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Post by xiombarg on Oct 6, 2005 22:17:51 GMT -5
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Post by jwm on Oct 6, 2005 22:57:43 GMT -5
Looks like a cool toy. I do not have any Valkyries, and I've seen only one episode of the show in its 'Robotech' incarnation. It didn't do much for me, but I like the Valk nonetheless. If a collector wanted to add Just one token Valkyrie to a collection of SOC and Gundam figures which Valk would it be? What's the best one?
throwing the apple of discord?
JWM
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Post by xiombarg on Oct 7, 2005 0:24:00 GMT -5
The Galaxy Defender! Just kidding. That's a good question, and actually I'm not a fan of Robotech at all. In fact, I can't stand it, but I do appreciate the Valkyrie for being possibly the best Henkei/Gattai ever designed. As far as the best Valkyrie, I think it can pretty much be narrowed down to one of four. The Takatoku Super Valkyrie, the Bandai Strike Valkyrie (see pics), the Elintseeker, or maybe the GBP-1S Armored Valkyrie. When it comes to straight up aesthetics, I went for the Strike Valkyrie. It's somewhat the same as the Super Valkyrie with a couple of key differences. It has a back mounted cannon, and the color is white/black/red. The Super Valkyrie is much more rare and doesn't have the back mounted cannon. It's colors are military tope/yellow/black. I wrestled between these two for quite awhile before I decided which one to buy, but eventually decided I liked the Strike Valkyrie better. As for the Elintseeker, it's cool, especially in plane mode as it looks like an AWAX radar plane, but it's very rare and usually rediculously expensive. The last would be the GBP-1S Armored Valkyrie. I'm not personally a big fan, but a lot of people are. Kind of looks like a Valkyrie in an inflatable suit.
Then there's the question of whether to go with new or old. I'm usually all for new, but in this case I'm not a fan of the Yamato versions. I like the huskier look of the Takatoku and Bandai versions personally, but of course you don't get the same amount of articulation and accessories with these as with the Yamatos. Also, the Yamatos are probably more anime accurate with the slimmer legs and longer noses. I'm not sure what the newer Bandai versions are like.
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Post by demizer on Oct 7, 2005 1:45:30 GMT -5
Hey X,enjoy!I'm waiting on a Bandai stealth,looks pretty cool.Know anything about it?
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Post by 00silvergt on Oct 7, 2005 2:29:06 GMT -5
Hey guys does Jetfire qualify as a "knock-off"? I know it was licensed since it was made by Bandai...However, next to Jetfire I would say that Galaxy defender is one of the best looking ones I've seen. How's the material composition?
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Post by Omni Existence on Oct 7, 2005 9:50:21 GMT -5
Congrats on that Valk, Xiombarg! I got one myself, for US$3.00 some time ago. It was on sale. I like to customize it, but don't have the time. The only thing I don't like about it is the looseness. Everything flops around... but for $3.00, I couldn't be happier. ;D jwm: If you want just one Macross Valkyrie on your display, the 1/48 from Yamato is the way to go. If it's too pricey, get a 1/55 Bandai re-issue.
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Post by xiombarg on Oct 7, 2005 9:54:42 GMT -5
Demizer, I've only seen pictures of the stealth. I haven't been able to see or handle one first hand, but it looks cool!
00silvergt, most Valk fans qualify Jetfire as legit. As for Galaxy Defender material composition, he uses the same placement of plastic and metal as the original Valk structure, but the quality of the material itself seems lower. The plastic is actually good rigid stuff, but the metal doesn't look like high grade. The main overall noticable difference with him and an original Valk is that he isn't as tight all around. Nothing on mine specifically is loose, but just handling him, things move a bit here and there, unlike the originals where everything is really solid. But when you keep in mind that this is basically a $10-20 dollar figure, compared to an original Valk which even twenty years ago sold retail for probably around $30, the Galaxy Defender is a bargain. The only thing is, they don't pop up on eBay too often. I had to wait around for 6 - 8 months before I saw one, but based on the packaging this is the kind of figure you would find at bargain stores, or even Grocery store toy aisles because it's obviously from a really generic line of toys, so you might look around at places like Big Lots or TJ Maxx.
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Post by demizer on Oct 7, 2005 23:38:23 GMT -5
Hey I got my vf-17s valk.and I'm very disapointed.Not a lick of diecast on it.I have what I understand is a pretty rare bandai hi-metal vf-1s which is all dc.and huge.I dont know much about valks.but I like some of the designs and wanted to aquire more,but now I'll be hesitant after this one.unless Im absoulutely sure there is significant dc.I'm waiting for an L-gaim hi-metal which I know is only somewhat dc.but I know what to expect.Paid $75.00shipped for a plastic model.I know it's the going rate too,cause I checked around.If anyone knows of some valk reveiws I'd appreciate if you would post a link so I can research dc.content on the new models.
