|
|
Post by txjumbo on Nov 7, 2011 15:43:56 GMT -5
Hey everybody. I've been a member of the boards for some time now but do not get a chance to post often. As some of you might know, I've been kicking around the idea of selling off my entire JM collection for some time now. I love JM's and have put a lot of time money and effort into my collection. However, I am now at the point to where I'm going to have to start shelling out the bigger bucks to advance and to be honest, I just can't see myself doing it. That as well as the fact that you rarely see anything on Ebay anymore, so I would either have to start working on the Japanese auctions or make a trip over there, and just not sure if I want to continue on that route. It almost gets to the point to where you have to ask yourself, would I like two new Jumbos or a new roof for the house. The idea to sell has been and is a point of huge internal conflict for me. One of the problems is that when you have invested literally decades into a collection, it's easy to lose track of what it's worth. I know just about what I paid for each piece, however I have no idea what some of these would go for today. Any help that could be given on an apprasial for my collection would be great. If you do not feel comfortable stating a price on the site please feel free to pm me. Also, what would be the best route to sale? The entire collection or piece by piece? Attachments:
|
|
|
|
Post by mikedeco on Nov 7, 2011 16:18:58 GMT -5
Always sad to hear a fellow collector selling his stuff, but sometimes you have to make choices and it's certainly for good reason.
As for selling it, it might be extremely hard to find somebody buying the whole lot. And you will have to make an effort of the price for the lot.
So selling it pieces by pieces will be easier, maybe much more work for you but you can expect to sell all of them.
Now you can decide to sell the one that are more easy to find first so if you ever decide to come back to this, the hard ones are already there. Or you can decide to sell the higher priced pieces first to get your cash back quicker. That's a bit your call. Or sell all of them at the same time.
As for the price, I can try to get you a quote in pm when I have some time if you want. But based on one single pict it's hard to say for some.
|
|
|
|
Post by txjumbo on Nov 7, 2011 16:43:09 GMT -5
That would be great, and again....no rush...as this is something that even if I do go through with it, will not be done right away. Like I said I'm very on the fence about it.
As you can see I am far from a perfectionist, which used to be a positive as for collecting, and I thought it would continue to be even when I go to the harder to find ones, but let's face it...when you start getting to that certain level....even with flawed specimens, you end up having to shell out a LOT.
I can tell you the boxed 3 are the Unifives, The rest are all flawed in some fashion or another, Combattler has the wrong arms and is missing his head antenna. Getta Lygar is missing his flower arm. Tryder is missing his fists...etc.
|
|
|
|
Post by bourno on Nov 7, 2011 17:32:20 GMT -5
Best with either decision you make for keeping or selling.
I would love to get a couple of your flawed ones, but am sure you could get much more from someone else as even the more common rare ones, bring decent $$$.
Hope a couple guys here can you a hand for the pieces. Nice collection you have put together over time. Bests.
|
|
|
|
Post by KingboyD on Nov 7, 2011 18:02:17 GMT -5
I also agree that selling them piece by piece will be your best bet. But I don't necessarily follow your logic. You are selling them because you could not feasibly expand your collection. I can understand getting to the point where you can't add to it so you stop buying. But that does not automatically equate to selling them off since you are at a stalemate. Why not just keep them and enjoy them for what you have? I also understand that as a collector, there is always an overpowering desire to get more. But if that is not an option, then, again, at least appreciate what you have. If you need money for other things, then selling makes sense. But you said that you just want to sell because future earnings would be better spent on home repairs and such rather than new purchases. So why does selling off your existing collection factor into the equation? I suspect that maybe there is more than you originally indicated. But I guess I am just saying that I think you should just keep your collection since it brought you so much joy to this point in time.  Regardless of what you decide, good luck! I know I would love a few fix-me-upers, though these are probably outside my budget too. |
|
|
|
Post by willohio on Nov 7, 2011 21:03:26 GMT -5
While I think you should keep your choicest pieces and either focus on "completing the ones you have" or you could make trades with other collectors. Maybe they are tired of a few of their pieces. And want a change of scenery for a while.
I see a Dragun without a Star Shooter, 9 axes and 9 stars. Your Daitetsujin-17 have his Aircraft parts and ships? You already mentioned the missing parts for Combattler. I see a lot of time you could spend to working on completing and updating what you currently have....
Maybe you just want to move on... The thrill was in the attainable hunt. but I digress...
I'll give you my opinions on what I think things are worth just because speculation is fun.
Starting from the back...
U5
-Daiku Maryu - $250 - $350
-Mazinger Z - $250 - $350
-Great Mazinger - $350 - $450 (with Jet Scrander you bum!!!)
-Garada K7 - $150
Popy
6 back row Popy's $1k each with the exception:
-Getter Robo G - $750 loose---\
-Getter Posiedon - $600 loose |-- as a set probably worth even more
-Getter Liger - $ 700 loose----/
-Daitetsujin-17 $800 loose
Mattel
-Godzilla (assuming no cracks or damage) $150-$210
-Dragun $80-$110
-Daimos $150-$250
-Early edition Raydeen(but not 1st edition) $80-110
-Goldorak $280-$350
Clover/Bullmark
-Aura Battler Dunbine - $600
-Getter Robo Go - $350-$450
So roughly... carry the one... divided by pie...
