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Post by Steve Armstrong on Jan 15, 2015 22:48:16 GMT -5
nope..
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Post by borutesfaibu on Jan 15, 2015 23:58:33 GMT -5
nope.. If you're looking for a Voltes you should sign up for NY's email notification service. It seems pretty up to the minute. Got the notification awhile ago and when I clicked on it it was available.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jan 16, 2015 0:12:02 GMT -5
I don't know about that second paragraph bro. If I remember correctly, Combattler, Daimos, and Voltes also were a "monster of the week" cartoon, just like all the rest. The ones you mentioned, Mazinger Z, Getter Robo, Jeeg, also had a story to tell. It was about the bad guys trying to take over the world, and the heroes stopping them. Again, just like all those anime - with one exception (of the ones I've seen). Yes, as much as I dislike Gunbuster, I think that one had a different and unique storyline. Unlike all the others, which at the end, all lead to the Monster Of The Week fight. }D I don't think he said that they didn't have a monster of the week but in addition to that the stories ran deeper than bad guys trying to take over the world. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. I've never seen combattler but I'm pretty familiar with the other 2 and they both pretty much had subplots that would be considered adult themes. Voltes v's was deep enough that a government thought it could incite dissent and banned it. What was the bottom line of the episodes? A monster (of the week) was going to destroy something (regardless of the reason), and it had to be stopped. To me that is pretty much it. Doesn't matter if one had a guy that just wanted to rule the world with ancient technology, or another had a half brother form another world in charge of the alien invasion, or yet another had an alien chick with wings that fell in love with a human, but her king was an a-hole an just wanted the Earth. They all ended in a fight between the hero robot and the enemy one - and that was the real highlight of the show. }D
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Post by clo on Jan 16, 2015 0:14:56 GMT -5
Just got my tracking number for Voltes V from NY (Can't wait).
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Post by treatment on Jan 16, 2015 0:48:51 GMT -5
I don't think he said that they didn't have a monster of the week but in addition to that the stories ran deeper than bad guys trying to take over the world. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. I've never seen combattler but I'm pretty familiar with the other 2 and they both pretty much had subplots that would be considered adult themes. Voltes v's was deep enough that a government thought it could incite dissent and banned it. What was the bottom line of the episodes? A monster (of the week) was going to destroy something (regardless of the reason), and it had to be stopped. To me that is pretty much it. Doesn't matter if one had a guy that just wanted to rule the world with ancient technology, or another had a half brother form another world in charge of the alien invasion, or yet another had an alien chick with wings that fell in love with a human, but her king was an a-hole an just wanted the Earth. They all ended in a fight between the hero robot and the enemy one - and that was the real highlight of the show. }D I think with Daimos and Voltes V, there's a distinct lack of slapstick and juvenile comedy compared to Mazinger Z and Combattra (that electric yo-yo thingy was just a WTF weapon when I was a kid... ^_^; ). From what I can recall, both Daimos and Voltes V shows were surprisingly pretty intense stuff for a couple of robot shows aimed at kids. Nagahama's quite a director and stuff, I must say. After him, almost all robot shows became just more blatant toy-commercials with hammy and corny stories. Well, until Macross that is...
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Jan 16, 2015 2:45:23 GMT -5
Borutesfaibu and Treatment got my point: while it is true that you can't have a SR show without super robots fighting (which inevitably leads to the monster of the week formula) the plots make the difference here: the romance trilogy is comprised of animes which sport subplots and themes that are way more mature than what we saw in earlier works.
