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Post by S_Gokin on Jul 1, 2018 6:24:04 GMT -5
well the SOC became like a beacon, so its a good idea to share any information about any Voltron figure in this thread first im not sure if i should get it, or save for the KOB V2
any news about the preorder and if our regular store will have it ?
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Post by smokinchogokin on Jul 1, 2018 6:35:14 GMT -5
My cousin is a huge LEGO guy. He actually designs and makes his own LEGO mechs. He’s been saying to jump on it pretty quickly cause these idea sets sell fast and will be going for triple MSRP in a years time.
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Post by krimpov on Jul 1, 2018 8:53:54 GMT -5
what did they do ? honestly the whole SOC KOs are brand new to me (the exact copy paste figure) Not SOC KOs, but there was a 3rd party Chinese gunpla company called Dragon Momoko that was making Master Grade kits of mechs that Bandai had not done, and also stylized versions and variants from Bandai's existing catalogue. DM was considered one of the best 3P gunpla companies out there, their material was good, the parts rarely had fitment issues. But around Summer of 2017 they started announcing PO for actual KO of Bandai kits with added weapon sets. I forgot which kits but I think Gundam Astray Blue Frame was one of them. Bandai obviously took notice of this and took action. In November of 2017 DM factory in China was raided by police, and all the molds were destroyed on site. So it is certain Bandai is very aware of the KOs coming from China, and will not hesitate to take legal steps when it pisses them off. I've just read on the Mecha Alliance Facebook group that Dragon Momoko's CEO has been sentenced to 3.5 years in prison and a fine of 1,900,000 CNY. The poster didn't quote any source and I couldn't find any other, more credible source. Not saying the guy's a liar, but until the info is confirmed, it's just a Facebook post without a source. Maybe I've just been living under a rock for years, but news of a jail sentence (or any kind of sentence) for IP infringement from China still sounds... uncanny.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Jul 1, 2018 10:16:40 GMT -5
well the SOC became like a beacon, so its a good idea to share any information about any Voltron figure in this thread first What? Just make separate threads for separate figures in the appropriate forum sections.
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Post by S_Gokin on Jul 1, 2018 14:05:27 GMT -5
I've just read on the Mecha Alliance Facebook group that Dragon Momoko's CEO has been sentenced to 3.5 years in prison and a fine of 1,900,000 CNY. The poster didn't quote any source and I couldn't find any other, more credible source. Not saying the guy's a liar, but until the info is confirmed, it's just a Facebook post without a source. Maybe I've just been living under a rock for years, but news of a jail sentence (or any kind of sentence) for IP infringement from China still sounds... uncanny. i agree with out a legit source its just a post
i remember waaay back a Chines company built a KO of BMW X5, when BMW sue them the case was dismissed because they weren't able to see any similarities between the two cars
bottom line they will troll the hell out of whoever they copy
What? Just make separate threads for separate figures in the appropriate forum sections.
that's why i said "share in this thread first"
i mean come on about a year and half later this thread is still alive and kicking, so why not share here first to make sure every one see whats new for Voltron
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Jul 1, 2018 14:10:55 GMT -5
that's why i said "share in this thread first" i mean come on about a year and half later this thread is still alive and kicking, so why not share here first to make sure every one see whats new for Voltron
Why share anything to this post at all which isn't related to the item itself? That to me is like saying all new Mazinger toy info should be shared to the Metal Build Mazinger thread first. I'm not arguing because I've had my SOC Voltrons since release and I'm "good" but for people who are potentially looking for it or relevant news pertaining to it or a re release I'm sure it sucks to click the thread and see pages of posts about the Voltron LD cartoon, the KOB Voltron toys, etc. etc..
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Post by S_Gokin on Jul 2, 2018 2:00:34 GMT -5
Why share anything to this post at all which isn't related to the item itself? That to me is like saying all new Mazinger toy info should be shared to the Metal Build Mazinger thread first. I'm not arguing because I've had my SOC Voltrons since release and I'm "good" but for people who are potentially looking for it or relevant news pertaining to it or a re release I'm sure it sucks to click the thread and see pages of posts about the Voltron LD cartoon, the KOB Voltron toys, etc. etc..
you got a point my friend , but you just answered your self
people who already own the SOC and people who missed it, will make sure not to miss any other cool Voltron figure, that's why i think its a good thing to share info here first since the thread is still active and more companies are interested in make a figure for Voltron
for me personally i didn't know about the Super Minipla Voltron if i didn't check on this thread, because that figure was in a totally different section that i rarely check
same with the fantasy jewel version even tho im not interested in getting it, others got really interested in it
lastly its a bit unfair to compare Voltron to Mazinger, i mean how many mazingers in the SOC line in fact how many Mazinger z Bandai made lol, in the other hand there is only one Voltron in the SOC line so naturally it will become a hotter product, you will never go dry on Mazinger z you still can get most of the GXs in a reasonable price (except some of the exclusives)
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Jul 2, 2018 10:33:43 GMT -5
I can't answer myself if I didn't ask a question.
