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Post by boricua on Jul 3, 2012 11:01:19 GMT -5
and where is the official information from banpresto that says that? ill believe it when i see it.
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Post by xiombarg on Jul 3, 2012 12:38:43 GMT -5
So I'm just curious...
For you guys that feel a strong kinship for the meaning of "super robot", what exactly are the defining differences for you?
Example: Size? Does it have to be gattai, or can mecha be a super robot? Time period? Unknown power source? Can something that transforms be a super robot?...
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Post by magengar on Jul 3, 2012 13:27:39 GMT -5
Bandai's gonna break out with an SRC/SOC version of the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car, complete with propellers and pair of expandable bat-wings pivoting from the sides of the fenders. ;D  zozo-mag I hate those stupid battleships. |
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Post by xiombarg on Jul 3, 2012 13:40:51 GMT -5
..and life size! ;D
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Post by quinjester on Jul 3, 2012 13:43:59 GMT -5
and where is the official information from banpresto that says that? ill believe it when i see it. Every single Super Robot War video game ever made has used this classification. Weissritter and Alteisen are specifically "Personal Troopers" in official Banpresto/SRW literature. If you would like there is additional compiled information here: superrobotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Banpresto_Originals_TerminologyAs a side note, I would be 100% behind a Super Robot chogokin Scopedog release.  |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 3, 2012 14:37:40 GMT -5
Only if the pilot is removable and fully artculated ;D
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Post by nikodiablo on Jul 3, 2012 19:25:32 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for the SRC releases of R-1, R-2 and R-3. Bandai had the prototypes shown last year. Where are they?
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 3, 2012 19:50:54 GMT -5
Maybe, just maybe, they have been moved to the SOC line - for a Combiner SRX!!! ;D
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Post by B- on Jul 3, 2012 21:17:35 GMT -5
So I'm just curious... For you guys that feel a strong kinship for the meaning of "super robot", what exactly are the defining differences for you? Example: Size? Does it have to be gattai, or can mecha be a super robot? Time period? Unknown power source? Can something that transforms be a super robot?... For me its robots who had animes and were the heroes of said animes which aired between 1972-1984.There are a few exceptions after 1984,but VERY few for me anyhow.Mazinkaiser would be among those,as well as Shin Getter Robo etc.Anything after that is pure fanservice to the realSuperobots{Gekiganger},or all share the "modern look"which is a composite of gundam and grey sheet metal scrap,put together in a haphazard way.lol The original Superrobots were beautiful.Ill compare it to automobiles,the 70s cars were very cool,and the the guys who created them were artists,the cars of today are ugly style-less cars whos looks play second fiddle to how "green" the car is .70s design and early 80s design in everything revolved around looks,bright colors etc.Today all cars are grey and bland,thats why people go bananas over retro muscle cars.I think the culture of today and the era plays a big part in robot design The demographic and culture of the time had some reflection on those robots{bright colors,funky design of the 70s,and the early re-electronic craze of the early 80s. Ok Ive ranted,but that is what Super Robots are to me.Bright colors,slick classic UNIQUE design and of a bygone era.Tell me one Super Robot today that comes close to being a Mazinger of our era,NONE,most if not all are quickly forgotten{GaoGaiger anyone?}.BUT that doesnt mean some cant be created now,but they would have to share the same qualities as the classics and their animes.Cool pilots with flashy uniforms,funky bright colored old school design,a host of wild weapons with even wilder names,and a gaggle of 3 faced alien villains to harras them. My opinion as crazy as it may sound on what a Super Robot should be. |
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Post by quinjester on Jul 3, 2012 21:31:39 GMT -5
put together in a very *friendly* personty manner to attract style challenged people,sorry its my opinion,and Im as welcome to it as anyone elses opinion. Lol, nice "opinion". In the interest of good manners I'll refrain from giving my own on this subject. Getting away from troll opinions, the way I see the SRC line is more of a reaction to companies like CM's corp, whose own Brave Gokin line was producing oddball, lesser known and unexpected figures. Things like the Aestivalis mech sets, or Gokin Patlabor figures, or even magnetic mecha like Barratack (for all intents and purposes a direct shot across Bandai's SOC bow with the SOC Jeeg). For the longest time my line was that "CM's does the things Bandai would NEVER do", and yet now Bandai has been using the SRC line to produce a multitude of unexpected, lower profile releases that I would never have thought possible. Meanwhile, the CM's Brave Gokin line is almost stymied - I'm having difficulty thinking of their last major release. I think if the SRC line continues its original intent of doing low budget, lower profile (and thus smaller market) releases, it's right on track for where I'm hoping it'll be. Bring on the Super Robot Chogokin Arbalests and Aquarions and Scopedogs and Maschinen Kreigers and Break Blade figures - I'll take 'em all (with maybe the exception of the Break Blade stuff - I've got too much invested in Sen-ti-nel's stuff by now). And yes, give me a Scopedog with a removable Chirico figure. Sure, he'll be miniscule and probably nowhere near as poseable as my microman or yamato version, but my shelf is aching for a smaller scale, diecast scopedog to do battle with my other small SOCs, SOCSpecs, and SRCs. |
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Post by xiombarg on Jul 4, 2012 0:50:42 GMT -5
For me a super robot is any robot that makes me say to myself, "That's super!". ;D
Honestly though, that's about as far as the term goes for me unless talking about the historical aspects of toy robot collecting, as in the "super robot era" which I see as beginning with Popy Mazinger GA-01 and ending with the onset of the Bandai HCM line in 1984. Beyond that, using the term "super robot" is just a loose description that basically means "really big robot" in my estimation.
