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Post by greengetterguy on Mar 26, 2019 12:05:30 GMT -5
Come on Tiffer I know you're a cool cat but please be easy on SGokin... He really is a nice member who ALWAYS contribute to this forum. I know you are too...So come on let's be cool.
As for Me? You KNOW I'm a Hater first then I'm a playah~!!
I do HATE it when Bandai teases and let me down weather its was intentional or not...
There IS no argument from me that Bandai IS the OG and the BEST in the industry. And believe or not I DO love Bandai for it. ( doesn't mean it wont get some tough love from me) ....I love playing with its product (hence a playah~ teehee.)
I can't wait for this AWESOME release. Who should be the next FA do you think? Gaiking? Tetsujin? Jeeg..Hahahaha
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Post by bocasas on Mar 26, 2019 12:21:54 GMT -5
Well until now FA have focused on combiners... so may be gaogaigar or daltanias would be good choices.
I think many got the number skip as a sign of something big and it wasn't (bandai never said so) but in the end is just a number. They might have told that vehicle voltron was the gx84... and use another number for this one. So they did gave us a great surprise just not under the name gx84.
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Post by TattooedRobot on Mar 26, 2019 19:41:25 GMT -5
Bandai never promised that every time they skip a number it means it's something you haven't see before. That's an assumption you made. If you want to get upset over it, that's on you. A lot of us never made that assumption.
Remember, there are plenty of things that have been revealed that still don't have release dates. Ideon, Combattler, Getter Go, and God Mazinger among them. Don't be surprised if they get plugged into unused slots if Bandai determines they fit current demand and can be worked into a manufacturing schedule. Or they might not be made at all. Nothing is certain in this hobby.
i dont see where is the "A lot of us never made that assumption" ? its only you and TattooedRobot , also your point is not valid,
did we know or even saw the GX-70 before they reveal it, nope keep in mind they reveal the GX-71 Voltron before it
did we know or even saw the GX-76 before they reveal it, nope
did we know or even saw the GX-81 before they reveal it, nope
wow triple nope in EVER time they skipped a number, i guess it will be very STUPID to think that the next time they do it, it will be something we never saw before
come on man numbers dont lie, its the logical thing, because it happened EVERY time they did that, why would they skip a number unless if it something they were working on for a long time and they need to make sure its perfect before the reveal ?
jump a number hide the character for a long time = it must be something new we didn't see before, its not a rocket science
i wont have any problems with any of the figures you mentioned and what number they will hold since all of the unknown GXs got revealed
last thing are suggesting that Bandai are ruining blindly without any plans ? seriously ?
let me break it to you there is NOTHING called "unused slots" with global companies, they ALREADY knows WHAT they are going to do and WHEN they are going to do it, there is a short term plans and a long term plans, and those plans wont change for anything unless they got a huge disaster
Well if Bandai actually hyped GX-84 I would agree with you. (Like they hyped-up GX-81) But that never happened, Bandai never was like watch out collectors BIG reveal for ‘84. I am here looking at Bandai working overtime re-releasing a bunch of popular releases, including another GoLion run and then Diarugger reveal, which is a HIGHLY anticipated SOC to say the least. I understand anyone who thinks FA should be a subline but I look at it as Bandai giving fans who complained constantly about SRC scale what they asked for. But if you’re sitting around b*tching about numbering and whether a release should be in subline while Bandai is cranking out some of their best releases I’m more than a little dumbfounded I guess. I’m going to go check out Bandai’s Metal Build and Macross releases cause those are pretty amazing right now too.
same pointless point mentioned by tiffermore , are you guys related lol ?
dude Bandai doesn't need to hype anything, from our experience with them we get hyped when they jump a number (read the post above)
also last time they did "watch out big reveal and played a guessing game" it turn out to be a disappointment for them and for some of the collectors (GX-81) so i dont think they will do it again
if Diarugger was the GX-84 i wont have any problems since its clearly something big and complex to make, UNLIKE Zambot 3, which is just another FA figure. which is my main point that you and tiffermore cant get, the FA Zambot 3, is just another non complex FA figure that doesn't deserve to be a huge secret for all this time Whatever this is a boring conversation anyway. I like your pictures we can leave it at that..
