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Post by thebigr on Jan 20, 2011 2:09:08 GMT -5
is there any way to tell from the box which ones are good & bad?
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Post by quinjester on Jan 20, 2011 7:52:00 GMT -5
No, short of comparing the toy's designation with the list above from Jenius' site. Yamato doesn't put a sticker on their products that says "this will break itself", unfortunately ;P.
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Post by mojacko on Jan 20, 2011 20:10:27 GMT -5
maybe yamato should put a sticker "buy @ your own risk"!!! :-)
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Post by quinjester on Jan 20, 2011 21:27:33 GMT -5
They do!  |
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Post by thebigr on Jan 21, 2011 13:52:31 GMT -5
No, short of comparing the toy's designation with the list above from Jenius' site. Yamato doesn't put a sticker on their products that says "this will break itself", unfortunately ;P. naw really? Didn't know that after all these years collecting. They should start doing that  ...but sometimes UPC barcodes, "made in ____", and box variations can help sometimes. Those designations are pretty vague to the rest of us who don't troll MW obsessively. How can one tell the difference between a v1 and v2 if the box is exactly the same? Oh, well. This looked like a cool piece but I think I'm just going to pass and get another valkyrie instead. |
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Post by quinjester on Jan 21, 2011 14:37:35 GMT -5
No, short of comparing the toy's designation with the list above from Jenius' site. Yamato doesn't put a sticker on their products that says "this will break itself", unfortunately ;P. naw really? Didn't know that after all these years collecting. They should start doing that ...but sometimes UPC barcodes, "made in ____", and box variations can help sometimes. Those designations are pretty vague to the rest of us who don't troll MW obsessively. How can one tell the difference between a v1 and v2 if the box is exactly the same? Oh, well. This looked like a cool piece but I think I'm just going to pass and get another valkyrie instead. Well, the V2 simply refers to ALL of the current model 1/60 VF-1 valkyries. If it's a V1, it's in a totally different box, is visibly packaged in fighter mode, and came out about 10 years ago. It also shares zero parts with the recent V2's. The problem lies in the fact that, as mentioned at the above list, most of the first releases in the new series (V2) of 1/60 VF-1 valkyries had a defect which would cause their shoulder hinges to break themselves. It wasn't a matter of where they were made or something that could be identified as a variant in a single production, it was simply all of any given production run (for example, I have a Hikaru VF-1A; his shoulders have spontaneously broken after being on display on my shelf for about a year) that were affected. If you want to get a Hikaru VF-1A, it's very unlikely that you will be able to get one that either doesn't have broken shoulders or wont have them break somewhere down the line. ALL of that said, supposedly it's been fixed and it's not a problem that has ever effected the 1/48 scale valks, so any recent production item should be safe. The valk list from anymoon (linked above, twice no less!) is useful for that. |
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Post by 00silvergt on Feb 15, 2011 13:36:51 GMT -5
Quin, unfortunately, after experiencing this problem, personally, I did my research and it seems that most, if not all 1/60 valks are affected. I was able to obtain a replacement set from HLJ, but since I have not installed it yet I don't know if it fixes it yet. At MW, it seems that it does. However, I have read posts from some that claim the shoulder joints were pretty much the same. At first the suspicion was that the dowels that were used was more coarse and that smoother dowels were needed. There are also some speculation that it was simply the plastic used for the shoulder joints. No one is certain, but there are rumors that Yamato, being bombarded by requests for replacement have notified their Chinese factories to use a different material, since the current material was shoddy. I am hoping that is what I received as a replacement- otherwise, it fixes nothing. I have a thread on board that explains the process of replacement. But I will end this post with this, there are no one model that you can be sure is safe, except perhaps for new releases, as in released in 2010. Otherwise, you can almost assume, yours is defective. For some, it is painfully clear before you even open the box. For others like me, required to go through the transformation process and being mindful of the shoulder joints. Overall, the 1:60 is a great toy, with an Achilles heel, in poor engineering in the shoulder joints. The good news is that it only cost me $13 to replace and three weeks of waiting (but again, I'm not sure if it really is fixed since it is a problem derived from poor engineering.). I know that sounds a lot like the car insurance commercials...The good news is that I save a bundle on my car insurance by switching to Geico...but unfortunately it is the only recourse, outside of skipping the line, which would be unfortunate, since it really is quite a beautiful Valk.
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Post by ancer on Feb 15, 2011 19:48:35 GMT -5
I agree the 1/60 do look great . I've been debating selling mine for awhile. I just don't know. They look so good , though the
shoulders are a let down .
The inner turmoil continues...
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Post by mojacko on Feb 15, 2011 21:40:53 GMT -5
shameless plug: im in the for cheap valks which will be basically be used for custom purposes.
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