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Post by kaeruze on Jul 4, 2012 14:09:38 GMT -5
I think the Super Robot concept is the japanese technology oriented response to the american superheroes. Super Robots bear bright colors with simple geometrical shapes, just like superheroes' suits, and they are also considered as iconic emblems of good in the stories while real robots are most of the time used for doing good deeds or basically fighting for a good cause but do not "embody" goodness. I'd call a robot "super" if it's an icon of good and wears some fancy superhero tights  |
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Post by actionawesome on Jul 19, 2012 23:10:23 GMT -5
Do we know what the next release after Solar Aquarion Evol is? Kinda bummed that is the October release considering it looks so similiar to the other one.
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Post by Gold on Jul 19, 2012 23:56:59 GMT -5
Yeah, the line has kind of slowed down, we went from 2 bots monthly to a bot a month, sometimes every other month. I blame the economy.
Bandai's got one heck of a backlog character lineup in this line, And yet no solid announcement when said backlog is going to get actual production release. I don't mind if they don't release any new reveals for now, as long as the backlog gets done first (crosses fingers for the GGG mechs and R-Trooper series)
Gold
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Post by actionawesome on Jul 20, 2012 0:16:03 GMT -5
Yeah, the line has kind of slowed down, we went from 2 bots monthly to a bot a month, sometimes every other month. I blame the economy. Bandai's got one heck of a backlog character lineup in this line, And yet no solid announcement when said backlog is going to get actual production release. I don't mind if they don't release any new reveals for now, as long as the backlog gets done first (crosses fingers for the GGG mechs and R-Trooper series) Gold Not sure I would pick up more GGG mechs. I have GaoGaiGar but did not get Choryujin, Big Volfogg, or Gekiryujin. Those and the Armored Core figures have been the only figures I have skipped. I even have 1st and 2nd Key sets for GGG. I would rather they reissue Mazinkaiser SKL and kill that aftermarket pricing that is so ricockulous. I also wonder if some of the figures we have seen pictures are actually going to be SRC. I am pretty positive that Dygenguar was actually the SOC one and will not ever be a SRC version. I would love a Sun Vulcan Robo or a God Gravion though. Both would be pretty awesome. We can dream about some Getters or maybe, just maybe, Danguard Ace. |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 23, 2012 17:33:34 GMT -5
I will be more than happy if Bandai released the Mazinger Weapons Pack 2... and a GaoFighGar! ;D
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Post by Chen on Jul 23, 2012 17:51:18 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for my two Gekiryujin's to be released. I'm thinking August is gonna be a big month, the Evo Gaiking and Daiku come out, supposedly the Miracle Voltron comes out plus hopefully my two Gekiryujin's plus I also pre-ordered the two Figma Tekkaman's that got pushed to late August along with the SRC Might Gain that also comes out that month. I have no idea how I'm gonna pay for all this :-(
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 23, 2012 17:57:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I got a Gekiryujin coming, as well as the Figma Tekkamen, the Evolution Gaiking and Daiku Maryu, and hopefully, the Vehicle Voltron(s). It is no wonder why I'm always broke... ;D
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Post by actionawesome on Jul 23, 2012 18:07:13 GMT -5
Chen. I feel ya.
For me it is Vehicle Voltron. SRC Might Gaine. SRC Daizyujin. Robot Spirits Sazabi. Riobot Gurren Lagann, and finally DX Mazinger DX!
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Jul 23, 2012 20:57:07 GMT -5
So I'm just curious... For you guys that feel a strong kinship for the meaning of "super robot", what exactly are the defining differences for you? Example: Size? Does it have to be gattai, or can mecha be a super robot? Time period? Unknown power source? Can something that transforms be a super robot?... For me its robots who had animes and were the heroes of said animes which aired between 1972-1984.There are a few exceptions after 1984,but VERY few for me anyhow.Mazinkaiser would be among those,as well as Shin Getter Robo etc.Anything after that is pure fanservice to the realSuperobots{Gekiganger},or all share the "modern look"which is a composite of gundam and grey sheet metal scrap,put together in a haphazard way.lol The original Superrobots were beautiful.Ill compare it to automobiles,the 70s cars were very cool,and the the guys who created them were artists,the cars of today are ugly style-less cars whos looks play second fiddle to how "green" the car is .70s design and early 80s design in everything revolved around looks,bright colors etc.Today all cars are grey and bland,thats why people go bananas over retro muscle cars.I think the culture of today and the era plays a big part in robot design The demographic and culture of the time had some reflection on those robots{bright colors,funky design of the 70s,and the early re-electronic craze of the early 80s. Ok Ive ranted,but that is what Super Robots are to me.Bright colors,slick classic UNIQUE design and of a bygone era.Tell me one Super Robot today that comes close to being a Mazinger of our era,NONE,most if not all are quickly forgotten{GaoGaiger anyone?}.BUT that doesnt mean some cant be created now,but they would have to share the same qualities as the classics and their animes.Cool pilots with flashy uniforms,funky bright colored old school design,a host of wild weapons with even wilder names,and a gaggle of 3 faced alien villains to harras them. My opinion as crazy as it may sound on what a Super Robot should be. I think you nailed my opinion as well. I'll just add "smooth lines" to it. All those old designs were smooth. New robots all look jagged to me. |
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