chung
Junior Robot
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Post by chung on Jan 26, 2006 3:48:54 GMT -5
Hi,
I am a newbie, collecting SOC, and began to expand my collection to Godaikin.
Last month, I won an auction for Godaikin Google V from a seller in eBay at USD 187.50. The seller advertised it as Mint in Box, complete with card, instruction, weapon, unopened missile packs.
Upon receiving it, I was shocked to find an old box, with a lot of shelf wear, and a 3 inches long cut in the lower lid. In addition, the robot is not mint at all, the chrome is not shining anymore. Worst than that, the sword given, belongs to Sun Vulcan. The sword is shining only one side.
I asked the seller for compensation, but he tried to put all the blame on me for not asking for more photos. The photos posted in the auction was taken in the way to hide all the damages on the box, and the sword.
Finally, the seller agreed to compensate USD 20.00, and said he would transfer the money after new year. But still did not hear from him after several emails.
What should I do? Should I file a claim with Paypal, or just leave negative feedback? What is the procedure of Paypal claim? Thanks in advance for your advice..
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Post by jwm on Jan 26, 2006 11:40:25 GMT -5
Hey chung, welcome to RJ.
This sounds like one to chalk up to experience. I'd leave a negative feedback on the guy and forget it. Unfortunately, there are unscrupulous sellers who misrepresent condition, jerk you around with shipping- eh, it's part of the game. At least you got the figure. If the sword is wrong, be patient, and maybe the right one will come up in a lot of miscellaneous parts, or you could pick up another Gogle sometime, take the best of both sets and re-sell what's left. (but honestly)
JWM
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Post by andrewdsz on Jan 26, 2006 17:34:36 GMT -5
Well, the toy is like 100 yrs old, so paypal wont do anything about it, we all know old stuff WILL be torned over the times.
And it is absolutely not smart to leave him negative since he is going to do the same to you. If communication is failed, I guess you will have to take the result (as a common sense of online ebay shopping) else you will end up score yourself a negative... ...
Trust me, I did leave out two sellers negatives and scored two negatives back before and right now im so regreting it everytime it comes up my mind.
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Post by jwm on Jan 26, 2006 18:07:15 GMT -5
Andrewdsz: I haven't done all that much bidding on e-bay auctions, so I'm curious: How did getting a negative feedback from a seller cause you problems?
JWM
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Post by sketcher on Jan 26, 2006 18:30:23 GMT -5
You could always leave "NO" feedback. I have done that on occasion when I have been disappointed. This way you don't have the retaliatory neg feedback. Mark this to experience. As your eBay experience goes up, you will start becoming instinctual about the bad ones. Ask questions if there any chance of a doubt in your mind. Sometimes there is not always time, if you found the piece just before close, but you ALWAYS take a risk buying from strangers. Take into account, the sellers feedback, how long they have been selling. Check for negs and what those were. The buyers will usually state the issue in their feedback to sellers. It requires a little more digging sometimes, but you will be glad you did. As for that retaliatory feedback, that usually means nothing if people check the circumstances. Good luck and welcome to the board!
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Post by xiombarg on Jan 26, 2006 20:45:49 GMT -5
If you don't sell things on eBay I would leave him negative feedback for sure. If he gives you bad feedback it doesn't really matter unless you are a seller. But even if you are a seller sometimes, I would still leave him bad feedback because he's the jerk and he deserves it. Be aware that if he does leave you bad feedback, ebay gives you the opportunity to reply to your own bad feedback so that others can read how you responded to the situation. Be sure and do this.
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Post by lancerx on Jan 26, 2006 20:58:05 GMT -5
just forget about it, 20 bucks is not worth of a negative feedback, just creat new accounts from time to time so if you need to lea a NF it won't affect your best account, that what i did.
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Post by xiombarg on Jan 26, 2006 22:14:28 GMT -5
Man, you guys suck! Feedback ratings are there to let others know when a seller is dishonest so he doesn't screw another byer again, and the whole system breaks down if you let the jerk-offs get away with this crap.
So you guys think it's not worth sacrificing your own score??? I disagree completely. A bullsh*t negative feedback given to you as a buyer doesn't mean half as much compared to negative feedback given to a lying seller. Chung, you should rip this bunk seller a new one.
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Post by supergetterv on Jan 26, 2006 22:27:19 GMT -5
Having a high perfect score only matters if you are a seller. Sellers should be honest so that they don't receive a negative score. Thats why everyone should have a Buyer ID and a Seller ID on ebay. You don't really need to care if your score is bad as a buyer. As long as you are paying for winning auctions, sellers wont retract or drop your bids. Sellers usually don't look at your Score or how many negative you got, all they want is to receive the money. SO Chris, you should definately rip the guy for ripping you off. I read the scores before I buy from someone I have never purchased before. YOU are actually helping me out and other ebay buyers by posting a negative messages. That seller wont be getting as many bids with a negative message and he deserves it for not being honest.
