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Post by jmc on Apr 29, 2014 17:08:28 GMT -5
LOL.... I know! The blow dryer thing's okay. Hot water, okay. I had to cover all those other extreme methods juuust in case anyone here might try them and end up damaging their jumbo.  zozo-mag Lol I promise not to wyle e. Coyote anything! |
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Apr 29, 2014 23:34:32 GMT -5
Has anyone thought of using dyes instead of paints?Is the surface at all permeable to accept dyes?Havent had a Jumbo in 15 years so..? All my research has lead me to understand that polyethylene plastics are really tough. I have had success (so far with the priming) I scuffed it up with 150 grit sandpaper and worked it smoother to get under the shiny layer. I used SEM self-etching primer which seems to really hold. I did a scratch test and i couldn't remove it! When I tried krylon fusion all it did was coat the surface but I could easily scratch it off. I'll let you know how the rest works out. I am letting the primer cure then add a thin layer of sandable primer then paint. What about automotive dyes? Polyethylene might not be naturally porous enough, but we color change the plastic parts on vintage car interiors with the dye paint. It has to be put on with a commercial sprayer but it works well depending on what color plastic you start with. It's not the cheapest even for a small can so you would have to look at doing a few of them (but not many) to be worth it. |
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Post by jmc on Apr 30, 2014 21:15:33 GMT -5
LOL.... I know! The blow dryer thing's okay. Hot water, okay. I had to cover all those other extreme methods juuust in case anyone here might try them and end up damaging their jumbo. zozo-mag I tried VHT Dye but it didn't take well. So far scuffing it up really well then using finer grit with a coating of SEM self-etching seems to hold up. I am waiting for the rain here to stop before I continue. At least it gives the stuff time to cure. |
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Post by magengar on Apr 30, 2014 22:04:23 GMT -5
The last time I painted a jumbo (Great Mazinger, it's not here with me now) I scuffed its head really good with fine sandpaper; and then I hand-painted it with two thin coats of Rustoleum paint... ...Metallic silver for the crown and mouth vents, dark blue for the face, yellow/orange mixed for the eyes, and yellow horns. I then coated the black body with several thin layers of black Plasti-Dip to build up the surface, and it cured friggin SOLID! lol I filled the interior with Great Stuff foam and it weighed enough to crack heads!  I plan to do the same procedure with my jumbo Voltron and Gaiking. zozo-mag |
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Post by jmc on May 1, 2014 16:55:26 GMT -5
The last time I painted a jumbo (Great Mazinger, it's not here with me now) I scuffed its head really good with fine sandpaper; and then I hand-painted it with two thin coats of Rustoleum paint... ...Metallic silver for the crown and mouth vents, dark blue for the face, yellow/orange mixed for the eyes, and yellow horns. I then coated the black body with several thin layers of black Plasti-Dip to build up the surface, and it cured friggin SOLID! lol I filled the interior with Great Stuff foam and it weighed enough to crack heads! I plan to do the same procedure with my jumbo Voltron and Gaiking. zozo-mag Plasti-Dip? I have never used it. What does the final product look like? |
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Post by magengar on May 2, 2014 0:00:14 GMT -5
The last time I painted a jumbo (Great Mazinger, it's not here with me now) I scuffed its head really good with fine sandpaper; and then I hand-painted it with two thin coats of Rustoleum paint... ...Metallic silver for the crown and mouth vents, dark blue for the face, yellow/orange mixed for the eyes, and yellow horns. I then coated the black body with several thin layers of black Plasti-Dip to build up the surface, and it cured friggin SOLID! lol I filled the interior with Great Stuff foam and it weighed enough to crack heads! I plan to do the same procedure with my jumbo Voltron and Gaiking. zozo-mag Plasti-Dip? I have never used it. What does the final product look like? As in the case of my jumbo Great Mazinger's black body, with the black Plasti-Dip coating the texture was hard with a flat matte finish (not shiny). I had to spray the Plasti-Dip on in several thin layers for thickness and rigidity. The layers must be allowed to fully cure for a day or two, I'd rather wait two days before applying the next coat. I was also careful not to apply the Plasti-Dip onto the areas that will be in contact with moving parts (the holes where the limbs, legs, and head attach to the body). Plasti-Dip can be found in any major hardware store like Home Depot... ...ask for it by name. Here is the Plasti-Dip website so you can research more info about this item, and other products in the line. Also watch the video presentations to see how it is used... www.plastidip.com/zozo-mag |