11,3k (using lower figures where I had more than one price per piece)
So it's probably closer to $13-15k. I've only ever seen a few Trider 7's, Combattlers and Tetsujin 28. But I've never seen a popy GoLion on auction before.
For whatever that's worth...
Will
|
|
|
|
Post by moop on Nov 7, 2011 22:11:43 GMT -5
I love that there is a Brave Max in there. He fit's in quite well with the jumbos
|
|
|
|
Post by txjumbo on Nov 8, 2011 17:52:59 GMT -5
Thank you everybody for helping me on this. Actually I needed the info for a couple of reasons, 1.) if I do decide to sale I need to know what they are worth now, as I've said some of them I bought for $200 bucks 7-8 years ago and are worth more now.
ALSO, I am in the process of getting insurance on my entire collection, I love JM's but also have carded SW, GIJOE, MASTERS, and you name it from most major and minor 80's toy lines. So I need to have a good idea of what the collection is worth total for those purposes.
I LOVE my JM's...you cannot dedicate yourself to a hobby for so long without a true love for it....that feeling you get when you score a JM you have been waiting for, for so long...it's awesome.
BUT...at the same time I'm very a much an "all or nothing" type collector on many things and I realize that when you start to get to a certain point with JM's, you WILL have to spend amounts that I know I will never shell out, so that is where I'm getting to with the hobby. I have a few $400-$600 specimens I'd like to get...but then you go to the next higher step on the ladder and I just don't see it getting to that level for me.
I even have MUCH lower standards than most collectors, but you still cannot avoid the crazy high prices. For example, I never look for perfect boxed ones and I DO NOT consider ANYTHING under 24-22in a JM....I have no interest in Robocon, or any of the enemies for that matter due the height issue....so that knocks a LOT out, but you still have your Battle Fever, God Sigma, Leopoldon....those will NEVER be in the range I'm looking at capping off at....so that is a major reason for the possibility of selling.
Thanks again for all your help....and if the time ever comes....this board will be the first to get the offers....
|
|
|
|
Post by txjumbo on Nov 9, 2011 13:34:17 GMT -5
I love that there is a Brave Max in there. He fit's in quite well with the jumbos He sure does. and if you notice he has the evil Megatron head on. There was an episode of the cartoon where Megatron turned into this huge floating head and took control of Maximus's body...they actually made the toy of the head to scale with the Maximus toy. It looks really evil on it, though you can't see it from the pic. It may have been in the comics where that took place...I'm just not sure...I know the giant floating head was in Beast Machines. |
|
|
|
Post by prostockjohn on Nov 9, 2011 13:48:11 GMT -5
If you need to sell, I understand. But otherwise, I get excited about completing my loose figures. I can understand how some of the ones you want are now $400-1000 but there's always hope.  |
|
|
|
Post by Erik Sjoen on Nov 9, 2011 23:37:57 GMT -5
Sorry Will, but your numbers are WAY off man....
I don't know where you're getting these prices but we have (or Dave has) cataloged every single Jumbo sale in the last 3-4 years on YJP/Ebay and we have a log. For example you can buy a Getter Go MIB for 20,000Y right this second, not $350 -$450 for a loose one. Dunbine is a $300 in box Jumbo as of couple of months ago when one sold for about that much, not $600. The D17 has the green wings which means it's the Taiwan bootleg. Not sure what that goes for, maybe $150?
Every single piece here, much like txjumbo said, is pedestrian. Combattlers, T28s can be had loose any day of the week pretty much on YJP. The real gems here are the Dangard and the Tryder. Unfortunately the Tryder is not in to good of shape, but I'm sure it would bring some good interest on evilbay. The Dangard, loose might go for $7-800 here in the states? Can't really see the condition, but the fists aren't original, and it's missing the spears and wings. The Popy Golion should probably be lumped in with the other two. $500-$700 especially if it has the green missiles.
Just my two cents.
|
|
|
|
Post by Erik Sjoen on Nov 9, 2011 23:42:25 GMT -5
BTW, great collection man. Shame to see you let it go, if you do. Anyway you look at it you're going to come out ahead based on the silly prices people pay these days. I too am lucky I got many of mine before sh*t got so crazy. No way I would pay thousands for my God Mars, Dangard, Sun Vulcan, Mach Baron, Battle Fever etc. what folks are throwing down these days for BEATERS.. I'm pretty much priced out myself so I sympathize. The few standard ones I need are crazy expensive and the robot factory ones I need never even show up for sale. For example, I haven't seen a Daidenjin for sale in years... Sad really.
Anyway, best of luck to you in whatever you decide man. Cheers!
