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Post by Coletron on Oct 4, 2017 18:13:39 GMT -5
this looks pretty cool, are they doing a release for the original colors as well? I'd probably pick that one up. Yes. ICARUS plans to release one in the original colors. I have the 1st version and I definitely recommend picking one of these up. They are AWESOME. |
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Post by Guapisimo on Oct 5, 2017 15:18:50 GMT -5
Icarus Toys says late November for the regular version.
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Post by faelon on Oct 5, 2017 21:40:22 GMT -5
Icarus Toys says late November for the regular version. Icarus Toys says a lot of things... did they actually specify a Year? |
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 6, 2017 0:23:19 GMT -5
Icarus Toys says a lot of things... did they actually specify a Year? man you should be the last person to talk about it  the figure is been released world wide without any problems even its not officially licensed i guess it will be the same for the regular color but when only god knows joking aside we never saw the production of the regular color and we didnt saw much of it like we did with this black version for me i hope they delay it abit more so i can get one |
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Post by smokinchogokin on Oct 6, 2017 5:32:33 GMT -5
Next summer sounds good. I've got too many bots on preorder. Lol
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Post by faelon on Oct 7, 2017 0:47:04 GMT -5
Icarus Toys says a lot of things... did they actually specify a Year? man you should be the last person to talk about it the figure is been released world wide without any problems even its not officially licensed i guess it will be the same for the regular color but when only god knows joking aside we never saw the production of the regular color and we didnt saw much of it like we did with this black version for me i hope they delay it abit more so i can get one I have always said the Black One would hit the street. That was obvious from the moment they started showing pics of production parts. One way or another it was getting out there. Someone was going to end up with those parts and sell them. It's the nature of Hong Kong manufacturing. It just has a shaky distribution chain and some real customs risks to it should you get popped for a random "lets see whats in the box" check. Not that likely for individual single product imports. But a certainty for vendors like BBTS. Now the normal full color version? That one I have some major doubts about. They may pull it off, but like I said over on TFW2005 you can tell a few things from the order that they are producing these. Normally a manufacturer does the larger "regular version" of a product like this first, because it amortizes the costs of the tooling and development. But normally they are carrying up front legit loans to pay for that tooling etc. They pay for the tooling loans and make some decent profit with the main release, then they go back and do a recolor that is pure profit taking. (Yeah folks, that's what recolors are. The tools and dies are already paid for so any extra runs are money in the bank.) But where you see that pattern reverse is where finances are stretched really really thin and the vendor cannot get outside or legit financing and loans. In this case they almost certainly did the Black first because it was cheaper. It's a smaller "special" run. Plus it actually costs less at the factory as it has fewer production color changes. They are doing the Special run first in the hopes that it can generate enough revenue returns to get them over the financing hump to get at least a portion of the main run into the factory. In case nobody has figured it out, almost certainly most of the delays with these have been lack of funds holding up stages of production until they could beg borrow or steal to get to the next stage. (Hopefully they didn't get creative enough to borrow from the Hong Kong mob. That happened to an associate of my old boss that we sometimes dealt with. Last I heard he was on the run under an assumed name, somewhere in Canada.) For the full color regular KOB? I'd call the odds 60/40. The only thing it has going for it is the tooling exists. So it's going to pass through hands to somebody who will eventually make use of it for something somewhere. I'm just not sure that Icarus has the backend financing to release it. They may end up handing off the tooling to whoever comes next. (Just as they got it). |
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Post by smokinchogokin on Oct 7, 2017 5:12:54 GMT -5
Very interesting!! Thanks for sharing this knowledge. I've been messaging w Icarus and they told there were 1000 made, they kept 20 for themselves and are already "sold out". I would imagine and hope we'll get the KOB 2.0 in the next 12-18 months. Who knows though
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Post by vgm on Oct 7, 2017 7:17:19 GMT -5
Always had faith that it would be released.
