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Post by mrclean08 on Sept 3, 2021 18:51:30 GMT -5
I always felt that the GX-71 design was already outdated by the time we all first received it back in 2017. I always suspected that Bandai Japan R&D already had the designs engineered years before they finally released it, but that it just wasn't green lighted until the licensing debacle was settled with WEP. It did not feel or look like a 2017 toy. It felt like it was 5 years behind even!
While it was extremely cool to finally have an SOC version, nothing was "revolutionary" about the engineering in my opinion. GX-71 felt similar to the engineering standards and toy technology from the late GX-50's and early GX-60's of 2010-2011. (Ex: Daltanious, God Sigma, Daioja etc.)
The irony is the Blitzway version is what I was originally envisioning the official SOC GX-71 to be. Taller, hidden lion legs gimmicks, mini pilots, the "rainbow" display stand, and a more elongated anime accurate aesthetic in Golion/Voltron mode (without the need for thigh upgrades), etc. In other words, I feel like GX-71 wasn't truly the Golion/Voltron we were all patiently waiting for. And if Blitzway's quality comes close to the SOC, we likely have a superior, albeit expensive, premium Golion chogokin that raises the bar for all serious Golion competitor products.
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Post by zman on Sept 4, 2021 11:48:11 GMT -5
Is the re-issue out yet? BBTS states Sep. 2021.
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Post by shingetterova on Sept 4, 2021 13:39:14 GMT -5
Is the re-issue out yet? BBTS states Sep. 2021. Was released last month on jp, so i asume will take a month (or more, due to port issues on california) before arrive to us distributors. I preordered mine on lunar toy store, us$335.00 with flat shipping to FL |
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Post by zman on Sept 4, 2021 14:21:32 GMT -5
^^^ Cool. Thanks for the update.
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Post by Magmatron on Sept 4, 2021 14:26:55 GMT -5
It's strange seeing people calling this outdated at release when I originally had the impression that many still hold it as the gold standard that all SOC figures should be judged against.
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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 4, 2021 16:00:33 GMT -5
I always felt that the GX-71 design was already outdated by the time we all first received it back in 2017. I always suspected that Bandai Japan R&D already had the designs engineered years before they finally released it, but that it just wasn't green lighted until the licensing debacle was settled with WEP. It did not feel or look like a 2017 toy. It felt like it was 5 years behind even! While it was extremely cool to finally have an SOC version, nothing was "revolutionary" about the engineering in my opinion. GX-71 felt similar to the engineering standards and toy technology from the late GX-50's and early GX-60's of 2010-2011. (Ex: Daltanious, God Sigma, Daioja etc.) The irony is the Blitzway version is what I was originally envisioning the official SOC GX-71 to be. Taller, hidden lion legs gimmicks, mini pilots, the "rainbow" display stand, and a more elongated anime accurate aesthetic in Golion/Voltron mode (without the need for thigh upgrades), etc. In other words, I feel like GX-71 wasn't truly the Golion/Voltron we were all patiently waiting for. And if Blitzway's quality comes close to the SOC, we likely have a superior, albeit expensive, premium Golion chogokin that raises the bar for all serious Golion competitor products.