E
|
|
|
|
Post by willohio on Nov 10, 2011 0:08:30 GMT -5
we have (or Dave has) cataloged every single Jumbo sale in the last 3-4 years on YJP/Ebay and we have a log. Any chance you can share this with us? ;D It's available for download on CollectionDx site. It's broke down into catagories With lots of photos. It's a pretty valuable resource. As far as those prices listed by me (I at no point state anywhere that I am an expert or even an authority - as I said, speculation is fun) are all based off of (American EBay prices) and private sales I've seen. I've never bought anything from YAJ. But I suspect the prices you list aren't taking into account the cost for the middle man and shipping. That Dunbine you mention currently for $260(20k yen) you can add $100 for services, shipping. There's one on E-Bay right now BIN for $499+$50 ship so there you go. However I believe your knowledge and numbers are much closer to the average going rate than I could ever be for the Popy stuff. The Mattel and U5 I believe I am in range of the current going for prices this past year discounting the fluke auctions. The Taiwan D17 usually has a different sticker set now-a-days. But it goes for around $100-$150. I've seen your amazing collection Erik, Dave's, Mike D's and a few others and I don't know if I'll ever reach those ranks of a collector where I'd call them pedestrian. Let alone afford them. But maybe that's the divide I am not, nor will I ever be a hardcore collector. I just cannot justify the high cost/perceived value of some of these toys... But I digress... And thanks for the corrections. It's nice to see some of the big players around here again. Will |
|
|
|
Post by txjumbo on Nov 10, 2011 12:07:20 GMT -5
BTW, great collection man. Shame to see you let it go, if you do. Anyway you look at it you're going to come out ahead based on the silly prices people pay these days. I too am lucky I got many of mine before sh*t got so crazy. No way I would pay thousands for my God Mars, Dangard, Sun Vulcan, Mach Baron, Battle Fever etc. what folks are throwing down these days for BEATERS.. I'm pretty much priced out myself so I sympathize. The few standard ones I need are crazy expensive and the robot factory ones I need never even show up for sale. For example, I haven't seen a Daidenjin for sale in years... Sad really. Anyway, best of luck to you in whatever you decide man. Cheers! E I do understand why some of the prices have gone to the crazy extremes...due to the fact that you just do not see them on Ebay anymore. Does anybody have a clue as to why that is? I've not been able to figure it out, I've never been a seller on Ebay only a buyer, but I have friends that do and they have told me that in the last few years things have gotten VERY difficult for sellers.....so I'm wondering if that is why you no longer see higher end/ rare/high demand JMs on there anymore. I do think I could most likely get a few more and possibly renew my love for the hobby if I started to look at YJP...but I have not a clue on how to do that...my understanding is that you have to work with a middle man of sorts which adds to the price. That is another issue that has made me think things over...I'm really at a stand still for collecting....I now go 3-5 years in between JM buys. The thrill kind of goes away when you have no source for new specimens. |
|
|
|
Post by mikedeco on Nov 10, 2011 18:46:41 GMT -5
Well, I'm not as radical as Erik, but he's right, those prices are a bit too heavy and need to be balanced.
And at one point when talking about prices, we have to make the difference on how much we buy them and how much we can get for them. It's true that when you buy one you have extra charges like shipping and sometimes middelmen, but those extras are not going into the pocket of the seller. Just to recenter to the main question here.
Like I was saying, some are hard to judge from a single pict. It's true that the two main pieces are the Tryder and the Danguard. I'm not really following Tryder's price but it seems that he's pretty valuable when he's MIB and not that expensive when he's loose and uncomplete. As for Danguard he's really popular and some people are always ready to buy even an uncomplete one. I would say around 600$ for that one.
T28 price is really depending on the fact that he have his rockets in the back. If he does it can be around 650$, if not, more like 500$ or a bit less.
Is the getta one missing his rubber pants or is it the mexican version with a custom cape and a Dragun left arm?? It's hard to say on the pict. The thing with that one, it's almost more interesting today to get a mexican version.
One of the nice piece there is Lyger. This one also have lots of sucess, but you can find a really nice loose one for around 750$, so considering that he's missing his left arm and the yellow cone on the wings, you can drop this price to 450$ or something.
The Dragun looks like a first edition or even a Popy, it's impossible to see the difference between those two, and if it's a Popy, well, there's not shooting star gimmick. But his little cape seems missing.
Anyway, it's really a nice collection and it's sad when people are selling their stuff. For me there's a lot of potential to upgrade some of them or try to fix them. Fixing stuff might be a good way to try to go further with your collection without launching too much money. And for a clear idea of price, well it's almost impossible to give you real numbers as you never know what can happen, even the numbers I'm giving might be off, but it's maybe better to think a bit lower to have good surprises instead and hoping for a lot and be really dissapointed.
As for today's price they're really crazy and it's becoming really hard for most of us, this year was full of nice stuff for sale and strangely I have the impression that this past few years, there's more and more great stuff for sale. Ok, this year was special with a big collector unloading all his collection but beside him there was great great stuff, and MIB popy's are always selling well.
|
|
|
|
Post by rodman75 on Aug 11, 2012 1:48:44 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Txjumbo ever decided to sell his jumbos?
|
|