Don't understand why posting on topic is something that's argued; particularly in such length with it being such a simple concept. However it's what it is and if admins approve it, it's obviously fine. Just have the OP change the title to "Voltron Toys" then so people don't actually click it expecting things relevant to the SoC.
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Post by S_Gokin on Jul 2, 2018 12:16:42 GMT -5
I can't answer myself if I didn't ask a question. Don't understand why posting on topic is something that's argued; particularly in such length with it being such a simple concept. However it's what it is and if admins approve it, it's obviously fine. Just have the OP change the title to "Voltron Toys" then so people don't actually click it expecting things relevant to the SoC.
Jul 1, 2018 22:10:55 GMT 3 KumaStyle.com (TJ) said: Why share anything to this post at all which isn't related to the item itself? wasn't that a question mark at the end of your sentence ? come one bro
no need to change anything since this thread is at least %99 dedicated to the SOC, its just some posts in this thread are talking about other Voltron toys not entire pages
at the end these toys got their own threads and every one happy
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Post by gingaio on Jul 2, 2018 12:26:26 GMT -5
I'm not trying to take sides and I don't have anything against anyone here. Just speaking as someone who checks this board very infrequently these days...I clicked on this thread specifically for news about the SOC Voltron (had one, sold it, regretted it, waiting for reissue). I could do without all the posts that are not related to the SOC Voltron. The off-topic posts just get me hyped for nothing, as I have no interest in Lego, KBB, or whatnot, and even if I were interested, I know about them from other toy sites/threads not devoted to this Chogokin. Or...http://robotjapan.proboards.com/thread/3020/soul-chogokin-forum-guidelines (" 1. Keep discussion on-topic.") I do agree that unrelated things should be posted to the appropriate forums. There's really no point in arguing otherwise. I mean, it's just how these boards and these threads are supposed to work. Of course, "should work" and "actually works" aren't always the same thing.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Jul 2, 2018 12:51:31 GMT -5
wasn't that a question mark at the end of your sentence ? You're correct; I did answer myself when I said that it's pointless, irrelevant sh*tposting. My apologies. I guess that about wraps it up then since that's the answer (per you) and I hope it changes but since there's apparently some sort of pushback about keeping threads on topic (which seems like common sense on top of being a rule) nothing will which is unfortunate. And just for the record, this thread isn't "99% about SOC Voltron" at this point and not even close. "Playmates announced a plastic, non-transforming Voltron Legendary Defender Set; it should be talked about in the Bandai Soul of Chogokin Voltron thread." - This is the (lack of) logic that's being defended/excused right now and I can't humor it, so I'm out.
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Post by sta on Jul 2, 2018 14:44:57 GMT -5
I contributed to VLD posts but what's right is right, kuma and other guy are much justified in asking for thread to be kept on topic and yeah we had a bit of fun and discussion but it should return now to original topic
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Post by S_Gokin on Jul 2, 2018 15:37:04 GMT -5
You're correct; I did answer myself when I said that it's pointless, irrelevant sh*tposting. My apologies. I guess that about wraps it up then since that's the answer (per you) and I hope it changes but since there's apparently some sort of pushback about keeping threads on topic (which seems like common sense on top of being a rule) nothing will which is unfortunate. And just for the record, this thread isn't "99% about SOC Voltron" at this point and not even close. "Playmates announced a plastic, non-transforming Voltron Legendary Defender Set; it should be talked about in the Bandai Soul of Chogokin Voltron thread." - This is the (lack of) logic that's being defended/excused right now and I can't humor it, so I'm out.