bro what are you talking about, this is the first time we dont agree on something lol
maybe you forgot but the SOC was and still the best Voltron in the market today, before the SOC we had nothing, Toynami was selling us the same thing for years just different names, the King of Beast gave us hope and it did it job, but when the SOC got released it took that spot in a heart beat
the SOC introduce something we never saw before which is a neck for the lions they cared about both the lions mode and the robot mode, also the lions were able to set like a real lions not to mention its dead accurate in lions modes, and its among the tallest SOCs , the GX50 is still a decent figure lack a bit in the articulation but still not bad for 11 years old figure
5pro Voltron hide "some legs" not all of them, look at the yellow and the blue lions front legs they are not covered due to the fact they support the robot weight, they could come up with the way to hide them, but this way it looks really odd, either hide them all or show them all, i guess its the same reason why Bandai didnt hide them in the first place, not to mention its overpriced (still in stock in most) stores you could buy both GX71 & GX88 for that asking price
looking at the GX88 you can get an idea what Bandai could do if they want to go full power on the GX71, for me personally it lack two things LEDs and white paint thats it
it would be really interesting to see what if Pose + did voltron, since they prove it time after time they know how to engineer stuff
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Post by mrclean08 on Sept 4, 2021 23:07:05 GMT -5
I always felt that the GX-71 design was already outdated by the time we all first received it back in 2017. I always suspected that Bandai Japan R&D already had the designs engineered years before they finally released it, but that it just wasn't green lighted until the licensing debacle was settled with WEP. It did not feel or look like a 2017 toy. It felt like it was 5 years behind even! While it was extremely cool to finally have an SOC version, nothing was "revolutionary" about the engineering in my opinion. GX-71 felt similar to the engineering standards and toy technology from the late GX-50's and early GX-60's of 2010-2011. (Ex: Daltanious, God Sigma, Daioja etc.) The irony is the Blitzway version is what I was originally envisioning the official SOC GX-71 to be. Taller, hidden lion legs gimmicks, mini pilots, the "rainbow" display stand, and a more elongated anime accurate aesthetic in Golion/Voltron mode (without the need for thigh upgrades), etc. In other words, I feel like GX-71 wasn't truly the Golion/Voltron we were all patiently waiting for. And if Blitzway's quality comes close to the SOC, we likely have a superior, albeit expensive, premium Golion chogokin that raises the bar for all serious Golion competitor products. bro what are you talking about, this is the first time we dont agree on something lol
maybe you forgot but the SOC was and still the best Voltron in the market today, before the SOC we had nothing, Toynami was selling us the same thing for years just different names, the King of Beast gave us hope and it did it job, but when the SOC got released it took that spot in a heart beat
the SOC introduce something we never saw before which is a neck for the lions they cared about both the lions mode and the robot mode, also the lions were able to set like a real lions not to mention its dead accurate in lions modes, and its among the tallest SOCs , the GX50 is still a decent figure lack a bit in the articulation but still not bad for 11 years old figure
5pro Voltron hide "some legs" not all of them, look at the yellow and the blue lions front legs they are not covered due to the fact they support the robot weight, they could come up with the way to hide them, but this way it looks really odd, either hide them all or show them all, i guess its the same reason why Bandai didnt hide them in the first place, not to mention its overpriced (still in stock in most) stores you could buy both GX71 & GX88 for that asking price
looking at the GX88 you can get an idea what Bandai could do if they want to go full power on the GX71, for me personally it lack two things LEDs and white paint thats it
it would be really interesting to see what if Pose + did voltron, since they prove it time after time they know how to engineer stuff
Mannnnn, I didn't forget anything. lol I don't disagree with you that GX-71 is still the best Voltron in the market today. The Toynami one only thrived because it had zero competition as a so-called "Masterpiece" product, but was average at best. And to me, the SOC blows away any of the Icarus releases. What I said was I suspected Bandai possibly COULD HAVE designed and engineered GX-71 at a time prior to when it was actually released, and that it felt a bit outdated technology wise. And I could be completely wrong. That is just my theory. We will never know. If Pose+ did Voltron it would be just as expensive as 5Pro. You ain't getting a Pose+ Voltron for cheaper than the 5Pro version. Pose+ is expensive AF. Pose+ GaoGaiGar is gonna be $650ish and is only 10.25" tall. If Pose+ did a 15" Voltron, tell me how much you think it would cost. |
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Post by bocasas on Sept 5, 2021 0:37:14 GMT -5
I still consider voltron among the top tier socs. I mean, when it came out it became toty for a reason. It was the pinnacle of soc evolution and still holds up. There is no perfect figure (this hobby is always evolving and thing get better and better). it could be better, of course, like any other figure out there. I don't think it was a dated figure when it came out, bandai released the megazord after this one and, even when I think it's a better figure (voltron is an easy combiner, since each mecha is a limb), most people praised voltron and said megazord wasn't good enough. Probably bandai will release an R version of this one, and I guess they will add the covers.
