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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 1:57:37 GMT -5
and mazinger never gets old! At least we agree on something!
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Post by B- on Feb 10, 2015 8:01:08 GMT -5
If I may defend it a tad, the problem's not exactly with the franchise, there's plenty of variety in mech designs, specially nowadays (if you like the designs or not, that's another subject). The problem's with the shmucks that keep buying every Zaku and RX-78-2 that gets released, giving Bandai reasons to release MORE Zakus and RX-78-2s! It's the snowball effect. Kinda like those Mazinkaisers. People keep buyin'em, so they keep makin'em. I know it's easier said than done, but the only way to let 'em know you want something different is to stop buying the same thing over and over again. Hey, don't look at me. I don't own a single Zaku, and only 1 RX-78-2.
And Baron:
You better not be dissing my mobile suits.
Those look cool,at least one out of 4 isnt white.I love teh RX-78 I have one of him,its just besides a helmet or antennae tweak they all look alike.Look at the ones you posted,the bottom ones have a different color head crest the rest is exactly alike.I just dont see what is so exciting.There is NO color?they would be much more appealing if they were painted in color,not just WHITE.That is why teh enemy Gundams are so much better,they look more menacing and arent just white,even if they are just a solid color like JUST red or JUST green.LOL. Dont take it personal,I mean you didnt design them,you just LIKE them.
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Post by Fontes on Feb 10, 2015 11:56:19 GMT -5
Again, if I may pop-up and defend it a little, personally I tend to care more about variation in silhouette rather than just colors. With that in mind, Go Nagai isn't all THAT inventive on his main mechs either, is he? Change the heads and chest plating a tad, boom, you're done. Entirely new robot!
Now, granted, that's also true for most Gundams. But that's partially exactly why they're Gundams. One's supposed to look at it and immediately recognize it as a Gundam. Traits like white as the main color, the chest exhausts, the samurai-like helmet with the v-fin slapped in... It's a matter of branding, in the same way most cars retain their basic aesthetic traits as new models come in. Take the main mechs from each individual Gundam show, and you'll be seeing plenty of differences, even if white and blue are the dominant colors.
IMO, the bigger problem of the Gundam franchise isn't as much with individual designs, but with variants. I picked on Zakus before, but let's face it, how many Zaku recolors and equipment adjustments does a guy really need?! Regular Zaku, Zaku Char Custom, Zaku Minelayer, Zaku Sniper, Zaku Veterinary... seriously?! I'm fine that variants exist, but was Zeon's budget THAT much in the gutter?!
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Post by incognito on Feb 10, 2015 13:13:58 GMT -5
Hey, don't look at me. I don't own a single Zaku, and only 1 RX-78-2.
And Baron:
You better not be dissing my mobile suits.
Tallgeese crew... SICK!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 14:27:01 GMT -5
At least we agree on something! And that someone needs to make Diapolon. If you are referring to the one I made the challenge, then HELL YEAH!!!
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Post by B- on Feb 10, 2015 21:16:05 GMT -5
Again, if I may pop-up and defend it a little, personally I tend to care more about variation in silhouette rather than just colors. With that in mind, Go Nagai isn't all THAT inventive on his main mechs either, is he? Change the heads and chest plating a tad, boom, you're done. Entirely new robot! Now, granted, that's also true for most Gundams. But that's partially exactly why they're Gundams. One's supposed to look at it and immediately recognize it as a Gundam. Traits like white as the main color, the chest exhausts, the samurai-like helmet with the v-fin slapped in... It's a matter of branding, in the same way most cars retain their basic aesthetic traits as new models come in. Take the main mechs from each individual Gundam show, and you'll be seeing plenty of differences, even if white and blue are the dominant colors. IMO, the bigger problem of the Gundam franchise isn't as much with individual designs, but with variants. I picked on Zakus before, but let's face it, how many Zaku recolors and equipment adjustments does a guy really need?! Regular Zaku, Zaku Char Custom, Zaku Minelayer, Zaku Sniper, Zaku Veterinary... seriously?! I'm fine that variants exist, but was Zeon's budget THAT much in the gutter?! Go Nagai is a very small part of the classic super Robots,72-84 there are many more franchises,Sunrise Studios,Tatsunoku,and many many other non Go Nagai robots.
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Post by Fontes on Feb 10, 2015 21:44:06 GMT -5
Go Nagai is a very small part of the classic super Robots,72-84 there are many more franchises,Sunrise Studios,Tatsunoku,and many many other non Go Nagai robots. The exact same can be said about Okawara, who designs mecha for pretty much everything. Or even Katoki (arguably the guy responsible for the current trend of making all mechs with skinny waists and long-ass legs) when he's not asked to clone Gundam Unicorn for the #1847583th time. Now, when I picked on Go Nagai, I meant it merely as an example. I dig many of his designs, Mazinger itself included! Now, picking on a line of robots that are meant to look similar by design, when that tends to happen pretty much anywhere, that's not really fair, is it? It's like saying Ferraris are bland because they're all red. Want a Gundam show with different Gundams? G Gundam has you covered.