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Post by TattooedRobot on Mar 26, 2019 20:54:07 GMT -5
I see both sides of the conversation. No, Bandai doesn't do a lot of "mystery" sh*t like announcing announcements, but it'd be nice to know that when a new SOC is announced that you know you're going to get an actual Soul of Chogokin pieces vs. a Full Action piece which is more akin to what SRCs were at a slightly larger scale. Personally, I find it pretty lazy on Bandai's part and it feels like instead of working to build a better reputation for a line that wasn't doing so hot that they just shoehorned the products into a line that's doing better. At this rate they could throw some diecast onto jumbos and start releasing them in the SoC line as SOC: Big Popies. It's pretty silly when you look at the implications of a line that went with 70-something odd releases suddenly becoming this hodge-podged variety line. In fact, with Bandai not really releasing a "hit" since GX-71 It comes off as an admittance of failure them doing this. I don't take any personal offense to them doing it but I definitely think s _Gokin has a valid point albeit relayed in a manner that may read very concisely. You know I respect your postion. To be fair though the SOC line has been a hodge-podged variety line since they started jamming ships like the Yamato in at least 10 years ago. While I completely agree that Bandai should have kept going with SRC, as I’m a huge fan of that line, I don’t see why a FA isn’t an “SOC” they are the same scale as the vast majority of SOC releases. I think they’re more interesting than the SOC DC line which doesn’t really bring anything new to the table outside of sculpting, articulation is hardly better than GX-01. I completely understand why someone might not like the FAs, personally I thought jamming the Yamato in again as GX-86 was lame but none of this is really new for the line in my opinion. I think we all have our ideas what the SOC line “should” be but we probably aren’t going to all agree. But I like that idea of Diecast Big Popy SOC that would be sick! I am already collecting the Toysmen line that does that, I would absolutely love Bandai to jump on the train as well.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Mar 26, 2019 22:50:57 GMT -5
I see both sides of the conversation. No, Bandai doesn't do a lot of "mystery" sh*t like announcing announcements, but it'd be nice to know that when a new SOC is announced that you know you're going to get an actual Soul of Chogokin pieces vs. a Full Action piece which is more akin to what SRCs were at a slightly larger scale. Personally, I find it pretty lazy on Bandai's part and it feels like instead of working to build a better reputation for a line that wasn't doing so hot that they just shoehorned the products into a line that's doing better. At this rate they could throw some diecast onto jumbos and start releasing them in the SoC line as SOC: Big Popies. It's pretty silly when you look at the implications of a line that went with 70-something odd releases suddenly becoming this hodge-podged variety line. In fact, with Bandai not really releasing a "hit" since GX-71 It comes off as an admittance of failure them doing this. I don't take any personal offense to them doing it but I definitely think s _Gokin has a valid point albeit relayed in a manner that may read very concisely. You know I respect your postion. To be fair though the SOC line has been a hodge-podged variety line since they started jamming ships like the Yamato in at least 10 years ago. While I completely agree that Bandai should have kept going with SRC, as I’m a huge fan of that line, I don’t see why a FA isn’t an “SOC” they are the same scale as the vast majority of SOC releases. I think they’re more interesting than the SOC DC line which doesn’t really bring anything new to the table outside of sculpting, articulation is hardly better than GX-01. I completely understand why someone might not like the FAs, personally I thought jamming the Yamato in again as GX-86 was lame but none of this is really new for the line in my opinion. I think we all have our ideas what the SOC line “should” be but we probably aren’t going to all agree. But I like that idea of Diecast Big Popy SOC that would be sick! I am already collecting the Toysmen line that does that, I would absolutely love Bandai to jump on the train as well. It's not really a matter of like vs. dislike which I feel like this is kind of side-barring into (I'm apathetic towards them in general if it matters,) but rather standards set by the line. The only non-transforming combiners released in the line IIRC up until these have been the Getters. I think I can say it's not just opinion based that the Soul of CHogokin line over the years has been their premium line in terms of presenting the most screen accurate, transforming (if transforming,) larger-scaled diecast representations of Super Robots. Again, the non-transforming, smaller, more articulated representations were relegated over to the Super Robot Chogokin line. If you look at the Full Action Daimos, it obviously doesn't fit the same line standards of the Soul of Chogokin Daimos. The Yamato on the other hand is literally a large, diecast representation of a known anime piece. Again, it has nothing to do with like, dislike, good enough, or any of that subjective whatever but just looking at the line for what it's been vs. what it looks to be becoming. At this rate, outside of Dairugger I don't know if I'll ever buy any newer SOCs again (need a few more older releases and then I honestly feel like I'll be "complete,") so it's not a personal thing; just taking a step back, looking at all of the points made and saying I can see where SG was coming from on his side and realistically I think he has a pretty good point.
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Post by S_Gokin on Mar 27, 2019 2:55:04 GMT -5
You're right, man. There's no way a theory that solid would ever be disproven.
