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Post by liveevil on Dec 29, 2011 2:48:43 GMT -5
Hello, fellow collectors. Does the condition of the box really matter to you when you are buying a toy if you are going to play with it anyway?
What I mean is that the purchase is not for storing away the toy and not opening it and preserving the package in mint condition in the hopes of re-selling it. You actually want to play with it.
You see, I want to buy this Soul of Chogokin #46 Dygenguar and Aussenseiter. The shop says it's brand new but the box has some folds and creases. The vendor says that the box has been opened before and previous customers inspected the contents. So, i have some apprehensions. There is a good chance that the toy is brand new and that the vendor was honest about the reason for the box's condition but the box's look bugs me. I would grade the box as a "b."
And the price of the toy doesn't really help. It's rare to find an SOC Chogokin Dygenguar in our country nowadays and if there would be a restock in other stores, it's likely that the restock would be more expensive than the one I have been talking about.
Should I go ahead and buy it? Or look elsewhere for one that has a better looking box?
Thank you for your opinions.
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Post by lurkerx on Dec 29, 2011 6:12:13 GMT -5
Different strokes for different people...
Personally, I'm not "big" on boxes or box art so I really couldn't care less about its condition if I could get a fair discount on an item with a dented box I'd take it in a heartbeat. In fact if I could get a discount getting something "loose" (without its box) but essentially mint I'd go for it.
The only reason I keep the boxes is if I decide to sell the toy one day, the box gives potential buyers the preception that the toy has been well cared for and is essentially "mint".
But that's just me.....others are crazy about boxes from moderate to AFA xtreme you have to decide which group you belong to.....
The big factor though is the discount, if no discount is being offered I'd probably just walk and find it elsewhere, because at the end of the day should you decide to sell your item whether you like it or not you are going to come across people who are overly concern about the box's condition....
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Post by liveevil on Dec 29, 2011 8:58:36 GMT -5
Well, there is no discount. But all the other shops have sold their stock. And I'm afraid that the price might go up in the future. Thank you for response, LurkerX.
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Post by KingboyD on Dec 29, 2011 9:37:18 GMT -5
Push them for a discount. Can't hurt to ask, especially since its been opened. But for me personally, unless I am spending top dollar on a super rare toy, I don't care so much about box condition for a mass produced toy.
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Post by metalfreak on Dec 29, 2011 11:41:43 GMT -5
i will walk away if no discount on it...at least talk yr way into in as the box is not in a gd condition. wait awhile n mayb a better deal might pop-up
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Post by Philo Beddoe on Dec 29, 2011 12:41:20 GMT -5
The box condition is very important to me. If I want my toy to be in great shape then the box should be as well. I also have room constraints where i keep my stuff so while I would like to display alot of my stuff it's hard to display them and also worry about where I'm going to keep the boxes, so I display the boxes. Maintaining value may not be a concern for you but a nice box is a must to retain value at the higher end of the spectrum.
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Post by quinjester on Dec 29, 2011 12:56:35 GMT -5
I don't care about box conditions, as long as the inside is intact. The boxes job is to deliver a toy to me protected and in good condition and as long as it does that, I'm not picky.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Dec 29, 2011 14:08:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree. Unless you are planning to resell the toy and try to make top dollar on it, the box condition is not that important. To me original boxes are ideal to keep all the accessories organized in one place, so their cosmetic condition is irrelevant.
}D
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Post by magengar on Dec 29, 2011 15:39:30 GMT -5
Box condition matters to me if the artwork amuzes me enough to display the box like a poster. So, I try to keep the box from getting scratched or wrinkled in the artwork areas. If I were to re-sell an item later on the value of it will be less anyway, so therefore even having the box in the most pristine tabernacle condition will Not guarantee me past the gates of Heaven. ;D
zozo-mag
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Post by Cyrano on Dec 29, 2011 19:19:57 GMT -5
I don't usually even save the boxes because of space issues, so some scuffs or creases are a non issue for me. However, if you're worried about the toy's condition that's a different matter. If another customer opened it before and returned it, will you be able to do the same if there's anything missing or damaged? If so and it's a price you're willing to pay, then I wouldn't be worried.