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Post by mrclean08 on Sept 5, 2021 2:52:49 GMT -5
I still consider voltron among the top tier socs. I mean, when it came out it became toty for a reason. It was the pinnacle of soc evolution and still holds up. There is no perfect figure (this hobby is always evolving and thing get better and better). it could be better, of course, like any other figure out there. I don't think it was a dated figure when it came out, bandai released the megazord after this one and, even when I think it's a better figure (voltron is an easy combiner, since each mecha is a limb), most people praised voltron and said megazord wasn't good enough. Probably bandai will release an R version of this one, and I guess they will add the covers. I think the biggest thing I was hoping for prior to when GX-71 was finally revealed, was that Bandai would find a way to hide the lion legs gimmick to make it anime on screen accurate. It bugged me then and it still bugs me now. If we do get a GX-71R, I think the renewal version would have slightly different colors and the vintage Popy homage box. In my opinion, I don't think they'll add covers to it. |
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Post by bocasas on Sept 5, 2021 9:55:46 GMT -5
I still consider voltron among the top tier socs. I mean, when it came out it became toty for a reason. It was the pinnacle of soc evolution and still holds up. There is no perfect figure (this hobby is always evolving and thing get better and better). it could be better, of course, like any other figure out there. I don't think it was a dated figure when it came out, bandai released the megazord after this one and, even when I think it's a better figure (voltron is an easy combiner, since each mecha is a limb), most people praised voltron and said megazord wasn't good enough. Probably bandai will release an R version of this one, and I guess they will add the covers. I think the biggest thing I was hoping for prior to when GX-71 was finally revealed, was that Bandai would find a way to hide the lion legs gimmick to make it anime on screen accurate. It bugged me then and it still bugs me now. If we do get a GX-71R, I think the renewal version would have slightly different colors and the vintage Popy homage box. In my opinion, I don't think they'll add covers to it. May be... many R add things to make them more screen accurate. Like gx13r head, or gx60r extra parts for combining... they have no trouble adding some plastic parts, last year the showed a gx61 with plastic parts for vehicles mode (I'm still waiting it, I don't know source material but daiohja looks cool) |
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Post by mpchi on Sept 5, 2021 11:51:22 GMT -5
I believe Bandai skipped the "hide them legs" feature simply because they chose to, as a homage to the vintage one. Some fans may prefer anime accuracy, but don't forget others prefer toy accuracy (look at all the chrome they used on GX-71). Bandai chose to cater the latter. I don't think the engineering was from an old/outdated project. That blame belongs to Gordian (too obvious to be otherwise).  |
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Post by greengetterguy on Sept 5, 2021 14:30:06 GMT -5
I call Bandai “Ban-dAZY “ for a reason.
They could have added the cover as an accessory….
But At the time, I was Just too happy and glad just to have it but MY, lots changed since haha.
To little old me, It def STILL IS one of if not THE best Chogokin EVER~!
AND It def IS a golden ruler for ALL Gokin tobe judged by, BUT this ruler seems to get shorter and shorter every time the likes of Pose + and others release their Gokin….
The king can’t rule forever.
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Post by mrclean08 on Sept 5, 2021 15:32:59 GMT -5
I call Bandai “Ban-dAZY “ for a reason. They could have added the cover as an accessory…. But At the time, I was Just too happy and glad just to have it but MY, lots changed since haha. To little old me, It def STILL IS one of if not THE best Chogokin EVER~! AND It def IS a golden ruler for ALL Gokin tobe judged by, BUT this ruler seems to get shorter and shorter every time the likes of Pose + and others release their Gokin…. The king can’t rule forever. Agreed. Even though the costs of gokins have gone up considerably, it's really good to know we live in exciting times where there is some stiff competition for Bandai. Pose+ and Artstorm/Action Toys keep raising the bar. So it's a win win for all of us in that respect. I'm relieved that we aren't just limited to other competitor brands like Evolution Toys and 10-15 years ago, CM's Corp. They get some nice licensing; however, their product quality was hit or miss. That being said, I also have the GX-71 thigh upgrades that Brandon Wong sells. But I have not yet installed it on my GX-71. I should do it this weekend since its a 3-day weekend in the US. |
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Post by shingetterova on Sept 5, 2021 16:17:48 GMT -5
I dont consider pose+ competition. I mean, it cater a different league, those who looks for modern interpretation of the figure. His gaogaigar looks nice, but is not for me. It looks.... kind of busy? Noisy? Too many liberties on the desing and way more mechanized.
What i really love on figures is beign close to the original desing as possible . I love my gaogaigar, i love voltron gx 71, 88, And such.
