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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Nov 17, 2014 12:11:15 GMT -5
I do hate when the manufacturer leaves batteries inside these collectible toys. Depending on warehouse's temperature and humidity conditions these batteries might go bad sooner. It's even worse with high-end toys. At least your run of the mill electronic toys have some kind of a "try me" thing that needs the batteries, but there's no reason to include them in a blindboxed collectible. If you're so poor you can't afford to buy batteries, you probably shouldn't be buying gokins. I second that. Talking about LED-related gimmicks in a collectible, either don't give us the batteries or, if you insist, just put them in a separate plastic bag, not already inside the toy. Also, I'm in favor of, say, LED light-up eyes only if it doesn't hinder the head articulation. This is mostly a concern with small figures, SoC sized. The circuitry and the electronics inside the head occupy all of the space inside it, so most of the times that headis fixed in place, and can't be moved, or moved much. They usually provide you with a second head, better articulated and without the gimmick, and that obviously ramps up the cost a bit. With bigger figures that's not really a problem. ~30 cm toys are big enough that the production team manages to give us a well articulated head with al of that LED goodness squeezed in, no downsides whatsoever. I'd play with the light-up feature just for a few days though, enjoying the quirkyness/epicness of the figure, before removing the batteries and just leave it exposed without the risk of an acid leak-out. Nobody wants that.
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Post by S_Gokin on Nov 17, 2014 12:38:30 GMT -5
Depends on the figure. Most of my customized SRCs have always been in action poses. Their joints have remained exactly like my other non-customized SRCs which are left in a neutral standing pose. When I noticed the ankle joints were a little looser in the custom, I checked the non-custom counterpart and the joint was the same (just as loose). Same applies to the shoulders, waist and hips. I can see the joints getting worn out if the figure is played with constantly, but that will happen to anything that can't regenerate - wear and tear. }D Thats weird bro, because my first SRCs Mazinger z and Great Mazinger joints got more stiff with time (like new stiff) and i just display them standing but when i attached the rocket punch effect they cant hold it 100% perfect maybe like 70 - 80 % with a couple tries however i didn't like the first SRCs joints i know its great for articulation but its annoying to make them just standing the always look like they are leaning on the side but new ones are much better
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Post by B- on Nov 17, 2014 20:20:59 GMT -5
Depends on the figure. Most of my customized SRCs have always been in action poses. Their joints have remained exactly like my other non-customized SRCs which are left in a neutral standing pose. When I noticed the ankle joints were a little looser in the custom, I checked the non-custom counterpart and the joint was the same (just as loose). Same applies to the shoulders, waist and hips. I can see the joints getting worn out if the figure is played with constantly, but that will happen to anything that can't regenerate - wear and tear. }D Thats weird bro, because my first SRCs Mazinger z and Great Mazinger joints got more stiff with time (like new stiff) and i just display them standing but when i attached the rocket punch effect they cant hold it 100% perfect maybe like 70 - 80 % with a couple tries however i didn't like the first SRCs joints i know its great for articulation but its annoying to make them just standing the always look like they are leaning on the side but new ones are much better TMZ same here SRC joints on Mazinger and Great Mazinger especially get loose with no play,one right out of the package!
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Post by Robot Lover/Fighter on Nov 17, 2014 22:06:28 GMT -5
I personally like better articulation over gimmicks (lighting eyes or shooting hands)any day....
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Post by magengar on Nov 18, 2014 5:12:37 GMT -5
Depends on the figure. Most of my customized SRCs have always been in action poses. Their joints have remained exactly like my other non-customized SRCs which are left in a neutral standing pose. When I noticed the ankle joints were a little looser in the custom, I checked the non-custom counterpart and the joint was the same (just as loose). Same applies to the shoulders, waist and hips. I can see the joints getting worn out if the figure is played with constantly, but that will happen to anything that can't regenerate - wear and tear. }D .............. its annoying to make them just standing they always look like they are leaning on the side................ zozo-mag
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Post by S_Gokin on Nov 18, 2014 10:48:14 GMT -5
.............. its annoying to make them just standing they always look like they are leaning on the side................ zozo-mag Exactly
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Post by mecha-mania on Nov 19, 2014 11:56:45 GMT -5
i prefer gimmicks to be left to vintages. firing fists/projectiles, light-up eyes, sound effects etc. are a big no-no for me in modern gokins. absolutely hate it when manufacturers place batteries in a robot, and if you forget about them after a while, everything starts melting and corrode the internals.
