zigma
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Post by zigma on Nov 18, 2011 6:40:02 GMT -5
Anyone know if there is any difference between SOC Japan and Hong Kong version? How to differentiate it from box?
I'm wondering if there is any difference between japan and hong kong version for GX-60 God sigma
Thanks Zigma
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Post by metalfreak on Nov 18, 2011 11:12:38 GMT -5
i believe there is a sticker behindthe box with wordings bandai asia, otherwise no difference except pricing
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Post by B- on Nov 18, 2011 11:47:34 GMT -5
Some say the Hong Kong ones have less quality control,not God Sigma alone but all SOCs,Im not sure how factual that is though.Could be just that Chinese stuff is always less quality in this hobby so people think it.
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Post by Chen on Nov 18, 2011 12:15:36 GMT -5
No difference in quality since they ALL come off the same production line. Bandai reps have already confirmed this years ago plus collectors have also confirmed there's no difference. The sticker is just for licensing when it arrives in Japan other then that there all the same.
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Post by dooquie on Nov 18, 2011 12:15:54 GMT -5
This myth has been debunked time and time again. There is no difference with the exception of the sticker.
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Post by mecha-mania on Nov 19, 2011 2:54:22 GMT -5
A much debated topic indeed. They are exactly the same, and like some said, the only thing differentiating the 2 is the asia bandai sticker at the back, while the one without the sticker is meant for the japanese domestic market. Another point worth noting is, if you come from a country like mine where the market actually charges a premium for japanese version, beware! the sticker can be removed and pass off as the japanese version. So its safer to request for the asian version instead.
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Post by silverdonz on Nov 19, 2011 3:05:17 GMT -5
same quality, even japan import some of its own chogokin product from china, lol
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Post by henshin75 on Nov 19, 2011 18:28:06 GMT -5
aside of the stickers there's no difference in quality of both versions. Buy a Hongkong version, peel off the sticker...voila, congrats, you've just got a Japan version!
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Post by gokinrob on Nov 19, 2011 22:07:51 GMT -5
Why do people get caught up on this?
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Post by Guyver on Nov 20, 2011 3:00:32 GMT -5
Why do people get caught up on this? Those who want to increase profit but without really good argumentation ... and the myth that Made in Hong Kong / China are in general "cheap" stuff?
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zigma
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Post by zigma on Nov 20, 2011 4:53:30 GMT -5
> Why do people get caught up on this?
Some country charge more for Japanese version. If there is no difference, I don't see any reason to pay more for it.
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Post by Guyver on Nov 20, 2011 5:21:02 GMT -5
> Why do people get caught up on this? Some country charge more for Japanese version. If there is no difference, I don't see any reason to pay more for it. If Japan version really exist, why would only some countries charge extra and other have same price for HK as Japanse version? Nothing in this world comes free. If Bandai has put extra QC on Japanese version, you bet they would have cost more!
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Post by henshin75 on Nov 20, 2011 9:24:59 GMT -5
In my humble opinion there's no difference in QC issue on both versions. My SOC GX-31 is japanese version and It cost me more than the HK version at that time. and what did I get as a bonus? ... 2 dots of paintchips ... My GX-60 is HK version and my friend's Japan version, outside of those sticker things I found there's no difference at all on both versions.... well, unless my eyes fooled me
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Post by chachipower on Nov 21, 2011 22:27:33 GMT -5
The markup on Japanese versions probably has to do with the shipping involved from china to japan. If they are made in china and bought from a chinese seller, then it would make sense for them to be cheaper. If a japanese seller has to buy from a distributor who brings them in from China, then I'm sure the shipping costs would be tacked on. Just a guess as I have never run into any quality differences on mine.
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Post by Chen on Nov 21, 2011 23:14:20 GMT -5
I think it would depend on where in China SOC's are made and where they are shipped from and the destination. China is a big country and the distance between say Shanghai to Nagasaki is closer than Nagasaki to Hong Kong. It could also be that when SOC's arrive in Japan Bandai may have to pay some sort of licensing fee to receive the license sticker to legally sell it in Japan, but honestly I'm just guessing and I think the main reason for the higher price is the perceived "higher" quality of the Japanese version.
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Post by mecha-mania on Nov 22, 2011 2:22:44 GMT -5
In the past, toy sellers in my country used to say that japanese versions are of higher quality and had superior QC, i wont argue about that because they were indeed made in japan, but now, everything comes out of china, and that, does not make one version better than the other, so its really quite foolish to pay a premium because of some misperception, really want regular priced "japanese version"? Just buy straight from a japanese online shop like amiami.
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Post by gt3ian on Nov 22, 2011 15:28:13 GMT -5
That's what I heard before ..............
Japan version has better QC than other version, cuz the worker will keep the best quality product and set that lots as Japan version and shipped back to their "mother" company in order to save their jobs. Rest of the product will assign to other Asian distributor.
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Post by hetabattousai on Nov 22, 2011 22:13:38 GMT -5
Dont get caught in the misconceptions. Japan made products are usually better quality then the rest of the world, besides maybe germany. That isn't because the japanese are better at making "stuff", but rather because they have one of the better quality control system in place.
Japan has been practicing quality control since after WW2, when the rest of the world were still in the mass production mode. However since the late 1980s, the rest of the world has been catching up with quality control.
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Post by optimus on Nov 23, 2011 1:01:31 GMT -5
from the explanation of my toy supplier. hk versions are the first release soc from bandai in hongkong area only... and i think before gx50, there were crystals or glass paperweights included. and hk versions are a bit pricey because of that. but later on soc hk didnt include any of the said crystals anymore. but still pricey. well maybe because they want to maintain the srp of soc products.
and my seller always waits for the asian version which comes from other countries with cheaper value (for whatever reason, he cant explain) those asian version comes from nearby countries with like philippines, indonesia,thailand.
as for the japan version, why its pricier than the rest well may be because shipping to japan is already expensive, or the dealer who will buy japan version will have to pay extra shipping fee for it. thats why its more expensive than hk version.
i've tried hk and japan version but they are basically the same. its all made in china ;D
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Post by dooquie on Nov 23, 2011 13:06:02 GMT -5
This does not matter as no SOC is made in Japan. They are all made in China. Dont get caught in the misconceptions. Japan made products are usually better quality then the rest of the world, besides maybe germany. That isn't because the japanese are better at making "stuff", but rather because they have one of the better quality control system in place. Japan has been practicing quality control since after WW2, when the rest of the world were still in the mass production mode. However since the late 1980s, the rest of the world has been catching up with quality control.
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