Hmm. Yes. Clearly this delayed numbering was the plan from the beginning. Will you boycott Bandai to teach them a lesson?
you are getting confused, it not a theory its called logical thinking
if its not right be my guest and prove it wrong convince me
im very positive that you dont know how global companies run, its their plan, stupid plan yes, but it was there long ago, your funny term of "unused slots" is just not there
unless if Bandai was a restaurant
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Post by S_Gokin on Mar 27, 2019 2:59:19 GMT -5
Whatever this is a boring conversation anyway. I like your pictures we can leave it at that..
i dont really see how my photos have any thing to deal with this conversation ?
but i guess you find it boring, because you and tiffermore found out that i have a solid point for thinking the GX-84 will be something new
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Post by S_Gokin on Mar 27, 2019 3:15:26 GMT -5
Come on Tiffer I know you're a cool cat but please be easy on SGokin... He really is a nice member who ALWAYS contribute to this forum. I know you are too...So come on let's be cool. As for Me? You KNOW I'm a Hater first then I'm a playah~!! I do HATE it when Bandai teases and let me down weather its was intentional or not... There IS no argument from me that Bandai IS the OG and the BEST in the industry. And believe or not I DO love Bandai for it. ( doesn't mean it wont get some tough love from me) ....I love playing with its product (hence a playah~ teehee.) I can't wait for this AWESOME release. Who should be the next FA do you think? Gaiking? Tetsujin? Jeeg..Hahahaha truth hurts bro simple as that
i will get this hopefully but i will keep it in the warehouse for some time until i see reviews about it, if it have the same problems as the GX-82 it will be a skip
as for the next patch of FA figures for sure they will have Ideon
my guessing
Godmars
God Sigma
Daltanious
Trider G7
my wish list
Golion
Megazord (Daizyujin) Tobikage
Daltanious God Sigma
thats if they reveal 5 at ones of course
Well until now FA have focused on combiners... so may be gaogaigar or daltanias would be good choices. I think many got the number skip as a sign of something big and it wasn't (bandai never said so) but in the end is just a number. They might have told that vehicle voltron was the gx84... and use another number for this one. So they did gave us a great surprise just not under the name gx84.
if you look at it Bandai never said anything about the GX-70 or the GX-76 either, but they turn out to be something new, they kinda hyped us for the GX-81 and it turn out to be something new as well
its just a number yes but why all of this secrecy about it ?
your theory is very unlikely, im sure they know these stuff way early
btw Tekken this Friday ? i will be free
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Post by TattooedRobot on Mar 27, 2019 10:13:45 GMT -5
Whatever this is a boring conversation anyway. I like your pictures we can leave it at that..
i dont really see how my photos have any thing to deal with this conversation ?
but i guess you find it boring, because you and tiffermore found out that i have a solid point for thinking the GX-84 will be something new Actually I was just trying to move on. You don’t have a point and frankly I don’t really care what you think or what you built up GX-84 to be in YOUR mind. It’s not my issue or Bandai’s sort it out yourself.
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Post by voltes on Mar 27, 2019 10:21:45 GMT -5
Hella off topic but there really needs to be a new super robot fighting game with most of the mechas in the game. That way, people got beef? Settle it in a set in srw fighting game lol. I would main Golion easy(make him a charge character like guile😬).
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Post by TattooedRobot on Mar 27, 2019 10:34:34 GMT -5
You know I respect your postion. To be fair though the SOC line has been a hodge-podged variety line since they started jamming ships like the Yamato in at least 10 years ago. While I completely agree that Bandai should have kept going with SRC, as I’m a huge fan of that line, I don’t see why a FA isn’t an “SOC” they are the same scale as the vast majority of SOC releases. I think they’re more interesting than the SOC DC line which doesn’t really bring anything new to the table outside of sculpting, articulation is hardly better than GX-01. I completely understand why someone might not like the FAs, personally I thought jamming the Yamato in again as GX-86 was lame but none of this is really new for the line in my opinion. I think we all have our ideas what the SOC line “should” be but we probably aren’t going to all agree. But I like that idea of Diecast Big Popy SOC that would be sick! I am already collecting the Toysmen line that does that, I would absolutely love Bandai to jump on the train as well. It's not really a matter of like vs. dislike which I feel like this is kind of side-barring into (I'm apathetic towards them in general if it matters,) but rather standards set by the line. The only non-transforming combiners released in the line IIRC up until these have been the Getters. I think I can say it's not just opinion based that the Soul of CHogokin line over the years has been their premium line in terms of presenting the most screen accurate, transforming (if transforming,) larger-scaled diecast representations of Super Robots. Again, the non-transforming, smaller, more articulated representations were relegated over to the Super Robot Chogokin line. If you look at the Full Action Daimos, it obviously doesn't fit the same line standards of the Soul of Chogokin Daimos. The Yamato on the other hand is literally a large, diecast representation of a known anime piece. Again, it has nothing to do with like, dislike, good enough, or any of that subjective whatever but just looking at the line for what it's been vs. what it looks to be becoming. At this rate, outside of Dairugger I don't know if I'll ever buy any newer SOCs again (need a few more older releases and then I honestly feel like I'll be "complete,") so it's not a personal thing; just taking a step back, looking at all of the points made and saying I can see where SG was coming from on his side and realistically I think he has a pretty good point. I see where your coming from however I respectfully disagree. The FA line so far has not incorporated any larger scale combiners that have not already been released as SOC larger-scale combiners. They’ve been represented in that form already. Bandai is also still continuing to make regular smaller non-transformating SOCs like GX-01, as well as larger scale combiners like Dairugger. We’re just getting more in the line not a whole sale change. That’s why I was pointing out the Ships like Yamato. Hell I remember when Bandai started dropping diecast content in larger combiners that people complained it was not appropriate for the SOC line cause it lacked diecast. I see your point but I do think what makes an SOC an SOC is somewhat subjective. Which I have zero issue with including S_Gokin what I do think is crazy is assuming GX-84 was destined to be some big reveal because it wasn’t announced with the Number or whatever. I get being disappointed with it being an FA I am disappointed every time it's a ship.... I would be interesting if Bandai nailed down specific guidelines for SOC I am not sure what they would be, even Gypsy Danger was a wierd inclusion.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Mar 27, 2019 11:27:53 GMT -5
So wait a second; these Full Action pieces are the same height as the transforming SOCs? If so, I've gotta' say I lean more towards them being fine. If not, I'm same stance as prior. Either way, I'm stepping out of this conversation as it's gotten way too long and circular on all ends including my own for off-topic conversation about a product line I'm not even buying. Edit: I guess it's one of those things to where I feel like everyone has explained their points and positions very well and either way it doesn't "change" anything in the sense that it's on Bandai to decide what they're going to do with their own stuff.
