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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Dec 3, 2013 19:13:06 GMT -5
I have not used YHJ yet. But with ebay if everyone submits their highest price in the last 5 seconds the winner gets it for no more than they wanted to pay. I like that. |
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Dec 3, 2013 19:47:45 GMT -5
I have not used YHJ yet. But with ebay if everyone submits their highest price in the last 5 seconds the winner gets it for no more than they wanted to pay. I like that. Unless you are one of those guys that decides to throw in a "knockout" bid right at the end...and another bidder does the same. Then one of you gets royally screwed. |
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Post by zambot3 on Dec 3, 2013 20:01:47 GMT -5
I think the prices of Jumbos aren't really that out of hand. I take a look at the tin robots that the older generation collect and those have not gone down in value at all and many of them are comparable to the Jumbos.
I believe that are many factors to why something is so valuable.
As I said, Jumbos were hard to keep around because they are so much bigger and take up so much space. Boxed toys in general are not the easiest things to keep in great condition unlike something like a comic book or baseball card which you can easily put away in a box and not think about it.
The only time a collectible loses value is when a hoard of speculators come in buying a bunch of stuff up thinking they are going to make money from them. Not sure anybody did that when the robots were first sold in toy stores.
I think for the most part the people buying jumbos are true collectors who are willing to pay those prices.
Not sure how many Jumbos they made and I guess we'll never know. Maybe someone will end up finding boxes of these somewhere.
Does anyone know how many of the Japanese Jumbos were included in a case? I'd be interested to see how these got to the toy stores.
I would love a Godsigma but I doubt I'll be able to afford one any time soon. I remember a boxed not put together one for about $5000 and thinking how expensive it was. Now that's probably considered cheap.
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Dec 4, 2013 14:59:22 GMT -5
I have not used YHJ yet. But with ebay if everyone submits their highest price in the last 5 seconds the winner gets it for no more than they wanted to pay. I like that. Unless you are one of those guys that decides to throw in a "knockout" bid right at the end...and another bidder does the same. Then one of you gets royally screwed. How do you figure, if someone is willing to pay that much nobody gets screwed. Simple solution, don't enter a bid you wouldn't want to actually win with. |
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Dec 4, 2013 15:26:01 GMT -5
Unless you are one of those guys that decides to throw in a "knockout" bid right at the end...and another bidder does the same. Then one of you gets royally screwed. How do you figure, if someone is willing to pay that much nobody gets screwed. Simple solution, don't enter a bid you wouldn't want to actually win with. Agreed, but all I'm saying is that sometimes people do put in knockout bids that they may "pay" if it goes there, but really don't want to. As stupid as it sounds, people do it. Sometimes they just want an item that badly. It's a problem if someone else feels the same though and you have two of those go in. |
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Post by zambot3 on Dec 4, 2013 16:06:44 GMT -5
True Ginrai but since it looks like those Gordian's weren't won by a knockout punch as we once thought. Just market price for the item. From my experience, most knockout bids do ending up being market price. Especially for a rare jumbo. I don't even know what constitutes rare and not in that hobby. I know the Shoguns aren't but the rest? What considered rare?
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Post by jumboman on Dec 4, 2013 16:07:00 GMT -5
Owning a rare & prestigious robot I'm not really sure I'd feel like I was screwed but I agree I wouldn't bid so much....UNLESS I hit the lottery!!!!
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Dec 4, 2013 16:27:30 GMT -5
True Ginrai but since it looks like those Gordian's weren't won by a knockout punch as we once thought. Just market price for the item. From my experience, most knockout bids do ending up being market price. Especially for a rare jumbo. I don't even know what constitutes rare and not in that hobby. I know the Shoguns aren't but the rest? What considered rare? Correct. Those went for market. I don't collect jumbos but: Combattra, d-17, t-28, Voltes, sun Vulcan, godmarz, grendizer with the tilting head are expensive. Anything robot factory is rare (Gardian, battle fever, godsigma, daidenjin, daltanias). Daiku maryu is expensive. Spazers are hard to come by but they are out there. Jumbo villains - some are rarer than others but they are all pricey. Garada is the anomaly with only 2 or 3 known at the moment. Then there are non popy like the mekanda jumbo or jeeg. Plenty more than what I listed as well. Someone else can gladly chime in. |
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Post by zambot3 on Dec 4, 2013 18:10:23 GMT -5
I'll chime in.