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Post by REX-203 on Oct 8, 2005 3:28:55 GMT -5
Looks awesome Xiombarg! When I heard about these a year (or so) ago, I scoured the WalMarts in my area looking for it, but was unsuccessful in my search. These are some of the best pics I've seen of it. It's especially nice to see it beside a real Valk. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Falconhood on Oct 8, 2005 6:17:24 GMT -5
i heard these were sold at Walmart, but i never could find them. i did find some Same Group knock-off of Power Rangers Turbo and In Space Megazords at the store called Roses. And at Walmart, a knock-off of the Macross Stealth Valkyrie with an ugly face that is too large...i bought it. but i did NOT buy the knock-off remake of Armada Megatron
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Post by Falconhood on Oct 8, 2005 6:18:21 GMT -5
i heard these were sold at Walmart, but i never could find them. i did find some Same Group knock-off of Power Rangers Turbo and In Space Megazords at the store called Roses. And at Walmart, a knock-off of the Macross Stealth Valkyrie with an ugly face that is too large...i bought it. but i did NOT buy the knock-off remake of Armada Megatron oops, i got the stealth Valk and SAW the KO Megatron at Wal-Mart
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Post by xiombarg on Oct 8, 2005 15:06:02 GMT -5
Demizer - From what I've seen none of the standard 1/55 Valks have much diecast. Even with the original Valks the only parts that are diecast are the lower leg portions, not including feet, and the semi-internal framework. It's been awhile since I handled a Yamato, but it seems there wasn't a whole lot of diecast on those either. Some of the smaller scale Valks look like they have more die-cast, but it might be a sacrifice of not transforming? I'm not familiar with those versions so I could be wrong on that.
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Post by Omni Existence on Oct 8, 2005 15:40:15 GMT -5
Demizer - From what I've seen none of the standard 1/55 Valks have much diecast. Even with the original Valks the only parts that are diecast are the lower leg portions, not including feet, and the semi-internal framework. It's been awhile since I handled a Yamato, but it seems there wasn't a whole lot of diecast on those either. Some of the smaller scale Valks look like they have more die-cast, but it might be a sacrifice of not transforming? I'm not familiar with those versions so I could be wrong on that. AFAIK, the 1/55's had die cast in the inner leg area (shins), shoulder hinge, landing gears, and the swing bar. The Yamato 1/60's had more diecast than the 1/55, but scarificed transformability for accuracy. The 1/48's have the least diecast content of the lot but has the best aesthetics, and perfect transformation. The only diecast parts of the Yamato 1/48 is the single swing arm, the hip-joints, and the landing gear struts. check out some side by side shots of the following: Yamato 1/48, Bandai 1/55, Toycom 1/55, Yamato 1/60, and Bandai 1/100 HCM.Hope that helps. ;D
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Post by xiombarg on Oct 8, 2005 17:03:14 GMT -5
Anyone know where to get 1/55 super/strike upgrade parts offhand? I'm going to search around and get a hold of a set to put on this Valk. I think it would look really cool.
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Post by demizer on Oct 8, 2005 19:46:42 GMT -5
Thank's Omni I was able to get alot of info on the sub.there,and I found out My high metal bandai is "BEND OVER"so I guess thats good.It seems the yamatos have a larger dc.content than the current bandais.
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Post by Omni Existence on Oct 9, 2005 9:03:08 GMT -5
Thank's Omni I was able to get alot of info on the sub.there,and I found out My high metal bandai is "BEND OVER"so I guess thats good.It seems the yamatos have a larger dc.content than the current bandais. You're most welcome! Glad to help out. True, the 1/60 Yamatos have considerably more diecast than any other Valkyrie toy. xiombarg: Dude, you may want to visit Macross World Forums(www.macrossworld.com). There are a couple of guys there (sorry, forgot their names already) that do custom 1/55 armor. You can contact Graham, or any of the mods there for info.
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Post by xiombarg on Oct 9, 2005 14:30:14 GMT -5
Cool, I'll have to check it out.
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Post by 00silvergt on Oct 16, 2005 0:36:14 GMT -5
POST 400! Woowhoo...OK I'm over it. What are the differences between the Bandai 1/55 and the Original Tak 1/55. I know they came from the same mold's the design is identical, are there differnces other than the Bandai branding?
Also, BTW, Thanks Xiombarg for the clarification, The 1/48 Yams...do you have to take the legs off to transform like it's smaller brother the 1/60?
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Post by Omni Existence on Oct 16, 2005 9:08:02 GMT -5
The 1/48 Yams...do you have to take the legs off to transform like it's smaller brother the 1/60? Nope. Perfect transformation. Even the Heat Shield is internal. Here: Graham's Yamato 1/48 VF-1A Review
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Oct 16, 2005 9:10:41 GMT -5
POST 400! Woowhoo...OK I'm over it. What are the differences between the Bandai 1/55 and the Original Tak 1/55. I know they came from the same mold's the design is identical, are there differnces other than the Bandai branding? Also, BTW, Thanks Xiombarg for the clarification, The 1/48 Yams...do you have to take the legs off to transform like it's smaller brother the 1/60? Valkyrie Factory used to have a good article about the various versions of the 1/55 classic (but the site's under construction now). I haven't a clue if it'll ever come up again... As for the 1/48, no, it's Perfect Transformation design; no parts-swapping. And best of all, no swing-bars visible in either Battroid mode or Fighter mode like the 1/55 design. The legs are attatched to a single die-cast swing-bar that flips down during transformation and snaps into place just above the nose-cose so that the "hips" are ball-jointed in just the right place. Very neat trick.
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