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Post by S_Gokin on Jan 16, 2015 4:14:39 GMT -5
good question man i honestly didnt watch Daltanious and im not going to lol Nagahama was the general director in Daltanious, but i guess they call it a Trilogy because it was a coproduction between Sunrise and Toei Company with Sunrise providing the animation work on their behalf. while Daltanious was all Toei my question why they call it romantic ? i saw Combattler V there wasn't any romance in it i still didnt watch Voltes V but i dont think it had any romance either BUT Daimos was FULL of it in my opinion best story in the 3 i really enjoyed watching it so much that i watched 3 episodes in a row daily i might watch it again Voltes V had romance. Just that it was not the usual highschool-variety romance thing. More Frenchy romance than Italian or English romance. Was quite deep and extended idealistic variety, and it's not even within the team members themselves. Iirc, the most obvious of which was between the anti-hero and his consort. hmmmm you know i will start watching it next since i dont have any thing to watch iv found a crazy almost 720p resolution with subs lets hope its as great as you guys are saying
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Post by S_Gokin on Jan 16, 2015 4:46:00 GMT -5
What was the bottom line of the episodes? A monster (of the week) was going to destroy something (regardless of the reason), and it had to be stopped. To me that is pretty much it. Doesn't matter if one had a guy that just wanted to rule the world with ancient technology, or another had a half brother form another world in charge of the alien invasion, or yet another had an alien chick with wings that fell in love with a human, but her king was an a-hole an just wanted the Earth. They all ended in a fight between the hero robot and the enemy one - and that was the real highlight of the show. }D I think with Daimos and Voltes V, there's a distinct lack of slapstick and juvenile comedy compared to Mazinger Z and Combattra ( that electric yo-yo thingy was just a WTF weapon when I was a kid... ^_^; ). From what I can recall, both Daimos and Voltes V shows were surprisingly pretty intense stuff for a couple of robot shows aimed at kids. Nagahama's quite a director and stuff, I must say. After him, almost all robot shows became just more blatant toy-commercials with hammy and corny stories. Well, until Macross that is... come on Maan the ChoDenji Yo-Yo is most cool attack Combattler V have after the Super awesome ChoDenji Spin as a kid i absolutely love it
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Post by B- on Jan 16, 2015 5:23:47 GMT -5
When it all comes down to it for me its about the visuals,the funk,and how bizarre and interesting the villains are also are a magnetic factor that draws me to certain classic anime.Storyline is fine but it takes a back seat to the cool 70s art.If I want a storyline Ill watch a movie,these are cartoons and meant to be fun to watch,sure they need to be engrossing,but if you watch them in a spurious way its the art that keeps you coming back.
Three SR shows really stand out visually for me and all have the cool art,they are Gakeen,Jeeg and Tekkaman.Those 3 shows are all aesthetically interesting to watch,and the villains are greatly bizzarre in all 3.Its too bad alot of people cant get past the 5 or so main Super Robot shows and give these more second or 3rd tier shows a chance,there is a lot to be said for them.The art in Voltes,Daimos and Combattler(I own Combattler and Voltes animes} really pale in comparison to an episode of Gakeen,Jeeg,and Tekkaman..just look at the background art! The bright purples and blues of the painting,the interesting scapes and settings arent just a blue sky with trees like most other SR 70s shows.
The 8 or so Time Bokan series although not mainly Super Robots with the exception of Ippatsuman{Gyatuken-Oh Sankan-Oh} and Calendarman{Kingstar } are also very ,very interesting to watch.Again it seems the shows most popular in Italy appeal to me most.
Sure Voltes etc are classic and great shows,but there are more shows to unearth if you give them a shot.
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Post by cupnoodles on Jan 16, 2015 7:09:11 GMT -5
Three SR shows really stand out visually for me and all have the cool art,they are Gakeen,Jeeg and Tekkaman. Gakeen has some really interesting stuff in it. The anime creators had the difficult task of being forced to make the same thing as before/as everyone else but at the same time something different. Many of these series would have work done by different studios within the series, for example this link shows some of the episodes that Topcraft worked on. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TopcraftI also found a book on the founding of Tatsunoko Pro: "To the World's Children this Dream: The Footsteps of Tatsunoko Pro Genius Founder Yoshida Tatsuo" goo.gl/S9jy9d
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jan 16, 2015 15:14:24 GMT -5
When it comes to Super Robot anime, my main interest is the battle screen-time. Not fond of Super Robot anime that spends most of the time focused on the characters feelings. Really could care less for that, which is why I'm not a Evangelion and even Gundam fan. I want action, action, action! Doesn't have to involve the main characters all the time either - I just don't want to get bored. If I wanted to watch drama, I much rather watch a Latin Soap Opera... as they have the most beautiful and sexy women in them! }D
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Post by treatment on Jan 16, 2015 15:47:24 GMT -5
Welp!
HLJ shipped mine today together with my waiting MP-22.
Still quite peeved I didn't get GX-31V thru Ami due to Ami's po-shenanigans...