well someone is clearly pissed lol, listen dude no need to use **** words ok keep it civil, and dont imagine stuff go and read the past pages it’s just hand full of posts addressing new figures for voltron not for hello kitty, it not full pages talking about something off topic, it become off topic because of your posts ordering people what and where to post
Also you keep answering yourself lol, you just said PLASTIC so does it belong in this thread? do is it even belong to this section ? of course not but some members only check in this section, so (logically) it will be posted here then it will gets its own thread, simple as that
FYI these side topics is going on for such a long time, in most of the threads, here is some examples
1-GX-72 Daizyujin side topics The Dragon Caesar Black repaint version
2-Metal Build Mazinger z
Many talks about MB Great Mazinger
Talks about two model kits for Mazinger z and Great Mazinger Talks about a huge Vinyl figure Talks about MB Infinity
Talks about the movie
3-GX-70 (you will just adore this one) Talks about getting a damaged version Talks about Devil Man DC Talks about Ankoku Dai shogun DC Talks about the GX-70VS set Talks about an actual damage version
Talks about possible DC releases
Talks about the chrome version
Talks about the bluish limbs version
and many many more, most of these side topic got its own threads later on, its just how things go
so if these side topics upset you, then I guess you and whoever get upset by them will be upset for a long long time
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Jul 2, 2018 18:54:39 GMT -5
I'm going to ignore the rambling and just move on;
Granted Bandai actually had the rights and the go ahead to re release SOC Voltron whenever they wanted, do you feel they'd pull the trigger or wait some years?
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Post by greengetterguy on Jul 2, 2018 19:30:54 GMT -5
Imagin if Bandai released "anime" colored one....oh my
Maybe even a "jumbo vinyl inspired" colored ones?...ooooh~~~
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Post by batsugun21 on Jul 2, 2018 20:14:57 GMT -5
I hope everyone who missed the GX-71 gets a chance to have one. It is one of my favorite Voltron figures along with the Icarus Toys Voltron. However, I would be more interested in getting an SOC Netflix Legendary Defender Voltron. I really like the new design. It is the perfect evolution of Voltron. I have the metal defender Voltron from playmates. It’s a fun toy but it no comparison to an SOC.
Whatever comes next, I really hope for more Chogokin Voltrons. Perhaps since the toy line died WEP will focus more on collectors.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Jul 2, 2018 20:42:29 GMT -5
I'm going to ignore the rambling and just move on; Granted Bandai actually had the rights and the go ahead to re release SOC Voltron whenever they wanted, do you feel they'd pull the trigger or wait some years? Yes, let's move on. Wasn't this the fastest SOC sellout for Bandai? Thought I read that somewhere. If so, they could release it whenever. It'd be like printing money. Sooner would be better for me, though. I agree. I'd love for them to strike while the iron's hot. It's so crazy that the design is so good that even third parties really don't seem like they'll be able to do anything better for the foreseeable ever.
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Post by S_Gokin on Jul 3, 2018 5:58:15 GMT -5
Yes, let's move on. Wasn't this the fastest SOC sellout for Bandai? Thought I read that somewhere. If so, they could release it whenever. It'd be like printing money. Sooner would be better for me, though.
nope the fastest sellout was and still the GX-31V, even the 2nd reissue sold out in no time, almost immediately after the release the asking price for it was at least triple
GX-71 was available during the preorder time, and it was available for reasonable price after the release, it got a boost in price gradually
i think it will take some time for a reissue or an R version
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Post by nycprime on Jul 3, 2018 8:22:54 GMT -5
I'm unfamiliar with SOC in general. Has there been a case where Bandai reissued a figure very quickly, or do they generally tend to wait a few (or many) years? Given how much people want this figure, I'm surprised they don't reissue as quickly as they can. Just trying to get a better understanding of why Bandai would wait. I think someone also previously mentioned it could be a factory issue?
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Jul 3, 2018 9:54:09 GMT -5
I agree. I'd love for them to strike while the iron's hot. It's so crazy that the design is so good that even third parties really don't seem like they'll be able to do anything better for the foreseeable ever. If I had to nitpick, I would say the shoulder locking mechanism could have been designed to be easier to use. But that's way minor. Otherwise, one of the best toys I ever had (and freaking sold). Agreed with one of the shoulder locks needing to be pushed in every so often on mine but the thing is that it's always because I'm just standing over it and noticed it... I've literally never had a shoulder come loose or out because that thing wasn't pressed in even during play. I'm unfamiliar with SOC in general. Has there been a case where Bandai reissued a figure very quickly, or do they generally tend to wait a few (or many) years? Given how much people want this figure, I'm surprised they don't reissue as quickly as they can. Just trying to get a better understanding of why Bandai would wait. I think someone also previously mentioned it could be a factory issue? No... normally not quickly at all and I can see why in the sense of cannibalizing themselves because then you've got recently released stuff competing with older stuff and ultimately one's going to lose where when you've got a release years later you've got a lot more hype and time to have come up with real, significant improvements whether it be engineering or color. I also think it's a way of training consumers to buy things now because the expectation of them just going ahead and releasing something within a year will make a lot of people hesitate and put money elsewhere.
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