks to good to be true, it probably is".....
Anyhow just wanted to warn all, it may save some of us some big money, by being alerted to such fraud, take care all, and happy collecting....
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Post by repairtechjon on Nov 28, 2010 16:23:10 GMT -5
Yes, good looking out.
We've seen these fraud deals come up alot. And yeah usually , though not always, SouthAmerica.
T-28 is one of the higher priced, and desired items in this hobby, so it get's the targeting form scammers the most. You'll see the same pics reused often, as a dead giveaway.
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Post by Chen on Nov 28, 2010 17:40:32 GMT -5
Yeah I've been buying less and less of Ebay and just buying from online stores like Angolz or Toy-wave or whatever. You may end up paying a bit more but the reassurance that your not gonna get ripped off more then offsets it. To many scammer's on Ebay now with artificially inflated ratings, although vintage items like that you pretty much have to get off Ebay or a fellow collector which in that case you take your chances.
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Post by magengar on Nov 28, 2010 19:52:56 GMT -5
Every time you see items like that on ebay, Do this: Click and SAVE the pics. Then place the item on your Watch list... Then continue browsing... If you run into more auctions selling the same or similar items, OPEN the jpeg of the Saved item Image and compare it to all the next similar items you see..... look at the environment setting where the item is shown-- like, in a room or on a table, or outside on a porch, or positioned in some weird way, or next to another object, or even inside some mysterious orifice...... .....if you see any familiar similarities between YOUR saved pic and all them other ebay pics, THAT should be a red flag. Sometimes them ebay scammers will use borrowed pics off the web or from someone else's photo display of the item; when THEIR item may truly be Damaged or Missing Parts. So, ya gotta beware. There's a VERY SLIM chance that a seller doesn't have a camera, so- he'll borrow images off the internet anyway, to show what he has. But That would be highly Unusual-- because Anyone who plans to sell their stuff on ebay will find a means to supply their OWN photos of their item... like, borrowing a friend's camera to snap pics. Got pics, but don't know how to upload 'em? Ask a friend to upload 'em for you. But DO beware of scammers' ebay tricks. And, LOOK VERY KEENLY and CLOSELY at them pics on ebay! You'll be glad you did.  zozo-Magengar |
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Post by godaikincolector74 on Nov 28, 2010 23:51:45 GMT -5
Makes since Jon, it being the most expensive, sought after an all, wonder why we don't see more fraud for Voltes V, Combattra, Godmarz, or Daltanias, they don't seem to go cheap, lol....
Chen, I agree 100%. I don't mind paying a bit more for peace of mind of knowing it will arrive exactly as described, and I have never checked out those store, so I will have to go do some window shopping....
And all very good ideas Magengar, like my dad always says "If your gonna be dumb, you better be tough.", lol. And by doing some simple research like that, one could save themselves from big mistake....
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Post by godaikincolector74 on Nov 28, 2010 23:56:38 GMT -5
When I typed in www.toywave.com, I got a female toy store, lol.... I did find the Angolz store, looks cool on first inspection.... They have that new pre-order Dalt gx-59, and I like that new look and color scheme, but wow 265 bucks seems to be the going rate on him for a while, and any less someone will be taking a loss un-less they have a good wholesale connection.... |
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Post by repairtechjon on Nov 29, 2010 0:27:24 GMT -5
Just a note on this scam topic, I learned when sellersonwheels did the Yappy estate auction, and the T28 pics got "borrowed" at least twice, is that on ebay, if you want to get the fraud yanked, you as a buyer, or window shopper can't do anything, since ebay does allow the "sharing" of photos as Tony said above.
What you have to do is save the link, contact the original seller that you know the pics came from (not hard if the two listings are close in time) and have them be the one to put the squeal to ebay. Ebay "service dept." informed me of this when I tried to blow some whistles.
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Post by Chen on Nov 29, 2010 6:40:13 GMT -5
When I typed in www.toywave.com, I got a female toy store, lol.... I did find the Angolz store, looks cool on first inspection.... They have that new pre-order Dalt gx-59, and I like that new look and color scheme, but wow 265 bucks seems to be the going rate on him for a while, and any less someone will be taking a loss un-less they have a good wholesale connection.... It's www.toy-wave.com plus I've been buying from www.amiami.jp/shop/?set=english a lot lately they beat everybody on price. |
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Post by mecha-mania on Nov 29, 2010 22:30:07 GMT -5
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Post by godaikincolector74 on Nov 30, 2010 0:44:53 GMT -5
I have not seen any companies that make a DX knockoff Tet 28, but I was wondering as well if they existed....
I was thinking, it could be a possible good bus if someone would get the molds for the parts to the large Tet, missiles, tech robot, boy, hatchets, etc. So as one could make repo parts for them. I bet many would not mind a bit to toss 100 bucks at a nice repo set of Tet parts, if they had nice one with just back-pack rocket an armor that they had obviously invested much in. I mean repo parts would obviously not be the same as original complete set, but next best thing perhaps....
