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Post by mecha-mania on Apr 1, 2015 10:21:47 GMT -5
If materials such as rubbery parts on a robot that tend to fuse with surrounding objects after several years, dosent that mean even wrapping it with plastic will not help? I mean, is there really a way of stopping it from melting/degrading? I have a vintage gatchaman G2 condor on display in my cabinet and its rubber wheel have already started to fuse with the glass shelf.
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Post by B- on Apr 1, 2015 10:25:09 GMT -5
OK JUST had a look at teh new ankoku Daishogun..the WORST part is teh back of his cape,the maroon paint is not fully cured and is somewhat sticky..
ALSO the grey BELT is sticky,I easily fixed belt by using a wax spray and wiping with my finger took away the stick,
as for the cape,I guess best way is a spray fixitive like artists use on paintings or a gloss spraypaint.
FOR NOW I just sprayed the detail carnauba turtle wax over teh cape,blew it with a hair dryer,wiped off excess with a lint free rag,repeated,now I have 3 coats of wax over the sticky paint ,it reduced the stickiness and helped alot..actually not using the cape is the best option,did he wear one in the later animes Mazinkaiser etc?
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Apr 1, 2015 10:33:29 GMT -5
If materials such as rubbery parts on a robot that tend to fuse with surrounding objects after several years, dosent that mean even wrapping it with plastic will not help? I mean, is there really a way of stopping it from melting/degrading? I have a vintage gatchaman G2 condor on display in my cabinet and its rubber wheel have already started to fuse with the glass shelf. Try cutting a piece of wax paper the same shape as the bottom perimeter of the car. Place the tires on the glossy side and it should be fine. Alternatively you could cut a very tiny piece of wood, rubber or plastic and put it under the chassis so the car just sits on it and the tires hang just above the actual ground. I'm considering displaying my unused DX gattiger and will probably use one of these two methods. Another tip for you guys who have DX gardian. I took daigo and Clint out of the styro and wrapped them in tiny pieces of wax paper instead of the usual clear plastic wrap. I put them down in the bottom center accessory tray after I wrapped them. So far so good.
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Post by mecha-mania on Apr 1, 2015 10:38:12 GMT -5
If materials such as rubbery parts on a robot that tend to fuse with surrounding objects after several years, dosent that mean even wrapping it with plastic will not help? I mean, is there really a way of stopping it from melting/degrading? I have a vintage gatchaman G2 condor on display in my cabinet and its rubber wheel have already started to fuse with the glass shelf. Try cutting a piece of wax paper the same shape as the bottom perimeter of the car. Place the tires on the glossy side and it should be fine. Alternatively you could cut a very tiny piece of wood, rubber or plastic and put it under the chassis so the car just sits on it and the tires hang just above the actual ground. I'm considering displaying my unused DX gat tiger and will probably use one of these two methods. Another tip for you guys who have DX gardian. I took daigo and Clint out of the styro and wrapped them in tiny pieces of wax paper instead of the usual clear plastic wrap. I put them down in the bottom center accessory tray after I wrapped them. So far so good. Thanks! Will give your suggestion a go!
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Post by MazinKaiserSKL666 on Apr 1, 2015 13:36:26 GMT -5
BEWARE of acrylic display cases and rubber or pvc also. I had the SOP Akira bike on display in my Detolf but on top of a half of a clam shell acrylic case to use as a riser of sorts and the tires had burned into the acrylic. Fortunately it didn't affect the tires at all. But the acryllic was burned away around the tires. Freaky as hell. I then looked to see if they're were any other issues and the feet of a vinyl Godzilla figure I had on it also melted into it as well. Unfortunately it ruined the figure also as his feet were melted as if he had been standing on a hot frying pan and were permanently soft and gooey. Fortunately it was the more recent and unvaluable figures from GMK. I did like him though but its easily replaceable. Unlike my Godzilla Forever Disco Godzilla. Whew!!!
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Post by B- on Apr 1, 2015 15:06:07 GMT -5
wow all this stuff is so damn scary!!!
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Post by guanaco on Apr 1, 2015 20:07:31 GMT -5
just took the scarf of my black getter. it was a mess under it. the golden peg paint was all peeled off.
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Post by ancer on Apr 3, 2015 9:56:43 GMT -5
Does Styrofoam "eat" the paint on SOC/SRC figures? I have an Aoshima Getter and the hands had some Styrofoam sticking to them. It was easy to remove and no damage.
Is Wax paper safe to use as a buffer between the figure and Styrofoam?
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Post by B- on Apr 3, 2015 17:24:46 GMT -5
Does Styrofoam "eat" the paint on SOC/SRC figures? I have an Aoshima Getter and the hands had some Styrofoam sticking to them. It was easy to remove and no damage. Is Wax paper safe to use as a buffer between the figure and Styrofoam? Im speaking of between cape and figure,out of box,ON display.Not sure what others may mean.