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 7, 2017 10:28:24 GMT -5
good infos, but i remember you said it will be stopped by the customs because it isn't a legit product also they will have hard time to sell it and you missed a huge point that they made ton of cash selling the first KOB every hardcore fan got one, i remember some members here got two this is more like an R version (repaint) so thats in your words money in the bank i say lets give them some time and see |
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Post by faelon on Oct 7, 2017 21:14:50 GMT -5
good infos, but i remember you said it will be stopped by the customs because it isn't a legit product also they will have hard time to sell it and you missed a huge point that they made ton of cash selling the first KOB every hardcore fan got one, i remember some members here got two this is more like an R version (repaint) so thats in your words money in the bank i say lets give them some time and see I said it CAN be stopped and seized by customs. They don't actually look in every box unless the drug sniffing dogs get curious. Since the US does not impose import taxes the way many nations do, they don't overly scrutinize the shipping papers much either. At least for small order private individual improt items. A vendor such as BBTS or similar will get checked. The issue is mainly risk. Because its a trademark fraud customs can and will seize and destroy it if they happen to discover it, and you have no recourse. I'm pretty sure that no HK vendor will re-imburse or refund you for product seized by customs. What I said was don't spend more for this thing than you are prepared to lose, because you will have no safety net. |
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 8, 2017 8:36:44 GMT -5
I said it CAN be stopped and seized by customs. They don't actually look in every box unless the drug sniffing dogs get curious. Since the US does not impose import taxes the way many nations do, they don't overly scrutinize the shipping papers much either. At least for small order private individual improt items. A vendor such as BBTS or similar will get checked. The issue is mainly risk. Because its a trademark fraud customs can and will seize and destroy it if they happen to discover it, and you have no recourse. I'm pretty sure that no HK vendor will re-imburse or refund you for product seized by customs. What I said was don't spend more for this thing than you are prepared to lose, because you will have no safety net. i honestly dont have a huge idea about the customs in other countries, but its the same thing they rather catch something big, but toys and knock out stuff no care much lol tho thanks for explaining how things work in your country  |
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Post by batsugun on Oct 9, 2017 1:27:13 GMT -5
Very interesting!! Thanks for sharing this knowledge. I've been messaging w Icarus and they told there were 1000 made, they kept 20 for themselves and are already "sold out". I would imagine and hope we'll get the KOB 2.0 in the next 12-18 months. Who knows though Why do you say it’s sold out? Still shows in stock at Toysrepublic. |
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Post by smokinchogokin on Oct 9, 2017 14:35:14 GMT -5
Howdy!!!
This is an IM I got from Icarus. I guess he's saying they shipped all 980 as in sold out on their end.
"thank you very much! we are really appreciated that! if you don't mind, we can share you photos on our facebook pages. the black version we just made 1000pcs and all of are sold out. we just kept 20pcs for ourselve. ^^"
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 10, 2017 8:45:30 GMT -5
yea the Black version is limited, but im not sure if they got it ALL since other stores are offering it
so i guess every store will have a small amount of units
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 20, 2017 9:47:51 GMT -5
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Post by FixedInPost on Oct 20, 2017 13:16:42 GMT -5
This looks pretty great. Just a tad too expensive for my taste. $250 shipped and maybe I'd jump on it.
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Post by smokinchogokin on Oct 20, 2017 13:38:34 GMT -5
Got it for 300 and it's worth every penny. Stunning badassery
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 20, 2017 13:47:05 GMT -5
to be honest after watching the review in high resolution i think its a very good gokin
i want to see the regular version now
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Post by smokinchogokin on Oct 20, 2017 13:59:15 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to seeing Dancouga next to DV. I think they'll compliment each other well. Just waiting on the Dancouga R to release.
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Post by Coletron on Oct 20, 2017 19:55:48 GMT -5
This looks completely awesome. It's cool that WEP approved the licensing. This really is a standout piece deserving of the name "Voltron".
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