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Post by mechamasterj on Feb 10, 2011 22:23:05 GMT -5
Im curious to know what you think was the biggest imporvement you seen in figures in the past year and what do you see in the future?
In the past year I have seen that great improvements in articulation. Bandai has really pushed articulation in their Robot damashii line and even kaiayodo with revoltech.
I also noticed bandai really listening to fans cries for as they are really spreading their wings with the D-arts, Super Robot chogokins, and Side MS lines. We are all starting to get characters we have been waiting for quite some time.
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Post by magengar on Feb 10, 2011 23:36:07 GMT -5
PRICE, Detail, and Articulation seem to become greater each year. The downside is having a robot toy with all three qualities, only to have it turn out as a waste of money due to QC flaws. ;D
Back up on a happier note, it seems that Bandai (SOCs) and Kaiyodo (Revoltech figures) took things further and raised the standards on the pose-ability of action figures in this particular genre.
zozo-Magengar
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Post by xiombarg on Feb 11, 2011 1:50:43 GMT -5
I agree with Tony, Bandai's Super Robot Chogokin line is the future of robot figures. You get the maximum bang for your buck. Sometimes a little low on gimmicks, but quality, detail and metal for around $50. It's refreshing after all the years we had of figures getting into the $300 retail price range.
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Post by magengar on Feb 11, 2011 2:08:07 GMT -5
Of the two big guys, I'd say Bandai is in the lead ahead of the Other company (Whose name I will Not mention- because they Won't make a revo JJ! Grrrrr!)
The SOC line was the wake-up call to all manufacturers to start showing a lil mo' Respect to collectors when producing specimens of great quaLity over great quaNtity. It's been a rough decade for Bandai with their SOC line, and they've been through many Hits and Misses; but their product stands out setting the stage to challenge other manufacturers to either Step Up or Step Aside.
Then along came the SRC line........ it Totally blows the revoltech line outta the water in Quality and Accesories. The SRC line is one of the very few lines in which you can actually Share accessory packs between two related SRC figures (Mazinger-Z and Great Maz). You can swap parts amongst Revoltechs as easy as kids trade marbles, but that's child's-play compared to Bandai's high standards.
The other company's lagging behind while busy doing certain things Over and Over and Over again. Bandai sez "ok that's enough for now" and moves on. You can modify a revoltech figure; but you Dare NOT disfigure a Bandai product. ;D
zozo-Magengar
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Post by mechamasterj on Feb 11, 2011 14:54:06 GMT -5
Yeah bandai is really pushing the bar and not only in terms of articulation ( in which they currently hold the lead) but in character vearity! They are really widening the spectrum even going as far as to making super articulated kids toys like paraman and digimon. They are forcing other companies to step there game up like Haitian who seems to have the need to answer bandais evas. It seems people want articulation in the end over clean crisp sculpts (which kaiyodo offers over the competition)!
But wait there is a new kid on the block! Riobot seems to be a strong contender even tho they only released one figure so far that figure is oozing w style and articulation goodness so really looking forward to their future offerings.
And yes so awesome that srw is getting some affordable love my dreams are slowly coming into realization
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Post by 00silvergt on Feb 11, 2011 16:41:58 GMT -5
Yeah bandai is really pushing the bar and not only in terms of articulation " Have you seen/Built their DBZ kits? The biceps contract and expands...that's nuts. ;D
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Post by magengar on Feb 12, 2011 2:52:36 GMT -5
Really? Wow, that IS nuts! I gota see that in a youtube vid someday. ;D Contracting biceps on a "human" model kit seems like a fresh new, perhaps Innovative, idea to the toy world. Action figures that are interactive with the consumer. Imagine coming home from a hard day's work only to find yourself body-slammed by a Boss Borot toy and drop-kicked by an Damashii EVA. ;D zozo-magengar Yeah bandai is really pushing the bar and not only in terms of articulation " Have you seen/Built their DBZ kits? The biceps contract and expands...that's nuts. ;D
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Post by Falconhood on Feb 24, 2011 10:37:08 GMT -5
Have you seen/Built their DBZ kits? The biceps contract and expands...that's nuts. ;D I had a GI Joe type fig like that as a kid, BIG JIM. he could make a muscle. He also had action hands...oh yeah, we used to make fun of that. But he was very articulated.
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Post by chachipower on Feb 24, 2011 10:48:19 GMT -5
same question asked 30 years ago: "well we got fists that shoot! that's cool, and the shoulders spin woo hoo! I hope we can get knees that bend one day!" to answer the question though, swapping hands annoys me. I have a Hot Toys Iron Man and it has small individually super articulated fingers, I would like to see this technology carry over into some SOCs instead of having 32 hands to worry about. The "pointing one", the "open one" the "slightly open one" the peace sign one" the "karate chop one" the "creepy looking one" etc etc. I would like to be able to have the middle finger one for a change if i feel like it without swapping hands and risking snapping a ball joint. I'm really liking the stuff they are doing with the Getter ES Alloy figures. They aren't ultra expensive, yet they have light up eyes and spinning drills, wouldnt mind seeing more of that if done right. working pistons with real hydraulics would be cool too
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Post by mpchi on Feb 25, 2011 0:07:21 GMT -5
I am not greedy. If they manage to keep figures nicely balanced, have sturdy joints and ratchet ankle joints as a standard, I know I'll be happy 30 years from now.