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Post by TattooedRobot on Mar 27, 2019 14:31:24 GMT -5
So wait a second; these Full Action pieces are the same height as the transforming SOCs? If so, I've gotta' say I lean more towards them being fine. If not, I'm same stance as prior. Either way, I'm stepping out of this conversation as it's gotten way too long and circular on all ends including my own for off-topic conversation about a product line I'm not even buying. Edit: I guess it's one of those things to where I feel like everyone has explained their points and positions very well and either way it doesn't "change" anything in the sense that it's on Bandai to decide what they're going to do with their own stuff. Completely agree.
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Post by S_Gokin on Mar 28, 2019 6:05:03 GMT -5
Which I have zero issue with including S_Gokin what I do think is crazy is assuming GX-84 was destined to be some big reveal because it wasn’t announced with the Number or whatever. I get being disappointed with it being an FA I am disappointed every time it's a ship.... I would be interesting if Bandai nailed down specific guidelines for SOC I am not sure what they would be, even Gypsy Danger was a wierd inclusion.
actually what is crazy is when a person explain his point of view using FACTS yet you choose to ignore them for whatever issues you have ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
even when others agreed with that person point
anyways i dont have any issues with anyone here in RJ and i would like to keep it that way, i said what i think is right and why i think its right, feel free to agree or disagree, i couldn't care less about your opinion unless if you have some valid points
at the end we didn't convince each other, so life goes on
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Post by TattooedRobot on Mar 28, 2019 11:47:16 GMT -5
Which I have zero issue with including S_Gokin what I do think is crazy is assuming GX-84 was destined to be some big reveal because it wasn’t announced with the Number or whatever. I get being disappointed with it being an FA I am disappointed every time it's a ship.... I would be interesting if Bandai nailed down specific guidelines for SOC I am not sure what they would be, even Gypsy Danger was a wierd inclusion.
actually what is crazy is when a person explain his point of view using FACTS yet you choose to ignore them for whatever issues you have ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
even when others agreed with that person point
anyways i dont have any issues with anyone here in RJ and i would like to keep it that way, i said what i think is right and why i think its right, feel free to agree or disagree, i couldn't care less about your opinion unless if you have some valid points
at the end we didn't convince each other, so life goes on
Yes you didn’t convince me your opinion is a fact. Opinions aren’t facts, it’s a tough concept I know but let’s move on.
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Post by S_Gokin on Mar 28, 2019 19:11:46 GMT -5
Yes you didn’t convince me your opinion is a fact. Opinions aren’t facts, it’s a tough concept I know but let’s move on.
the only tough concept is your understanding, show me where did i said that my opinion is a fact ?
what i said was my opinion is BASED on facts, so dont start imagining stuff that i didn't said
i guess there is a gap between what im saying and what you (want to) understand
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Post by Chen on Mar 29, 2019 6:11:00 GMT -5
Let's move on.
Any idea when PO's will start? Been selling my combiners when I get a FA version comes out.
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Post by S_Gokin on Apr 5, 2019 9:21:19 GMT -5
official page is up
preorder starts on the 8th of April
EDITED
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Post by greengetterguy on Apr 5, 2019 11:35:25 GMT -5
Thanks S.
Three days from Now? Wow That's really fast.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Apr 5, 2019 13:39:01 GMT -5
You know... this whole line is absolutely gorgeous. Random post, but honestly just visually I love looking at pictures of these.
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