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Post by godaiking on Mar 30, 2011 17:40:23 GMT -5
As some of you may know, the copyright print areas on certain Godaikins differ from the Japanese Popy Chogokin releases (e.g. Tetsujin "Made in Japan" printed on the plastic underneath the foot on the Japanese release while the Godaikin has the sticker "Made in Japan" on it).
Was wondering: Does the Japanese issue of the DX Chogokin Daltanias have the "made in Japan" mark printed on it or a sticker just like the Godaikin release. Hope that makes sense. Thanks.
-Joe
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Mar 30, 2011 21:41:08 GMT -5
I'll just pull out an older photo showing what you said
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Post by berserker211 on Mar 30, 2011 22:45:04 GMT -5
I think the original Japanese Popy Issue has both the sticker and the imprint since there are 3 main pieces that create Daltanious.
I will take some pics since he's already out for my RJ Auction. Be back in a moment.......
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Post by berserker211 on Mar 30, 2011 23:14:14 GMT -5
As some of you may know, the copyright print areas on certain Godaikins differ from the Japanese Popy Chogokin releases (e.g. Tetsujin "Made in Japan" printed on the plastic underneath the foot on the Japanese release while the Godaikin has the sticker "Made in Japan" on it). Was wondering: Does the Japanese issue of the DX Chogokin Daltanias have the "made in Japan" mark printed on it or a sticker just like the Godaikin release. Hope that makes sense. Thanks. -Joe Okay I'm Back... So after climbing on a step stool to reach the top of my desk shelves, picking up a stack of vintage boxes (SDF-1 Takatoku, Popy Goggle V, Daltanias Godaikin & Daltanious Popy) and SDF-1 Taka falling and bouncing off my chest then lands on the bed (Thank Goodness I workout), I was able to open up Both Daltanious' to check for the stamp "Made Ins". So here we go... The main robot Miraiman Atraous has the "MADE IN JAPAN" raised die-cast text on his back. Here is the Popy version on the left and the US Godaikin on the right: The Daltanious Lion/Miraion Velarios has the sticker inside his mane. As you can see the "JAPAN" text on the sticker; the Popy version is on the left and US Godaikin on the right. The MiraiMachine Gunper has raised plastic text. You can see here the "MADE IN JAPAN" on the left of the Popy version and it is missing on the US Godaikin version on the right.
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Post by repairtechjon on Mar 30, 2011 23:58:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the comparison shots Berserker. On the 2 Godaikins I checked, the "Made IN Japan" rectangle sticker is on all three parts, right in the blank spots, where it's molded in on the Popy release. Your Godaikin may have lost those stickers? There's always factory/distributor variances and goofups too, of course.
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Post by godaiking on Mar 31, 2011 14:45:41 GMT -5
Thanks Berserker!
I knew it. So far, out of the Godaikin releases, I've found these toys without the "made in Japan" print on them in my collecting travels:
1. Tetsujin 28 (replaced with "made in Japan" sticker)
2. Goggle V (actually I've seen some variants with the "JAPAN" printed on blue vehicle and some with the "made in Japan" sticker.
3. Daimos (not even a "made in Japan" sticker on it.)
4. Gardian (this one actually has the Popy mark in english as opposed to the usually Katakana symbol everyone is used to seeing along with the "made in Japan" sticker behind the Garbin robot)
5. Daidenjin (the "JAPAN" underneath the right foot is omitted and I believe doesn't even have a sticker)
Let me know if I missed any.
-Joe
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Mar 31, 2011 19:08:54 GMT -5
-Underlying question-- WHY would the the Made In Japan mold mark be omitted on non-Japanese market toys?
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Post by bt1 on Mar 31, 2011 19:13:12 GMT -5
-Underlying question-- WHY would the the Made In Japan mold mark be omitted on non-Japanese toys? Because they were actually made in China, and Popy didn't want to tell anyone - the factory just faked it with the stickers. ;D
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Mar 31, 2011 22:02:21 GMT -5
I was thinking that the export market may be biased against the Japanese. So if it wasn't REQUIRED, like with U.S. Laws, the stickers and all stampings would be omitted. -Just a theory.
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Post by repairtechjon on Mar 31, 2011 22:30:09 GMT -5
Confound you Bill! Damn you to 3rd lower level of heck! hahaaahaha Now my nostalgia is ruined, I tell ya, Ruined!