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Post by B- on Feb 11, 2015 2:07:37 GMT -5
Go Nagai is a very small part of the classic super Robots,72-84 there are many more franchises,Sunrise Studios,Tatsunoku,and many many other non Go Nagai robots. The exact same can be said about Okawara, who designs mecha for pretty much everything. Or even Katoki (arguably the guy responsible for the current trend of making all mechs with skinny waists and long-ass legs) when he's not asked to clone Gundam Unicorn for the #1847583th time. Now, when I picked on Go Nagai, I meant it merely as an example. I dig many of his designs, Mazinger itself included! Now, picking on a line of robots that are meant to look similar by design, when that tends to happen pretty much anywhere, that's not really fair, is it? It's like saying Ferraris are bland because they're all red. Want a Gundam show with different Gundams? G Gundam has you covered.Yes but Go Nagai robots arent similar! Great Mazinger is an advancement of mazinger,then you have the Getters which are nothing alike,Jeeg also nothing alike,Govarian,Groizer a airplane,God mazinger a statue,Grendizer is teh only one a bit similar to Mazinger but just in color they are a family and others so..none of Go Nagais robots are similar.Gundams all look the same to me,color and design,sorry just the way I see it.Ferraris are supposed to look a like they are models of a brand of car.
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Post by B- on Feb 11, 2015 3:22:34 GMT -5
Ferraris are supposed to look a like they are models of a brand of car. Gundams are basically the same thing. After 35 years of the franchise being around, it's a safe bet that Gundam designs will never deviate to the point of being unrecognizable. Ally/enemy Gundams have a little more leeway, but the protagonist Gundam will always be primarily blue and white, have some form of V-fin, and be piloted by a mentally troubled teenager who has no right ever piloting any sort of robot.
Anyways, this topic has gone on for too long in a Mazinkaiser thread, so i'll leave it with this: We can agree on one thing Baron, and that's that waiting for a company to make a figure/model you want really sucks - where's my MG Leo Bandai?!
This is true!
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Feb 11, 2015 5:29:13 GMT -5
Looks like every damned Mazinkaiser toy I've ever seen. Hoping that it's just because I'm looking from my phone.
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Post by Fontes on Feb 11, 2015 14:08:20 GMT -5
Anyways, this topic has gone on for too long in a Mazinkaiser thread, so i'll leave it with this: We can agree on one thing Baron, and that's that waiting for a company to make a figure/model you want really sucks - where's my MG Leo Bandai?!
This is true![/quote] Wait a tad for 3D printing to get more viable. We'll all be flipping the bird at Bandai, not with rage, but with PRIDE!
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Post by magengar on Feb 18, 2015 22:41:19 GMT -5
zozo-mag ENOUGH WITH THESE MEMES MAGENGAR DAMN IS RIGHT UGGH. ?!
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Post by B- on Feb 19, 2015 11:12:16 GMT -5
ENOUGH WITH THESE MEMES MAGENGAR DAMN IS RIGHT UGGH. ?! ?!= not funny and annoying.Not you,the memes.
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Post by chogokinabdul on Feb 19, 2015 23:22:04 GMT -5
ENOUGH WITH THESE MEMES MAGENGAR DAMN IS RIGHT UGGH. ?! But I like those memes
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Post by S_Gokin on Feb 22, 2015 20:16:45 GMT -5
well i believe this is magengar since of humor with memes, and to be honest i enjoy it i dont see why he should stop it, in mater of fact memes became more than an expression these days its more like a language
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Post by chogokinabdul on Feb 22, 2015 22:16:23 GMT -5
Awesome,google them then,or join facebook,where they are EVERYWHERE its unnecessary here,and frankly not funny.Why is a black man with bulging eyes yelling in ebonics DAYUMM funny? Its just dumb,like 98% of the other pre-pubescent bonehead mass media jokes.Its a waste of space in a discussion,it serves zero purpose,do we really need a comedy break between photos,that are just of robots? BTW Why would a black and white sketch of an unreleased robot even warrant a meme like that?Is it really THAT exciting,its just a bland Mazinkaiser,nothing new,its not even a prototype,or even tangible,why the reacyion then?.Sorry its just dumb. take it easy man ... I also find them funny !! they add the MAGENGAR flavor to the thread
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Post by Fontes on Feb 22, 2015 22:39:19 GMT -5
(dammit, got ninja'd! ) That's not a sketch, it's a 3D model, and looks pretty prototype-ready to me. As an artist, I find that deminishing remark more offensive that someone showing excitement with an image tag, overused as it may be.
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Post by Fontes on Feb 22, 2015 23:06:29 GMT -5
(dammit, got ninja'd! ) That's not a sketch, it's a 3D model, and looks pretty prototype-ready to me. As an artist, I find that deminishing remark more offensive that someone showing excitement with an image tag, overused as it may be. dude read above post maybe then u will see what I mean your new here and don't have a grasp. Fair enough. You posted before I pressed "Create Post", hence the small edit I put on my previous post.
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Post by magengar on Feb 23, 2015 21:17:46 GMT -5
(dammit, got ninja'd! ) That's not a sketch, it's a 3D model, and looks pretty prototype-ready to me. As an artist, I find that deminishing remark more offensive that someone showing excitement with an image tag, overused as it may be. dude read above post maybe then u will see what I mean your new here and don't have a grasp. @ BARON WEIRWULF He is new member here, and just like all members in this community he deserves to be Respected as much as You do. I will not tolerate any condescending attitude from ANYONE here at Robot-Japan, Baron, not even from YOU.
zozo-mag
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Post by B- on Feb 23, 2015 21:44:48 GMT -5
dude read above post maybe then u will see what I mean your new here and don't have a grasp. @ BARON WEIRWULF He is new member here, and just like all members in this community he deserves to be Respected as much as You do. I will not tolerate any condescending attitude from ANYONE here at Robot-Japan, Baron, not even from YOU.
zozo-mag
And before jumping to conclusions and playing admin.I was showing him respect,I was implying he hasnt been here long enough to see your wild racist memes,he understands what I meant now,didnt you read his post?He posted the same time i did.It was you I had the issue with actually,and your memes.PMed you.im just gonna block your posts found out how.Thanks no issues now.
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