I like the carbotix one, but price wise is too expensive (even for me, who preodered 2 gx-100 sets, since daikumaryu and gaiking are my all time favorites) .
At most this voltron should have cost $495.00, not us$700 bucks.
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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 5, 2021 17:08:05 GMT -5
Mannnnn, I didn't forget anything. lol I don't disagree with you that GX-71 is still the best Voltron in the market today. The Toynami one only thrived because it had zero competition as a so-called "Masterpiece" product, but was average at best. And to me, the SOC blows away any of the Icarus releases. What I said was I suspected Bandai possibly COULD HAVE designed and engineered GX-71 at a time prior to when it was actually released, and that it felt a bit outdated technology wise. And I could be completely wrong. That is just my theory. We will never know. If Pose+ did Voltron it would be just as expensive as 5Pro. You ain't getting a Pose+ Voltron for cheaper than the 5Pro version. Pose+ is expensive AF. Pose+ GaoGaiGar is gonna be $650ish and is only 10.25" tall. If Pose+ did a 15" Voltron, tell me how much you think it would cost.
i understand your point of view dont worry, all im saying is hiding some legs and making a figure bigger doesn't necessary mean better
let me put my nerd glasses on
as you see the there is no legs in the picture BUT there is these circles in the blue and yellow lions, the 5 Pro hide the legs yes but its not completely clean, you can see the circles everywhere AND the front legs for the blue and yellow lions, not to mention the sculpt is not as sharp or clean as the SOC just tiny side by side comparison to lions heads and you will see how got it right
there is only one accurate Voltron in the market and its the Mattel Blazing Sword Voltron thats it, it looks very childish yes but with Gundam marker you could bring it to life
back to pose +, i dont think it will be as expensive as 5 Pro, since Voltron is an easy combiner there isnt alot of anime magic going on even if they did make i dont think they will go crazy like 5 Pro and give it $700 as a price tag, maybe it will be around $450
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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 5, 2021 17:16:30 GMT -5
I call Bandai “Ban-dAZY “ for a reason. They could have added the cover as an accessory…. But At the time, I was Just too happy and glad just to have it but MY, lots changed since haha. To little old me, It def STILL IS one of if not THE best Chogokin EVER~! AND It def IS a golden ruler for ALL Gokin tobe judged by, BUT this ruler seems to get shorter and shorter every time the likes of Pose + and others release their Gokin…. The king can’t rule forever.
naaah you dont know a thing, Bandai will give you a half baked Voltron and they will milk it, then when you think you are done they will try to lure you with an R version, then boooom a new Voltron not even an R version but a complete new one
dont forget the SOC is about 4 years old, not that old but the technology jumped look at the GX88 for example
i think the competition will force Bandai to be more careful and rise the bar even more, there is still alot of super robot that need to be made, check my wish list that is still standing till today lol
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Post by bocasas on Sept 5, 2021 18:01:36 GMT -5
Well also we must take into account that the soc voltron retail price was and still is 300usd... pose+ and action toys ask far more for theirs products. The pose+ godam is a wonderful piece but the retail price was arround 450usd and is not even a combiner (also I found pose+ releases to be pretty close to screen accuracy. godam, goshogun, gold lightan), the only one that go far from source material is their gaogaigar but I think it belongs to a different line. I love what pose+ is doing, and I really think their stuff worth their asking price, but also Im priced out there.
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Post by greengetterguy on Sept 5, 2021 18:04:26 GMT -5
Oh come on S. now…..I wouldn’t exactly call GX71 half baked.
But You’re right about “Bandai R” though.
White limbs, Narrower chest, longer thigh and neck, then add those leg cover and BOOM, Sell millions!
Now where is my cut Bandai?
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Post by mrclean08 on Sept 5, 2021 18:35:03 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the deal is with Bandai having the license to continue making Golion products? Are they prohibited now that 5Pro is making Voltron? I still want a SOC F.A. Golion.
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Post by greengetterguy on Sept 5, 2021 19:16:39 GMT -5
I’m guessing here but I think Industry “micro process” license.
So for example, 5 Pro only have a license for 15 inch diecast Voltron so Bandai CAN still make 9 inch diecast SOC which Bandai bought such license for the duration for 10 years.
Bandai can negotiate for 7 inch diecast figure license for Voltron IF they want.
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