Actually. Combattra and T-28 aren't rare. I'll put him in the same group as Poseidon, Ultraman Taro, Getter 1, Getter 2 and Liger.
I'm not so sure Voltes V is rare but he is such a popular robot, the combo of that and it's relative rarity make him pricy.
I'd say in terms of rarity both Voltes V and Dangard Ace are comparable. Voltes cause he's popular and Dangard because it is a pretty amazing jumbo.
I don't think the Spazer are that rare either but it is such a unique item, people are willing to pay a lot of money for it.
I agree all the Robot Factory Jumbos are rare. I don't see many of those being sold. Although they say Battle Fever J is the most plentiful, I see less of him than most of the other jumbos.
Gordian is growing on me. He is the only jumbo that is sort of closely anatomically similar to a human.
I never see Ultraman Leo on sale. I believe he is pretty rare. I've seen many Robocons as but his popularity and uniqueness make him pricy as well.
I know one of the Kamen Riders is plentiful, the other one is suppose to be somewhat rare.
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Dec 4, 2013 21:22:20 GMT -5
Agree with what you said. The first group I mentioned including the t-28 and combattra I didn't say those were rare, just expensive.
The rest I listed I would call rare. Spazer is not super rare but not common either.
Leo is definitely a tough one. That's a great one to mention.
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Post by mikedeco on Dec 5, 2013 16:39:13 GMT -5
An intersting thing I've notice with the years is that some characters might sell higher depending on the country. For example Combattler and Danguard are highly sought after in the US market because of the Shogun comics. Ok they're also sought after in other country, but it's almost a must have for the Shogun fans.
If you take a character like Robocon, he might sell for a very high price in Japan or HK and much less in US because he's not that popular there.
There's also the rarity of the box that can be a serious factor. Kamen Rider X was mentioned above, he's not that rare, well rarer than the V3, but not extremely rare. But it's hard to find him boxed. Ultraman Leo is a really good example as there's very few Leo boxed and until not so long ago, only two where known to exist, then a few more sold but for super high prices since it's one of the rarest to get boxed.
Red Baron is also a good example for the country. Much more success in Asia than in the US.
And to come back on the subject of this topic. Even if I'm deep into the Jumbo collection I'm completely lost when I see today's prices. Battle is way more fierce than before and there's serious bidders with a financial power waaaaayyyyyy beyond my understanding. I can only say that I'm soooooo happy that I've start a few years ago.
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Post by bowhntr66 on Dec 5, 2013 20:02:00 GMT -5
Ok, My 2 cents.... Most of the pricing really depends on want. For example, I once threw a 120000¥ bid on a non-boxed Combattler. If memory serves, he was missing the wheel truck and the claw hand. Because he was my Grail, I went a little over what I normally would have went on him. Funny thing is, I was still out bid! I've done that on a few that I really wanted. If I want it, somebody else had better REALLY want it. I fear that may be part of the problem now with the jumbo pricing. A lot of newer collectors just starting to collect is bringing the prices up. Now it's Dangard, T-28 and Poseidon's turn to top my list...
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Post by bourno on Mar 9, 2014 11:43:10 GMT -5
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Post by zambot3 on Mar 16, 2014 19:45:17 GMT -5
Decent price. Looks like the Antennas are off. Is that sword missing a piece? Could use some repro work.
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Post by zambot3 on Apr 27, 2014 18:13:27 GMT -5
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Post by bowhntr66 on Apr 27, 2014 18:39:21 GMT -5
Yeah..... Getting insane..... But a decent Poseidon, with box, goes for 80000¥!!! |
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Post by joweone on Apr 27, 2014 18:57:04 GMT -5
Almost makes me wanna sell my Gordian to finance some villains..almost.
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Post by bowhntr66 on Apr 27, 2014 19:43:24 GMT -5
Almost makes me wanna sell my Gordian to finance some villains..almost. I take it you seen what that one sold for...... Wow!! |
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Post by zambot3 on Apr 28, 2014 11:38:56 GMT -5
Also not in the best condition as well without the box or anything. Robot Factory arguably the most desirable jumbos these days.
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Post by joweone on Aug 17, 2014 18:17:42 GMT -5
boxed Gordian 811,000 yen. Wow. didn't see that coming.
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