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Post by tetsuryu on Nov 19, 2014 14:24:08 GMT -5
I don't own any SRCs, but I've had this problem with Revoltechs more often than not and it drives me nuts.
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Post by B- on Nov 19, 2014 14:26:27 GMT -5
Yeah batteries suck.AND in the case of eyes you get open clear windows.They should have an option to at least stick a colored yellow paper behind teh blank eyes to look alive if you dont want the light option,or just for when hes off!
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Post by S_Gokin on Nov 19, 2014 16:30:07 GMT -5
I don't own any SRCs, but I've had this problem with Revoltechs more often than not and it drives me nuts. i own 3 Revoltechs 103 Jehuty , 030 Optimus Prime and 038 Bumblebee all are much much MUCH worse than any SRCs figure i own specially Bumblebee i can even make him stand right it either start slowly falling or standing like the picture in Magengar post the figures over all feel like a 16bit figures, really nice details but it doesnt pop out good and the figures are wobbly i will never buy any revoltech ever again
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Post by B- on Nov 23, 2014 3:15:41 GMT -5
I don't own any SRCs, but I've had this problem with Revoltechs more often than not and it drives me nuts. i own 3 Revoltechs 103 Jehuty , 030 Optimus Prime and 038 Bumblebee all are much much MUCH worse than any SRCs figure i own specially Bumblebee i can even make him stand right it either start slowly falling or standing like the picture in Magengar post the figures over all feel like a 16bit figures, really nice details but it doesnt pop out good and the figures are wobbly i will never buy any revoltech ever again Revoltechs are poor mans toys,they might as well come out of a gumball machine.JUNK.Floppy pretzel mess.The name says it all REVOLTING-tech ..Only good thing is they make 3 getters that no one else makes,Arc,Go and Getter 3 from New getter.I own 2 of those and a Mazinkaiser,and hate them all,Mazinkaiser is OK. Ive found the joints dont suck as much as the "dynamic"sculpts which cant stand straight unless its in some silly overexaggerated action pose. The Joints are all we have for customizing I guess,even if they cant align straight the way they are split down the middle makes one end crooked when you look at the joints alone.Cant even get their claim to fame right. Take a look at white joint below see how the ends arent aligned straight,CRAP.Lets not turn this thread intoa REVO one PLEASe just replying ok?
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Post by mtmte586 on Nov 23, 2014 13:24:32 GMT -5
No batteries for me, because they take up a lot of space. But I have a contrary opinion on shooting gimmicks. I wish firing mechanisms would be included. I just wish they used strong springs instead of weak ones; like the ones where the missile would fly across the entire room. Springs are rated for millions of cycles as long as they don't get compressed more than 80% of the free length. Also, I don't see why the bullets cannot be made with a 2 piece design: rotating head on a rigid body. I think this would have been s better attach solution for DX Mazinger.
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Post by S_Gokin on Nov 23, 2014 13:38:03 GMT -5
i own 3 Revoltechs 103 Jehuty , 030 Optimus Prime and 038 Bumblebee all are much much MUCH worse than any SRCs figure i own specially Bumblebee i can even make him stand right it either start slowly falling or standing like the picture in Magengar post the figures over all feel like a 16bit figures, really nice details but it doesnt pop out good and the figures are wobbly i will never buy any revoltech ever again Revoltechs are poor mans toys,they might as well come out of a gumball machine.JUNK.Floppy pretzel mess.The name says it all REVOLTING-tech ..Only good thing is they make 3 getters that no one else makes,Arc,Go and Getter 3 from New getter.I own 2 of those and a Mazinkaiser,and hate them all,Mazinkaiser is OK. Ive found the joints dont suck as much as the "dynamic"sculpts which cant stand straight unless its in some silly overexaggerated action pose. The Joints are all we have for customizing I guess,even if they cant align straight the way they are split down the middle makes one end crooked when you look at the joints alone.Cant even get their claim to fame right. Take a look at white joint below see how the ends arent aligned straight,CRAP.Lets not turn this thread intoa REVO one PLEASe just replying ok? we cant see the picture bro could you re upload it
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Post by B- on Nov 23, 2014 15:37:38 GMT -5
Its there,its your computer. all it is is a pic of a revoltech joint.