LOL, For real, thanks for even bringing this up Godaiking. Going through boxes to check stuff out now. What you say as to releases with stickers sounds correct. I'll post some pics too as I get them. GodMarz isn't handy in all 3 release forms, but I'm interested to check that.
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Post by godaiking on Apr 1, 2011 0:28:27 GMT -5
Confound you Bill! Damn you to 3rd lower level of heck! hahaaahaha Now my nostalgia is ruined, I tell ya, Ruined! LOL, For real, thanks for even bringing this up Godaiking. Going through boxes to check stuff out now. What you say as to releases with stickers sounds correct. I'll post some pics too as I get them. GodMarz isn't handy in all 3 release forms, but I'm interested to check that. No problem. I've always wondered about it in my years of collecting. My theory is that alot of what we received from Bandai/Popy in the 80s were leftovers from Japanese release markets and European releases. IIRC, Tetsujin, Daimos, Daidenjin and Gardian (among a few more) were released in Europe with the same "JAPAN" markings wiped off. However, toys such as Voltes and Combattra were never released in Europe (as far as I know) and both Godaikin releases contain "JAPAN" boldly all over the toy. Alot of these toys "may" have been produced in other countries besides Japan and whatever Bandai had leftover from those markets, they used for the Godaikin releases and ended up slapping the "made in Japan" sticker on them. Remember, the whole Japanese transformable robot market at that time was HUGE after transformers and Bandai maybe thought that slapping the "made in Japan" all over the box, instructions and toy would bring in more customers. I dunno...just a guess... After receiving the 1982 released Photo Box Godaikin Goggle V recently (which had the "JAPAN" marking still printed on the plastic of the blue vehicle) and comparing it to the 1984 Gold colored "window" box (with the "made in Japan sticker and "JAPAN" omitted) I used to own, the question has been bugging me. Either we've received leftovers or were they still producing these up til the mid 80s? Who knows... -Joe BTW, I don't recall Godmarz having any variants in their markings, but I'd love to see if them if they did.
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Post by berserker211 on Apr 1, 2011 0:44:12 GMT -5
Hey guys, I will check some of my other Godaikins vs. Popy in the next few days. I am in the middle of reconstructing my closets and storage areas since my closet collapsed (yes with vintage and neo bots in there ) and I have some stuff out for the auction. I will post some pics soon... ~B
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Apr 1, 2011 22:26:16 GMT -5
Godaiking.
I KNOW as a fact that the Goggle V was indeed produced for quite a few years. GoLion, Combattler, and Godmarz were mostly leftover stock.
So I expect that the first Goggle V toys were Japanese overstock. Later Bandai HAD to remold the toys because they made them from about 82 all the way to about '86.
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Apr 2, 2011 23:04:11 GMT -5
Update: The Godaikin Albegas jets have the "Made in Japan" sticker on them....
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Post by berserker211 on Apr 3, 2011 0:20:41 GMT -5
Okay so I just checked God Marz and took some pictures. Hmmm... This is kinda weird because both versions have the raised made in "JAPAN" text. I think that Bandai most likely didn't want to Re-Invest or create new molds for the US market. So here are the 6 Bots that create God Marz: Here's the Large Torso Bot Sphinx, the Popy is on the left, but the made in "JAPAN" stamps are the same. The Black Bot Shin, right leg, the Popy is on the left: The Green Bot Titan, left arm, the Popy is on the left: The Blue and Yellow Bot Ra, left leg, the Popy is on the left: The White Bot Uranus, right arm, the US Godaikin is on the bottom: The inner bot Gaia, the Popy Japanese version is on the top: So by the raised made in "JAPAN" stamps I "could" have both Popy Japanese versions, but one is packaged in a US Godaikin box.
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Apr 3, 2011 21:41:02 GMT -5
That isn't surprising to me. It supports the idea the Godmarz is an expensive toy to make and Bandai just used the same Japanese product run.
The new old stock would have been used/used up with Godaikin first/silver box releases (they came on market in 82 and Godmarz was 1981). Then the Godmarz was removed from the Godaikin line once old stock was used up.
Ed
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Post by repairtechjon on Apr 3, 2011 23:09:17 GMT -5
Heh! Now we have to get someone to confirm the GodMarz markings from the later Silver window box version?? It never ends!! AAaaaahhhh.....!
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