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Post by OzmaLee on Jan 16, 2015 16:24:56 GMT -5
Just got my payment request from HLJ a couple hours ago and paid it. The shipped price was not bad. 24,710 yen Fedex. Amiami always looks cheap til you see their shipping rates. My last order's shipping from them was 6,900 yen EMS.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Jan 16, 2015 18:21:57 GMT -5
When it comes to Super Robot anime, my main interest is the battle screen-time. Not fond of Super Robot anime that spends most of the time focused on the characters feelings. Really could care less for that, which is why I'm not a Evangelion and even Gundam fan. I want action, action, action! Doesn't have to involve the main characters all the time either - I just don't want to get bored. If I wanted to watch drama, I much rather watch a Latin Soap Opera... as they have the most beautiful and sexy women in them! }D Man, I guess you're a big fan of the Mazinkaiser SKL ovas, right? As for me, yeah I always do look forward to the robot battles in each episode of these shows. But, you know, I appreciate when someone tries to change the formula to give us something similar to what you'd expect, but unique at the same time. Those elements make the shows more memorable. Example: Mazinger Z (just because many of you are familiar with it) is a SR show which is... repetitive. There are 92 episodes and only in a handful of them we see things and events which truly have an impact on the overall story. Like... well the first 2 episodes are definitely important. Then the episodes in which Boss gets presented, the episode in which Boss Borot is built, the episode when Aphrodai A gets destroyed, and the one in which we see Dianan A for the first time, then the first episode in which we see the scrander is important too... when we see count Blocken for the first time, when the first submarine of baron Ashura gets destroyed... then maybe 2 or 3 more episodes there in the middle, oh yeah the one in which dr. Morimori dies is quite important. And then the final episodes. We probably have a good 60-to-70 "filler" episodes in the Mazinger Z anime. And by that I mean, episodes which don't truly add anything to the story. You always see the same things, baron Ashura trying every possible trick in existance to kill Koji/ destroy Mazinger Z, Ashura and Blocken screwing everything up because of their lack of teamwork, dr. Hell getting more and more frustrated because of all the failures... you know that the next episode is probably gonna be something you already saw, in one form or another, so obviously we tend to be interested in the robot fight and nothing more, to finally see some action.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jan 16, 2015 19:15:24 GMT -5
Action, action, action. Everything else is just filler to me. And if it's whiny, romantic, sad, or silly, the less it captures my attention. It's no wonder I fall asleep watching these shows, until the fights begin. }D
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Post by borutesfaibu on Jan 16, 2015 23:30:52 GMT -5
Well to each his own right? I personally don't go into a show looking for drama and seriousness. If the mecha looks awesome, I'll usually check it out but I definitely appreciate it if the story turns out really good too and gets me thinking about it beyond the mechas and fighting.
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Post by Steve Armstrong on Jan 17, 2015 1:15:16 GMT -5
Well to each his own right? I personally don't go into a show looking for drama and seriousness. If the mecha looks awesome, I'll usually check it out but I definitely appreciate it if the story turns out really good too and gets me thinking about it beyond the mechas and fighting. aside from action.. i also want something with a good story...with substance..
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Post by Gold on Jan 17, 2015 7:00:58 GMT -5
Hi all, here's a quick look at the Soul of Chogokin 40th Anniversary Gx-01R Mazinger Z and 40th Anniversary Gx-08 Aprhodai A. Hmm.. So Bandai is adding Japanese paper in now eh? To keep things dry I presume? Pileders Pileder On! Lol... mold reuse... Rocket Punch! Missile punch! Breast Fire! Mazinger's first flight (just like in the Anime, using the missiles from the Aphrodai A set). Scrander Cross! Mazinger's Hover Pileder is modified into the Jet Pileder. New weapon upgrades. Iron Cutters Drill Missiles Scrander Cutter Southern Cross Knives Display base. Comparison With the Original Gx-01 With the Gx-01R With the Gx-01R+ Hover Pilder (the + doesn't come with the Jet Pileder) 40th version on the left. Mazingers (40th on the left) All together Notes: Weighs 320 Grams and 344 Grams (with Scrander) I'm glad they didn't go all "candy colors" with the red. Plus the black pearl finish is really good, it looks like the type of paint they use for cars. Hmm... Smoke finish is far more prominent here than on the Gx01R+, depending on your tastes, that can be a good or a bad thing. The metallic blue finish is a bit lighter than Gx-01R+ (40th Anniversary) Mazinger Z and Aphrodai A Soul of Chogokin 40th Anniversary Gx-08 Aphrodai A The dome is now blue, the original was clear (it turns yellow over time). Speaking of which, anyone else's AA dome still clear? I'm curious. Mine's been stored and never really displayed and it still turned yellow. Fire missiles! Optional "new" hands included (from the Mazinger Angels version). With the original Gx-08 Aphrodai A. Display base Slight change - in case anyone's particular, the 40th version comes in a baggie with multi-language choking hazard warnings. Aphrodai weighs 155 Grams Pretty good, a solid reissue with extra hands, it's a great way to grab AA if you missed out on the original. I still prefer the "show accurate colors" of the original Gx-08 though. Also, handling this toy again reminds me of how awesome SOC used to be in terms of diecast proportions. Everything on this figure is metal except for the head and fists. Ah... how times have changed. Gold
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Post by 45caliber on Jan 17, 2015 8:08:13 GMT -5
Noticed that there was a serial number at the 40th Mazinger's back same as the ones found on the 01R+... well my 08 dome yellowed for some time too and feels like sticky.. finally see the 40th's 08 nearly up close based on your picture.. still waiting for my 40th 01r and 08 to arrive.. Nice Review Gold..
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Jan 17, 2015 8:12:27 GMT -5
Yep, very good review and comparison pics Gold. As I expected, no issues with these releases whatsoever I should be getting my 01R40th in the next few weeks, looking forward to it.
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