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Post by Gold on Apr 3, 2015 22:08:22 GMT -5
did he wear one in the later animes Mazinkaiser etc? He never takes the cape off IIRC. If materials such as rubbery parts on a robot that tend to fuse with surrounding objects after several years, dosent that mean even wrapping it with plastic will not help? I mean, is there really a way of stopping it from melting/degrading? I have a vintage gatchaman G2 condor on display in my cabinet and its rubber wheel have already started to fuse with the glass shelf. Try cutting a piece of wax paper the same shape as the bottom perimeter of the car. Place the tires on the glossy side and it should be fine. Alternatively you could cut a very tiny piece of wood, rubber or plastic and put it under the chassis so the car just sits on it and the tires hang just above the actual ground. Another tip for you guys who have DX gardian. I took daigo and Clint out of the styro and wrapped them in tiny pieces of wax paper instead of the usual clear plastic wrap. I put them down in the bottom center accessory tray after I wrapped them. So far so good. Good tips, thanks! I never thought about using "blocks" to elevate cars to prevent rubber tire contact with smooth surfaces. Does Styrofoam "eat" the paint on SOC/SRC figures? I have an Aoshima Getter and the hands had some Styrofoam sticking to them. It was easy to remove and no damage. Is Wax paper safe to use as a buffer between the figure and Styrofoam? Yeah, the same thing happened to my Aoshima Mazinkasier too, the hands just melted into the Styrofoam. Personally I think it's due to the thinner or the paint a company uses on their stuff and how it's reacting to the plastic it's painted on that's causing the "styro melting". I haven't encountered this on Bandai styros yet though (Combattler and Grendizer come to mind). For my other Aoshimas what I did was I went to a local comic book store and bought some "acid free" comics bags, cut them up and used that as the "liner sheet" between the plastic accessory and the stryo tray, as I'm not entirely sure if wax paper is safe. I am fairly sure though that wax paper will disintegrate and leave dusty "snow" or flaking all over the place over a few years (tried this with photos a while back and this is what happened to the wax paper. Photos were relatively ok though, but I can't say how wax paper will react with paint and pvc) Gold
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Post by ancer on Apr 4, 2015 8:04:45 GMT -5
Does Styrofoam "eat" the paint on SOC/SRC figures? I have an Aoshima Getter and the hands had some Styrofoam sticking to them. It was easy to remove and no damage. Is Wax paper safe to use as a buffer between the figure and Styrofoam? Yeah, the same thing happened to my Aoshima Mazinkasier too, the hands just melted into the Styrofoam. Personally I think it's due to the thinner or the paint a company uses on their stuff and how it's reacting to the plastic it's painted on that's causing the "styro melting". I haven't encountered this on Bandai styros yet though (Combattler and Grendizer come to mind). For my other Aoshimas what I did was I went to a local comic book store and bought some "acid free" comics bags, cut them up and used that as the "liner sheet" between the plastic accessory and the stryo tray, as I'm not entirely sure if wax paper is safe. I am fairly sure though that wax paper will disintegrate and leave dusty "snow" or flaking all over the place over a few years (tried this with photos a while back and this is what happened to the wax paper. Photos were relatively ok though, but I can't say how wax paper will react with paint and pvc) Gold [/quote] I will try the acid free comic bags. Thanks
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Post by B- on Apr 4, 2015 13:23:09 GMT -5
STyro and paint have oils/chemicals that mix together,unlike acrylic and enamel who dont mix. When these properties mix under heat they cause melt/mix which your seeing in teh boxes.Keeping toys in boxes that have Styrofoam is not a good idea
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on Apr 4, 2015 22:05:13 GMT -5
For my other Aoshimas what I did was I went to a local comic book store and bought some "acid free" comics bags, cut them up and used that as the "liner sheet" between the plastic accessory and the stryo tray, as I'm not entirely sure if wax paper is safe. I am fairly sure though that wax paper will disintegrate and leave dusty "snow" or flaking all over the place over a few years (tried this with photos a while back and this is what happened to the wax paper. Photos were relatively ok though, but I can't say how wax paper will react with paint and pvc) Gold I haven't seen any issues with my wax paper wrap on my gardian rubber figures yet and it's been almost two years. They are wrapped and sitting in the styro accessory tray, not in their regular spots. I'll check and report back. As far as using them under car tires, they could be changed out but I don't think the paper would degrade that quickly. And yes, for blocks to elevate items you could use your choice of material, depending on what kind of toy it will be touching - acrylic, glass, wood, ceramic/porcelain/marble tiles, etc. Whatever you have handy or can get cheap and can be cut easily to the size(s) and thickness you desire. And they can be very thin blocks, we're talking just raising things enough so they don't touch down but still look like they are sitting on the ground.
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Post by KingboyD on Apr 9, 2015 8:12:28 GMT -5
So an update - I did not have a chance to go back to all my figures, but the few I remember having issues with were the Black Aoshima Getter, and maybe a few other Aoshima products. I thought that my GX-06 Getter trio also had some problems, but I forget specifics. More recently, I discovered that the foot on my Daiku Maryu broke out of the blue. Split where there was no seam before. I almost lost the spring that allows the foot to click. Very frustrating to find things deteriorating before my eyes. As I mentioned previously, the Bandai plastic items, like that Aura Battler Dunbines, were the worst. Joint cracked, etc. I really should have just left everything where it was. (I'm also discovering that many of my new and vintage items were not as complete as I remember - I bought some SOCs second hand, and some are missing parts. I am really becoming depressed over this whole collecting thing.)
