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Post by malakas on Apr 13, 2013 8:55:29 GMT -5
The belt would make it too juvenile. The iconic chest plates are enough.
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Post by Orbitron on Apr 22, 2013 18:31:03 GMT -5
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Post by mrclean08 on May 27, 2013 0:11:17 GMT -5
Guys, I pulled out my GX-31V Voltes V out of storage and when I was assembling Voltes V, I noticed that all the rubber hands in the accessories tray were "sticky." It seems like the paint has gotten sticky and if I press hard enough, I can leave visible fingerprints (although I can wipe them off 'clean'. Is the rubber breaking down? I checked the other rubber parts like the tank treads and they are fine. It's just the blue rubber hands that feel weird.
FYI, I have had my Voltes V stored in room temperature in my bedroom. It has not ever been exposed to the elements nor has it been stored in extreme temperatures. I'm kinda confused as to what's going on here. Anyone experience this or something similar?
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Post by Chen on May 27, 2013 5:24:12 GMT -5
Sounds like the rubber is breaking down, I've noticed that toys last longer if exposed to air, no direct sunlight, and as cool as possible. Toys will break down no matter what but its like if toys aren't exposed to air its like they don't cure and start to breakdown on the otherhand they will also dry out and get brittle too. You should also fiddle with them once in awhile so the plastic can be worked and things don't get stuck in one position.
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Post by mecha-mania on May 27, 2013 5:40:38 GMT -5
The same thing happened to my soc battle fever when its arm turned brittle and broken off.
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Post by mrclean08 on May 27, 2013 12:02:11 GMT -5
Due to paranoia now, I did a clean sweep of the gokins in my bedroom this morning. I'm going to have to do a clean sweep in my storage when I have time afterward. Here are my findings on the rubber hands of my various pieces: - GX-31V Voltes V - Most stickiest hands. Fingerprints appear if handled (but can easily be wiped off). All fingers are stiff/hard and not flexible at all.
GX-31 Voltes V - Slightly sticky hands, but not as sticky as GX-31V. Noticeable dryness on some areas of hands. Fingers are still flexible.
- GX-60 God Sigma - Fine
- GX-59 Daltanious - Fine
- GX-43 Daimos - Fine
- GX-50 Combattler V - Fine
- Brave Gokin 30 Gordian - Slightly sticky hands (like GX-31)
- GX-40 God Mars - Fine
I also had a few vinyl figures like the High Dreams Mazinger, Great Mazinger, and Grendizer. The only thing I noticed with those is that they kinda stuck to the plastic tray, but no damage occurred. I was worried that paint would be stuck to the plastic, but they were all fine. All my figures were stored in their respective boxes for years and were never displayed out in the open. Many of the hand parts were never ever removed from the plastic trays until a few minutes ago today. I had to cut the factory tape to open the plastic trays for the first time because of my paranoia last night with my findings with GX-31V. So many of these "sticky" hands were handled for the very first time ever by me as of this morning. I wonder why some hands seem to break down faster than others. I remember hearing horror stories of how some people's Hot Toys DX Batman figures had seeping oil from the body's rubber suit.
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Post by greengetterguy on May 27, 2013 15:00:28 GMT -5
Oof...Yeah. Sorry to hear that but samething happened to my toys recently too. I also live in So Cal.. When I was reorganizing my studio, same thing happen to my Aoshima Getter 1 Training hands.... I'm sure you know, like I "THINK" it's due to chemical reaction between different PVC, the environment and other plastic component parts staying in contact for a long time....
That's why I'm such an advocate for saying no to extremely toxic PVCs and styro in our toys let alone collectables........I think if the companies only used safer ABS plastics like Lego and Playmobil, this def wouldn't happen..
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Post by mrclean08 on May 27, 2013 15:21:01 GMT -5
Is the styrofoam that some of our toys are housed in, acidic? I haven't noticed anything bad happen to any of my plastic toys that are housed with stryofoam yet.
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Post by OzmaLee on May 27, 2013 16:03:03 GMT -5
Just checked my GX-31V. Looks like mine are somewhat sticky but still flexible. I've never opened the accessory tray til now so I really can't confirm if they were like this when I first bought it. I'm wondering if they were like this when they were packed in the box since most toys have oils needed to help release them from the molds. I know that my Mac F renewal valks are always oily when I first open them up.
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Post by mrclean08 on May 27, 2013 18:02:18 GMT -5
Just checked my GX-31V. Looks like mine are somewhat sticky but still flexible. I've never opened the accessory tray til now so I really can't confirm if they were like this when I first bought it. I'm wondering if they were like this when they were packed in the box since most toys have oils needed to help release them from the molds. I know that my Mac F renewal valks are always oily when I first open them up. I can vouch that on both my GX-31V and GX-31 (regular), when I first got them, the hands were not sticky at all. I noticed my Daimos hands do not the sticky surface yet, although I noticed oil seeped out of the connector side. I'm guessing the lack of air flow to "breathe" in these air tight trays is what is degrading the rubber parts. Since discovering all these sticky hands, I've since removed them from the trays and are exposing them to "breathe".