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Post by supergetterv on Feb 25, 2011 4:28:00 GMT -5
I just think sculpt gets better and better over time, just like in anime, the details in the newer animes is just better done. You take something even from the early 90's and compared it to todays level of detail. It is because the drawings are better and so the sculpts are better. Joints system kinda remains the same. Ratchet joints, ball joints, they been around but I see no real new innovations, it is just that the designers now days use them more effectively.
I say, I have around 10 to 15 Revoltechs and I don't know, I just don't really like them all that much. They look great inside the box and you get some really nice pictures on the box, but when it comes to play time, I just don't like the feel of revoltech joint system. I pretty much have to yank out all of the joints, fold them the way I want then replug them back into the figure. The only good thing about this joint system is that it does hold poses well and will hold up better in the long run when compared to the standard ball joints and friction type joints, but I just hate the feel of the revoltech joints. Too restrictive, and doesn't move as freely as I want it to. Last revoltech figure I purchase was the Queensblade Menace figure.
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Post by magengar on Feb 25, 2011 12:53:30 GMT -5
Well, I see a bright future for toys:
Let us know as soon as you're ready to sell or toss your revoltechs, I could use some spare revos and joints for parts, freaks, and tweaks. ;D zozo-Magengar I just think sculpt gets better and better over time, just like in anime, the details in the newer animes is just better done. You take something even from the early 90's and compared it to todays level of detail. It is because the drawings are better and so the sculpts are better. Joints system kinda remains the same. Ratchet joints, ball joints, they been around but I see no real new innovations, it is just that the designers now days use them more effectively. I say, I have around 10 to 15 Revoltechs and I don't know, I just don't really like them all that much. They look great inside the box and you get some really nice pictures on the box, but when it comes to play time, I just don't like the feel of revoltech joint system. I pretty much have to yank out all of the joints, fold them the way I want then replug them back into the figure. The only good thing about this joint system is that it does hold poses well and will hold up better in the long run when compared to the standard ball joints and friction type joints, but I just hate the feel of the revoltech joints. Too restrictive, and doesn't move as freely as I want it to. Last revoltech figure I purchase was the Queensblade Menace figure.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Feb 25, 2011 19:14:09 GMT -5
LED eyes...'nuff said!
}D
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Post by magengar on Feb 26, 2011 13:30:57 GMT -5
Man, That is DIESEL all the way! The manufacturer who made that jumbo Neo Mazinger should have built LEDs into the eyes... they looked appropriate for LEDs and the head is big enough to fit the bulbs and watch-batteries inside, too. It would've made that jumbo more expensive, but it also would've been one helluva cool jumbo. zozo-Magengar
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Post by redkris on Sept 1, 2011 9:17:24 GMT -5
I hope the future of the toys can be like Teddy Bear in Artificial Intelligence (AI) movie. ;D
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Post by mojacko on Sept 1, 2011 11:23:34 GMT -5
i bet toy companies will gonna cut on die cast content instead their gonna give us crappy PVC plastic figs with full of articulation thats gonna break easily.....plus theyre gonna shrink out those SOC sizes......to those Super Robot or Revoltech figs.....talk about cost cutting!!!
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Post by xiombarg on Sept 1, 2011 20:52:27 GMT -5
i bet toy companies will gonna cut on die cast content instead their gonna give us crappy PVC plastic figs with full of articulation thats gonna break easily.....plus theyre gonna shrink out those SOC sizes......to those Super Robot or Revoltech figs.....talk about cost cutting!!! Metal doesn't necessarily make a toy more sturdy when you consider the entire figure interacting with physics. I'm all for metal, but the truth is that a metal toy carries more weighted impact when moved or falling. If you've ever had an all plastic figure take a shelf dive and compare it to that of something partially die cast, then you know what I'm talking about. But back to the topic I would think you are right about seeing less die-cast, in fact I feel like we've already been seeing that.
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Post by tragichero on Sept 1, 2011 23:43:15 GMT -5
Well it seems that people have double standard like SOC must have a lots of metal contents while Transformer toys from Hasbro , Takara & other 3rd party vendors is okay with little to no diecast contents. Although I am not the type who is very particular about diecast contents, but I really do wished that it comes with at least 50% diecast especially those toys that are expensive. It kinda makes me felt that my money are well spend.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 2, 2011 0:04:38 GMT -5
It is because of the name of the toy line, which includes the word Chogokin in it. The Transformers never tried to use metal as a selling point, so no biggie if the figures are all plastic. However, when people purchase a Soul of Chogokin figure, they are expecting at least 30% diecast content in it. And when that 30% metal content is not found, well, we've seen the posts.
Also, a lot of companies like to advertise that their figures have diecast, such as CM's, Aoshima, Fewture, etc... Aoshima and Fewture are pretty good at providing a high diecast content on their releases, but CM's really pushes their luck, as most of their gokin figures are about 90% plastic. I for one like diecast figures as long as they are very articulated. If the best a company can come up with is a diecast quasi-statue with minimal articulation (Aoshima), I rather have a mostly, or all plastic, super articulated figure instead (Bandai SRC).
}D
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Post by mojacko on Sept 2, 2011 6:33:15 GMT -5
[/quote] Metal doesn't necessarily make a toy more sturdy when you consider the entire figure interacting with physics. I'm all for metal, but the truth is that a metal toy carries more weighted impact when moved or falling. If you've ever had an all plastic figure take a shelf dive and compare it to that of something partially die cast, then you know what I'm talking about. [/quote] duh.....i didnt remember mentioning metal makes a toy sturdy?
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