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Post by tetsuryu on Nov 24, 2014 7:46:53 GMT -5
Revoltechs are poor mans toys,they might as well come out of a gumball machine.JUNK.Floppy pretzel mess.The name says it all REVOLTING-tech ..Only good thing is they make 3 getters that no one else makes,Arc,Go and Getter 3 from New getter.I own 2 of those and a Mazinkaiser,and hate them all,Mazinkaiser is OK. I find their human figures to be much better than their robot figures. Then again, most of the robots you listed are the really, really early offerings, which suffered from a lot of issues like gummy paintjob and leaking plasticizer. Their tokusatsu Giant Robo for example is rock solid. No complaints about that one.
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Post by B- on Nov 24, 2014 10:49:12 GMT -5
Revoltechs are poor mans toys,they might as well come out of a gumball machine.JUNK.Floppy pretzel mess.The name says it all REVOLTING-tech ..Only good thing is they make 3 getters that no one else makes,Arc,Go and Getter 3 from New getter.I own 2 of those and a Mazinkaiser,and hate them all,Mazinkaiser is OK. I find their human figures to be much better than their robot figures. Then again, most of the robots you listed are the really, really early offerings, which suffered from a lot of issues like gummy paintjob and leaking plasticizer. Their tokusatsu Giant Robo for example is rock solid. No complaints about that one. Yes but the issues I find are the sculpts themselves...You can stand them in a neutral position,they look strange all the time,you have to have them in an exaggerated action pose,maybe that is teh point of these figures,but I dont like that.
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Post by magengar on Nov 24, 2014 22:13:20 GMT -5
You folks wanna know something? Most of these robots have firing gimmicks of some sort, be it fists or missiles or discs or knives or darts or spitballs or whatever... ...So then, why can't these Japanese toy companies borrow some Shooting ideas from the famous NERF toy line whose toys are either spring-action or air-action launchers! Think about it... I'd love to own an air-pump powered Mazinger-Z figure that shot his fists like they were designed by Nerf... ...I'd pump that air trigger all day shooting his fists across the room! zozo-mag
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Post by tetsuryu on Nov 25, 2014 2:58:43 GMT -5
I'd love to own an air-pump powered Mazinger-Z figure that shot his fists like they were designed by Nerf... ...I'd pump that air trigger all day shooting his fists across the room! zozo-mag You mean like...the Takara Goldymarg? There's a reason why the Goldion Hammer looks like a giant squeaky hammer. The Generation 2 "Hero" Optimus Prime and Megatron also have the air-based firing mechanisms. Yes but the issues I find are the sculpts themselves...You can stand them in a neutral position,they look strange all the time,you have to have them in an exaggerated action pose,maybe that is teh point of these figures,but I dont like that. This is true...usually. The Fist of the North Star figures look rather awkward in a neutral pose, but the Ashura ver. Kenshiro does not, thanks to the different hip joints - likewise, Woody, Buzz and that toku GR also look fairly good in a neutral pose. Also, an easy way to get around the leaning issue is pull the joints out of their sockets slightly on the other leg to make it longer.
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Post by B- on Nov 25, 2014 3:05:42 GMT -5
I'd love to own an air-pump powered Mazinger-Z figure that shot his fists like they were designed by Nerf... ...I'd pump that air trigger all day shooting his fists across the room! zozo-mag You mean like...the Takara Goldymarg? There's a reason why the Goldion Hammer looks like a giant squeaky hammer. The Generation 2 "Hero" Optimus Prime and Megatron also have the air-based firing mechanisms. Yes but the issues I find are the sculpts themselves...You can stand them in a neutral position,they look strange all the time,you have to have them in an exaggerated action pose,maybe that is teh point of these figures,but I dont like that. This is true...usually. The Fist of the North Star figures look rather awkward in a neutral pose, but the Ashura ver. Kenshiro does not, thanks to the different hip joints - likewise, Woody, Buzz and that toku GR also look fairly good in a neutral pose. Also, an easy way to get around the leaning issue is pull the joints out of their sockets slightly on the other leg to make it longer. I cant comment on humans,only robots,but I expect they all look like Yoga masters in pretzel poses.
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Post by mazfan on Nov 26, 2014 23:10:05 GMT -5
Though I find the SOC gimmicks cool, I think I prefer to not have them. My GX-01X, one of my first SOC-related items, stopped working after a year. MY SPEC XS-02 battery corroded and so, no more awesome sound effects. Hence, I've gotten rid of all batteries on my SOCs. The only one of I have batteries left inside is my PX-02--I don't know how to get it out.
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