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Post by lancerx on Jan 27, 2006 8:46:08 GMT -5
What's you feedback and what's his?, for 20 bucks is not worth it.
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Post by junkyard on Jan 27, 2006 9:26:29 GMT -5
Man, you guys suck! Feedback ratings are there to let others know when a seller is dishonest so he doesn't screw another byer again, and the whole system breaks down if you let the jerk-offs get away with this crap. Exactly, show some backbone please. Sellers just require that you send them the money - I think they can trust you after that. If you get a retaliatory feedback, tell briefly what happened and indicate to a reader where to go for good info on the subject. I usually post about my dramas on a related newsgroup somewhere. Tell people you are user "so and so" on "such and such" forum to get the real scoop. We regular users of these forums get at least some cred. We at least know that other users generally have no reason to tell us lies. And personally, I appreciate the warning about bad sellers.
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chung
Junior Robot
Posts: 9
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Post by chung on Jan 27, 2006 11:08:55 GMT -5
My feedback is only 53, his is 56
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Post by jwm on Jan 27, 2006 11:26:43 GMT -5
If I am suspiscious of a seller, or have a dispute, going I always mention Robot-Japan to them in an e-mail. I provide a link, and let them know that I am a member here (and at TBDX). I let them know that their customer base is a well connected community that shares bad news about dealers very quickly. A bad reputation here can hurt their business worse than an e-bay feedback. We have over 2000 members here, and who knows how many others over at TBDX. That's a huge chunk of potential customers.
JWM
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Post by sketcher on Jan 27, 2006 11:58:04 GMT -5
Xiombarg, I think your statement was kinda harsh. ("You guys suck! ....") No offense taken, and none inferred, but you should read my post again. I am kinda on the fence about feedback in general. Of course I did not qualify my statement with the fact that I also sell. Who only buys and never sells anything? Anyone? I have sold many things under the 2 eBay IDs I hold. When I decided to only collect Japanese toys because it was always my passion, I sold all of my other collections via eBay. Feedback is important to a point. But a new guy just starting out may not need the negative regardless, because he is trying to build his eBay presence. A negative feedback when you have 50 or so feedbacks can be detrimental to your score. Just clarifying my intended message.
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Post by xiombarg on Jan 27, 2006 21:11:45 GMT -5
Xiombarg, I think your statement was kinda harsh. ("You guys suck! ....") No offense taken, and none inferred, but you should read my post again. I am kinda on the fence about feedback in general. Of course I did not qualify my statement with the fact that I also sell. Who only buys and never sells anything? Anyone? I have sold many things under the 2 eBay IDs I hold. When I decided to only collect Japanese toys because it was always my passion, I sold all of my other collections via eBay. Feedback is important to a point. But a new guy just starting out may not need the negative regardless, because he is trying to build his eBay presence. A negative feedback when you have 50 or so feedbacks can be detrimental to your score. Just clarifying my intended message. I didn't mean that you suck, just everyone here in general. ;D Ok, so anyway. Even if your feedback score is 50, but 100% positive. One negative feedback is only 2%. I still say it's worth it. But I say it's worth it no matter what your score is.
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Post by lancerx on Jan 27, 2006 22:14:00 GMT -5
My feedback is only 53, his is 56 In that case screw him and leave him a negative feeback, don't worry, go ahead and tell the truth to other people.
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Post by lancerx on Jan 27, 2006 22:16:06 GMT -5
Xiombarg, I think your statement was kinda harsh. ("You guys suck! ....") No offense taken, and none inferred, but you should read my post again. I am kinda on the fence about feedback in general. Of course I did not qualify my statement with the fact that I also sell. Who only buys and never sells anything? Anyone? I have sold many things under the 2 eBay IDs I hold. When I decided to only collect Japanese toys because it was always my passion, I sold all of my other collections via eBay. Feedback is important to a point. But a new guy just starting out may not need the negative regardless, because he is trying to build his eBay presence. A negative feedback when you have 50 or so feedbacks can be detrimental to your score. Just clarifying my intended message. don't worry, he just meant me, i'm used to it
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Post by Chen on Jan 27, 2006 22:49:38 GMT -5
He doesn't mean you Lancerx, xiomberg just thinks everyone sucks ;D
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chung
Junior Robot
Posts: 9
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Post by chung on Feb 1, 2006 1:19:52 GMT -5
Thanks for all valuable feedbacks. I will go ahead and leave him negative feedback..
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