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Post by mojacko on Dec 29, 2011 21:19:16 GMT -5
Doesnt really matter if box is a bit crumpled as long as the item is intact and doesn't have any issue box takes too much space in my small apartment.
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Post by liveevil on Dec 30, 2011 0:27:25 GMT -5
You guys have been really helpful. Thank you so much. I don't have any intention of selling the toy in the future. I would like to give it to my future offspring.
You know what's funny? The SOC Dygenguar was the reason that I started my collection. A few years ago, I saw the toy in a shop but I didn't buy it since I thought it was too expensive. I reasoned that I was better off buying the cheaper ones. So I started off with a Revoltech Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann. And then, I got a Revoltech Mazinkaiser, then a Shin Getter 1, and then I started having this "It might be nice to have the others." kind of mentality and my collection grew with other Revoltech and Super Robot Chogokins. I have around 40+ mechas right now. And the cost of my current collection is now way bigger than the original cost of the SOC Dygenguar.
And here I am right now, problematizing whether I should get the toy that actually started my craze. hahaha
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Post by Philo Beddoe on Dec 30, 2011 1:10:13 GMT -5
Like most of you I have no intention of selling any of my stuff (and I have quite a bit) but sometimes things happen and you either need to sell it or someone offers you an amount that is hard to resist...for example..... 2 weeks ago someone offered me $1,000 for my Macross V2 VF-1J Max and Miria and V2 Elintseeker. Did I take the offer? I did, and the only reason he took them from me is that he couldn't believe how perfect the boxes were. Considering I payed $110/each for the Max/Miria and $130 for the Elintseeker about 2 years ago I made off rather well. That being said I get it...different strokes for different folks. I'm one of those guys that will pay twice the price for an Atari 2600 with the box and manual instead of buying it without one. It's simply the way I like my collection.
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Post by shinobi03 on Dec 30, 2011 16:27:09 GMT -5
I don't care that much of the boxes unless I can store my figures in it when needed. I don't go all the way to get a refund if there was a dent or a scratch on it. Plus I'm not the type that sells his stuff. If I wanted to buy a figure and not open the package at all, then I better print a picture of the box and hang it on the wall. If I'm not gonna enjoy the figure itself on my desk, then what's the difference?
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Post by rayar on Dec 30, 2011 20:20:05 GMT -5
Why dont you post the pic so we can see what has you so concerned? Also, can't you request pics of the contents? I can tell you that it is a big box with the same thickness as the box of the smallest S.O.C. so it will tend to suffer more damage in shipping and moving.
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Post by ancer on Dec 30, 2011 20:30:24 GMT -5
Seems to me if you can verify that the contents are in tact and nothings has broken then the box should not be a concern. Best of luck.
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Post by liveevil on Dec 30, 2011 23:58:39 GMT -5
Why dont you post the pic so we can see what has you so concerned? Also, can't you request pics of the contents? I can tell you that it is a big box with the same thickness as the box of the smallest S.O.C. so it will tend to suffer more damage in shipping and moving. Thank you rayar, ok, next time I go to the store, I'll try to take a picture of the box. Your statement on the thickness and size of the box was also very insightful, I haven't thought of that. Though, there was a time when the owner of one of the biggest toy stores here in our country remarked that it is very hard to get a SOC Dygenguar with a box in good condition.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Dec 31, 2011 1:44:13 GMT -5
Yeah, all SOC boxes are very thin cardboard. The only thing that keeps them together is the styrofoam or plastic inserts/trays inside. You do need to make sure everything is inside. There are some small parts that can be lost very easily. }D
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Post by boricua on Dec 31, 2011 2:22:21 GMT -5
I only have like five with boxes, the others I buy loose so no box to begin with!
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Post by snowdog on Dec 31, 2011 3:41:55 GMT -5
Since you fancy that SOC GX-46 so much, I'd try and go for a top condition box. Otherwise you might end up with a similar problem than the one you had when you passed on it the first time: a few months down the road, you might think it would have been better to get one in a pristine box.
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