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Post by jmc on May 2, 2014 17:54:32 GMT -5
Plasti-Dip? I have never used it. What does the final product look like? As in the case of my jumbo Great Mazinger's black body, with the black Plasti-Dip coating the texture was hard with a flat matte finish (not shiny). I had to spray the Plasti-Dip on in several thin layers for thickness and rigidity. The layers must be allowed to fully cure for a day or two, I'd rather wait two days before applying the next coat. I was also careful not to apply the Plasti-Dip onto the areas that will be in contact with moving parts (the holes where the limbs, legs, and head attach to the body). Plasti-Dip can be found in any major hardware store like Home Depot... ...ask for it by name. Here is the Plasti-Dip website so you can research more info about this item, and other products in the line. Also watch the video presentations to see how it is used... www.plastidip.com/zozo-mag Thanks so much! I am going to look into that. So for the joints you used a matching black spray paint? If I am understanding this correctly |
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on May 2, 2014 23:34:16 GMT -5
****There are two kinds of plasti-dip, one that is in a can and you literally dip parts into it (tool handles to cost them with a grip, etc. look at the pictures on the site, you'll see what I mean) and then it also comes in a spray can.
When you do the spray can you have to do a few coats but you can literally peel it off with no damage once it dries. If it gets scratched or chipped, you respray it.
Currently spray cans come in black, red, and glossifier (clear top coat with sparkle flake). They may have new colors. Home Depot stocks those three @ $8/can. The dip dip is a little cheaper and comes in more colors.
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Post by magengar on May 3, 2014 1:15:57 GMT -5
That's exactly how I applied the Plasti-Dip, from the spray can. I don't have any saved pics of my Great Mazinger jumbo when I was working on it, back when Multiply.com had a photoalbum hosting site I had all my pics there and later on Multiply shut down and all my pics got deleted (they never even notified me before shutting down). Here's an old pic showing my jumbo Great Mazinger head after painting it, circa 2008...  zozo-mag |
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Post by jmc on May 3, 2014 8:08:44 GMT -5
That's exactly how I applied the Plasti-Dip, from the spray can. I don't have any saved pics of my Great Mazinger jumbo when I was working on it, back when Multiply.com had a photoalbum hosting site I had all my pics there and later on Multiply shut down and all my pics got deleted (they never even notified me before shutting down). Here's an old pic showing my jumbo Great Mazinger head after painting it, circa 2008... zozo-mag Looks great. That's rustoleum aluminum paint? |
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Post by magengar on May 3, 2014 9:09:50 GMT -5
for the head, yep, that's the Rustoleum brand paint...
I hand-painted the head with a brush in two thin layers for each color.
zozo-mag
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Post by jmc on May 5, 2014 5:01:47 GMT -5
for the head, yep, that's the Rustoleum brand paint... I hand-painted the head with a brush in two thin layers for each color. zozo-mag I had a quick question. Once I prime the body what grit sandpaper should I use before painting ? |
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Post by magengar on May 5, 2014 20:56:26 GMT -5
Very fine sandpaper.
(I have trouble identifying the sandpaper by grade number,
but I can see the difference in coarseness on plain sight)
zozo-mag
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on May 5, 2014 23:01:12 GMT -5
Very fine sandpaper. ( I have trouble identifying the sandpaper by grade number,
but I can see the difference in coarseness on plain sight) zozo-mag The higher the number, the finer the grit. 100 is really coarse, 1000 is fine, 2000 is really fine, etc. |
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Post by magengar on May 6, 2014 23:17:28 GMT -5
Thanks, Gin, I'll write that down and remember that! zozo-mag |
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