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Post by B- on Apr 9, 2015 9:25:21 GMT -5
So an update - I did not have a chance to go back to all my figures, but the few I remember having issues with were the Black Aoshima Getter, and maybe a few other Aoshima products. I thought that my GX-06 Getter trio also had some problems, but I forget specifics. More recently, I discovered that the foot on my Daiku Maryu broke out of the blue. Split where there was no seam before. I almost lost the spring that allows the foot to click. Very frustrating to find things deteriorating before my eyes. As I mentioned previously, the Bandai plastic items, like that Aura Battler Dunbines, were the worst. Joint cracked, etc. I really should have just left everything where it was. (I'm also discovering that many of my new and vintage items were not as complete as I remember - I bought some SOCs second hand, and some are missing parts. I am really becoming depressed over this whole collecting thing.) Dont let it bug you pick up and go on,all collecting fields have these issues...I used to collect ww2 uniforms and they have issues like moths eating wool,comics getting water damage,coins getting dull,some things just cant be helped,things age in ways liek people do.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 9, 2015 16:22:17 GMT -5
All these broken rubber treads stories are freaking me out a little. I think I'm gonna start working on 3D printed treads to replace the rubber ones. There's a ton of them on the web that just need to be customized a little so they can be used as replacements. I really don't wanna be taking my figures with rubber parts out of their boxes or displays periodically to check if they are still okay. }|
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Apr 9, 2015 17:23:44 GMT -5
All these broken rubber treads stories are freaking me out a little. I think I'm gonna start working on 3D printed treads to replace the rubber ones. There's a ton of them on the web that just need to be customized a little so they can be used as replacements. I really don't wanna be taking my figures with rubber parts out of their boxes or displays periodically to check if they are still okay. }| Well said. No it's more than that, I agree with you 100%. Really, it's not even been a year since I've started this hobby, and I haven't bought any robots with rubber treads yet, but.. what are the chances that, after all this time, I'll still find a GX-03 Combattler with its treads in good conditions? Or a GX-06 Getter Robo? Or Whatever? Let's face it, even buying MISB ones, there's a good chance that some of those SoCs will have broken treads (sigh). Even Trider, one of the most recent SoCs, has rubber treads. Damn you Bandai. But I surely don't want to worry about dem treads for the rest of my life, just imagine "wake up dear, 4 months have passed: it's tread-checking day!". If someday I find that a toy has a broken tread, or if I buy an old toy and it comes with a broken one already (I should expect such a thing after all), I'll just do as you said: 3D-print one with plastic. I don't care if they won't roll anymore, I'd rather have a fixed tread than a broken one.
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Post by B- on Apr 10, 2015 20:46:27 GMT -5
All these broken rubber treads stories are freaking me out a little. I think I'm gonna start working on 3D printed treads to replace the rubber ones. There's a ton of them on the web that just need to be customized a little so they can be used as replacements. I really don't wanna be taking my figures with rubber parts out of their boxes or displays periodically to check if they are still okay. }| Well said. No it's more than that, I agree with you 100%. Really, it's not even been a year since I've started this hobby, and I haven't bought any robots with rubber treads yet, but.. what are the chances that, after all this time, I'll still find a GX-03 Combattler with its treads in good conditions? Or a GX-06 Getter Robo? Or Whatever? Let's face it, even buying MISB ones, there's a good chance that some of those SoCs will have broken treads (sigh). Even Trider, one of the most recent SoCs, has rubber treads. Damn you Bandai. But I surely don't want to worry about dem treads for the rest of my life, just imagine "wake up dear, 4 months have passed: it's tread-checking day!". If someday I find that a toy has a broken tread, or if I buy an old toy and it comes with a broken one already (I should expect such a thing after all), I'll just do as you said: 3D-print one with plastic. I don't care if they won't roll anymore, I'd rather have a fixed tread than a broken one. GUYS I REALLY think this all depends on where you live,climate,if you display in dust free closed cases,how dry or wet,how hot or cold,a million factors,NOT ONE of my rubber treads has cracked NOT ONE,Grendizer had SLIGHT discoloration on Mariner rubber tread,all the rest are totally fine and had them all for years. If yours are ok still just add the treatment Ive shown and Chachi videoed.I really think sealed old SOCs will be fine if bought now...Just watch how you take care of your toys,anything in exposed air will get old and dry and DUSTY!!! DUST IS THE ENEMY!! it ruins paint etc etc,dust mites live in dust do you want microscopic critters eating your SOC paint? When you dust or wipe dust off on paint it WILL scratch! Dust is particles of many things including hard dry dead skin!!COME ON!! if you can afford these toys you can afford enclosed cases!!
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