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Post by OzmaLee on May 27, 2013 18:45:18 GMT -5
Oh I see. Well, checked my GX-31 and it does not seem to have the same problem as the 31V. I wiped the fists off with a damp cloth and they seem to be ok. Plugged them into the arms and they seem to be fine.
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Post by Mr. Ginrai on May 27, 2013 20:50:37 GMT -5
It's most likely one of two things: the plastic itself is changing or breaking down due to age, or it is reacting with the plastic or foam packaging.
If you are familiar with M.A.S.K. Toys, some of the masks and figures become sticky over time on their own, even if they are stored in cardboard. Some plastic is starting to show its age, so I do t find it strange that this would happen with SOC as well.
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Post by greengetterguy on May 27, 2013 20:56:00 GMT -5
MrClean08, if possible might want to ventilate the area by opening the window little or something though.... PVC vapor's toxic...
Unlike "MOST" toy companies and vendors, I do care about bros' health...
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Post by mrclean08 on May 27, 2013 22:56:12 GMT -5
Thanks greengetterguy. I got really paranoid with a bunch of other robots rubber parts then I stumbled upon an article that ziploc bags were bad for action figures and toy plastic. Most of my vintage G1 Transformers collection is stored in Ziploc which I also learned is NOT acid free, and thus causes rubber to get sticky and for plastic to yellow.
I ended up purchasing a bunch of new acid free polypropylene ziploc bags that were recommended by a toy blog. These bags are meant for long term archival purposes and do not damage toy plastic like standard Ziploc brand bags do from the store/market. It was kinda pricey but definitely the price I'm willing to pay rather than have my toys/collectibles ruined in the long run.
I'll be storing all my future SOC rubber parts separately from the air tight plastic trays from now on.
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Post by mecha-mania on May 28, 2013 0:31:22 GMT -5
say, if the hands of the gx-31v's hands are made of rubber, dosent it make it susceptible to diffusion and fuse with surrounding objects like the styrofoam tray if it had been left in the box for sometime?
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Post by mecha-mania on May 28, 2013 2:53:55 GMT -5
FYI, I have had my Voltes V stored in room temperature in my bedroom. It has not ever been exposed to the elements nor has it been stored in extreme temperatures. I'm kinda confused as to what's going on here. Anyone experience this or something similar? I just checked both my gx-31 and gx-31v in my display cabinet and it appears that my gx-31v's hands are experiencing the same problem as described even though it have been displayed for awhile. The gx-31's hands seems by contrast. Looks like bandai used different materials when molding the hands.
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Post by mrclean08 on May 28, 2013 7:46:54 GMT -5
FYI, I have had my Voltes V stored in room temperature in my bedroom. It has not ever been exposed to the elements nor has it been stored in extreme temperatures. I'm kinda confused as to what's going on here. Anyone experience this or something similar? I just checked both my gx-31 and gx-31v in my display cabinet and it appears that my gx-31v's hands are experiencing the same problem as described even though it have been displayed for awhile. The gx-31's hands seems by contrast. Looks like bandai used different materials when molding the hands. Interesting. So my theory about the hands degrading due to lack of air flow in the plastic tray may not be the reason after all. I agree, it must be that Bandai used different materials when molding the hands. And it sounds like its a universal thing with everyone's Voltes V hands. Maybe I should get the hands recasted in resin to preserve them before they get really bad in the future.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on May 28, 2013 17:07:45 GMT -5
The Aoshimas suffer from the same thing - sticky rubber hands and capes. it's the chemicals leaching out, nothing that can be done about it. }D
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Post by xtrlowz75 on Jul 2, 2013 0:09:53 GMT -5
This has most likely been said before, but wow the GX-31 is so much smaller than the original Popy/Godaikin Voltes V. I took pictures of them and each vehicle side by side and the vintage Voltes is so huge in comparison. Though of course the GX-31 is way more detailed and articulate, minus the cool missile launchers of the vintage Voltes. Its really funny holding the Volt-Panzer in hand. The vintage Panzer is near 3 times the size of the SOC Panzer alone. The only parts that even come close to each in size are the Volt-Landers. Of course the vintage Landers are bigger but just a hair over twice the size of the SOC Landers. At least most of the parts are to each Voltes are in proportion, with exception to the Volt-Crewzer. The SOC Crewzer I think is way to small, its still cool and transforms super smooth but way small compared to the rest of the parts of the SOC Voltes. It gives the SOC a bit of a tiny head. On the vintage the Crewzer is just right and just matches the rest of the robot, giving it a nice detailed good sized head. Just thought I'd put this out there, getting to do my first photos and comparison with both. I'll see if I can get a few photos up tomorrow for fun or for those that haven't put both side by side.
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Post by mecha-mania on Jul 2, 2013 0:35:09 GMT -5
well, lets hope for a DX Soc Voltes V
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