Mecha I have looked at that one, but repaired arm, and it looks like it has been to war an back. How does a deluxe toy made for display mainly, get that much wear, lol. The hatchet in head, has even lost all the chrome paint. Must have been a mean rich spoiled kids toy. If I am gonna toss 1000 plus at one of these guys personally, it is gonna have to be way nicer than that one, and much more complete....
The tough thing about Tet 28, good complete ones come along so rarely at reasonable price, one almost needs to save up the money and set aside, for when one comes up, otherwise aquiring one of the level i seek will be impossible. Thinkin tax returns good core saving start....
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Post by mecha-mania on Nov 30, 2010 1:11:41 GMT -5
Fully agree with you on that. Might as well save up for a more mint and complete piece, the one in the link has neither, and more so, coming from the land of repros  |
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Post by repairtechjon on Nov 30, 2010 1:12:20 GMT -5
Mecha, thanks for keeping an eye out, but unless an auction has obvious scam signals, please PM someone and ask seller's background first before throwing up live auctions on any thread.
In that particular case, it's generally high for the condition. Be patient and you'll see whether prices get bitten on or not.
But that seller is well known, and been nice to deal with by several of us.
As to KOs? The original, detail intensive tooling was deemed too expensive to keep the Chokinzoku line going back in the day. Would have been so cool if others in T-28's scale and build-type were made, huh? There's a good article about this history online.
The quality, and details, of a bootleg would just stand out way too much, though there have been some plastic "stand ins" just like there are for Voltes V, and some other biggies.
Save up. Yes that is the strategy. They do come up, but they are watched by all, and don't go cheap.
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Post by mecha-mania on Nov 30, 2010 9:34:01 GMT -5
reason for doing so is because the place where i came from, have a pretty long and sophisticated history of business scams (of all types and levels! LOL) between my country and china (which i will not dwell into ;D), hence the caution. but ok, i know what you mean, thanks for the tip, will not quote under such circumstances in the future btw, since we are on the topic of T-28, officially, how many maintenance robots and red missiles does it comes with the godaikin version? |
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Post by magengar on Nov 30, 2010 12:05:27 GMT -5
I'd probably buy a repro if it REEEALLY apeals to me in good detail
and quality, or just as another piece to bash with.
If the repro were made by anyone Here at RJ, I'd buy it as a way
of "keeping it in the family" for the RJ member who is selling the repro.
He or she put a lotta love, work, and energy into making it, plus buying all
the supplies needed... therefore I wouldn't mind helping fellow-members
here support their contributions to this hobby, whenever I can.
zozo-Magengar
PS: Damn!!! I missed celebrating my
6666th and 6667th post! ;D
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Post by sal7 on Dec 4, 2010 22:47:16 GMT -5
Me still dreaming to have one tet 28
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Post by Erik Sjoen on Dec 5, 2010 10:18:43 GMT -5
John's right. Popy cancelled the Chokinzoku line before it even got to take off. The Tesujin (SG-01) as some of you guys know at the "Godaikin", was far to expensive to produce and sell. I'll have to look back at some old Terebikun magazines from 81, but I believe the retail price was something like 9800Y. More than a Jumbo Machinder at the time. I guess the isles of Seibu and the like had shelves of them just sitting there, while the standard Popy/Takatoku/Clover etc gokin stuff sold really well.... Sad really..
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Post by Erik Sjoen on Dec 5, 2010 10:21:03 GMT -5
Uh, yeah, repro..... Never gonna happen. Either way it would most likely be a "reissue" anyway, and Bandai would most likely do a SUPER limited run for a Taimashi Nation event or something. Either way, never going to happen.
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Post by Erik Sjoen on Dec 5, 2010 10:26:24 GMT -5
"The tough thing about Tet 28, good complete ones come along so rarely at reasonable price"
I totally disagree with this. First the term "reasonable price" is relative to ones income. And second, the prices now days are SUPER LOW on average. Even 5 years ago they were going for double... I remember in the early 2Ks we were seing them sell for up to $5K for MIMB.....
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Post by mecha-mania on Dec 6, 2010 22:40:36 GMT -5
i have not seen a SG-01 in ebay for a looooong while, so not sure of the going rate. but generally, is there a big price difference between the godaikin T-28 and the Popy SG-01 assuming both are complete and mint?
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Post by Erik Sjoen on Dec 7, 2010 12:07:11 GMT -5
"i have not seen a SG-01 in ebay for a looooong while, so not sure of the going rate. but generally, is there a big price difference between the godaikin T-28 and the Popy SG-01 assuming both are complete and mint?"
Almost double the price. Now, with the economy, over here and in Japan you could probably get a Popy SG-01 for $2500?? maybe?? I don't watch ebay often, so I can't say, but on YJP you'll see them pop up..
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