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Post by mazfan on Nov 5, 2006 21:37:41 GMT -5
I know that lots of people have or are complaining about the recent SOC releases:
- GX-32 Gold Lightan - GX-33 Leopardon - GX37 King Joe
Okay, so I am one of them. In my opinion, I feel that there is now less robots to do for the SOC line and so Bandai is releasing just about anything. I didn't complain at all about the releases from GX01 to GX31. I found them all great looking, hence buying all of them. But lately, the ones that are being released seem less desirable. Aside from the fact that I do not know any of them; aesthetically, they are not pleasing to the eye. When you have no history with these robots or characters, the way they look is the only way you can judge them.
On the other hand, despite saying that I will end my SOC collection after GX31... I now am planning on getting Gunbuster (my spouse is actually getting it for me for Christmas or birthday--I am not supposed to know this). I have no clue about Gunbuster but I want it because I find it to look really cool.
In short, myself and the folks who do not support the newer releases do not mean to offend anyone with our strong opinions against Gold Lightan, Leopardon and King Joe. We just find them hokey looking.
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Post by GDomino on Nov 5, 2006 22:26:19 GMT -5
We'll see yah when Daimos is released...
There really is no need to to keep announcing to the world of your retirement from your Soul of chogokin completionist black and white thinking. No one is holding a gun to your head that you have to buy whatever the SOC's line releases. BUY WHAT YOU WANT...
What do you hope to accomplish by this thread? It is getting redundant. Sure the SOC brand is in a dry spell right now, but you can't blame Bandai for spacing things out to keep the line alive. It's just profit management. Aoshima, Fewture, and MaxFactory releases good robots also, it's your choice NOT to check them out, so it's pointless complaining about your own choices. If anything, it shows your refusal to open yourself to other things, which is offending those who choose to be open and learn about other robots or other brands out there. There are plenty of good gokins out there.
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Post by Omni Existence on Nov 6, 2006 7:37:31 GMT -5
Hi Mazfan! I'm a Go Nagai SR buff, and a large part of my gokin collection are Nagai's SR's. Personally though, I can understand where you're coming from when it comes to the fairly "odd" SOC releases by Bandai lately, but we have to remember that the 70's was not Go Nagai's Super Robot era alone. Even if the more recognizable robots (whether in anime or in toy form) were mostly Nagai's (that's my PO ), there are about a hundred or so cartoons mecha or otherwise that have also appealed to a lot of people and have established a small but solid fanbase. We have to remember that Bandai is primarily a business. They may appear to give in to the majority, but they are also after that small band of fans rooting for the underdog super robot. Simply put, it's extra dough for them. There are others who will agree with your POV, but like what GDom said, just buy what you want. All you need to do is wait it out and the more popular SR's will be back in the lot again. ;D
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Post by lurkerx on Nov 6, 2006 12:49:14 GMT -5
actually, the SOC line isn't in a dry spell at all, rather its branching out much like the old popy lines. Essentially, it is trying to live up to its claim to be the "SOUL" of chogokin toys. I'm actually pretty happy with its variety, as it gives me an excuse to buy "one-offs" in a particular robot series without having to commit myself to buying the whole set or having an incomplete set. For example, Gold ligthan was the 1st and hopefully the last ligthan in my collection, I really won't be obliged to purchase other lightan unless they're under the SOC line, given the response to Goldy i don't think i have anything to worry about. One may actually just collect all the SOCs and still end up with a comprehensive, diversified robot collection...which is kind of cool If you want more super robot go nagai releases all you have to do is broaden your collection to include aoshima's selection, but as I read in your previous posts you're un-willing to do so. As Gdomino said "see you when they release daimos" in a way I rather envy your position in that at a time like today where I simply feel bombarded with pretty cool releases I just "have to have" and my wallet just can't keep up, you're starting a thread of "slim pickins" your wallet must be happy & prosperous and that's something positive to be proud of
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Post by gx9901 on Nov 6, 2006 16:23:21 GMT -5
While I find the choice of King Joe to be extremely curious, I've bee thrilled by the direction Bandai is going with the SOC line. Prior to this year I had been pretty lukewarm on the SOC line because there were too many Go Nagai type robots. To me, SOC Mazinger, Grendizer, Getter Robo, Gaiking, and maybe even Tetsujin 28 (I have all of these, by the way), are basically the same robot toy with different cosmetic designs. They look cool on the shelf but that's about it for me. No innovation in my view. Now, with Battle Fever Robo, Leopaldon, Gold Lightan, and big releases like Voltes V & Gunbuster, not to mention Ideon, SOC has really grabbed my attention of late. Each of these SOC's bring something different to the table, and I really like that. I hope Bandai keep going in this direction because it can only mean more innovative features and gimmicks in future SOC's.
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Post by mannyD on Nov 6, 2006 23:38:04 GMT -5
I'm actually pretty happy with its variety, as it gives me an excuse to buy "one-offs" in a particular robot series without having to commit myself to buying the whole set or having an incomplete set. For example, Gold ligthan was the 1st and hopefully the last ligthan in my collection, I really won't be obliged to purchase other lightan unless they're under the SOC line, given the response to Goldy i don't think i have anything to worry about. yeah i agree with ben, SOC is giving us a chance to appreciate other robots from different sources. having a taste of it all, which is really not a bad thing. let us try these odd bots that we don't know about. research a little on their history and legacy, we may end up appreciating them in the end
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Post by shantastic on Nov 7, 2006 20:55:53 GMT -5
Hey everybody. Newb here with my very first post. I've read a lot here about some of the die-hard SOC fans being disappointed with some of Bandai's recent choices, and while I can understand some of their arguments as not all of these Chogokins are true "legends" when it comes to super robots, it's because of some of these odd choices that I began collecting SOC's recently.
I've been a fan of the line for quite some time, but didn't want to take the plunge and start collecting such high-end stuff. The only SOC I had in my collection up to that point was Getter Dragon, because of his affordable price and because he's always been a personal favorite.
Fast forward to the release of Leopaldan. Now, I didn't know of the live-action Japanese Spiderman show until friends started recently posting clips of it on my myspace page. I've always been a fan of cheesy Sentai shows, and the cheese factor for this show was off the charts. When I found out that it was being made into a SOC I knew for sure that I was going to get it, and when searching for it online I ended up getting both Leopaldan and Battle Fever J, and now I'm hooked on SOC's and will probably go back and get a lot of the older ones that I missed out on originally.
Again, I realize that off-beat chogokins like Leopaldan and Battle Fever J can't hold a candle to legends like Mazinger Z and Voltes V, but even the most obscure robos have fans out there and if it can bring some new fans to the SOC line, why not?
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Post by mazfan on Nov 7, 2006 23:19:06 GMT -5
It's funny how I have been (and still is) accused of being "closed minded." How could this be? I've acquired all of the SOC line from GX01 to GX31. I didn't know all of them. And because of that, I started to explore. Example: I bought the Zambot, Tetsujin and Evangelion dvd's. What lured me to get the ones I didn't know were their awesome look and feel--first and foremost.
I got this visceral/gut feeling of repulsion when I saw GX-32 Gold Lightan, GX-33 Leopardon, and GX37 King Joe--I didn't get this sensation from any of the first 31 releases. With this in mind, I don't think that my decision not to get the three mentioned could be attributed purely on my not willing to open my mind.
On the other hand, I find Gunbuster to be really cool and I know that I will get this soon. I don't know anything about Gunbuster but I am willing to have it be a part of my collection. It looks great, what can I say (This despite me declaring to end my SOC collection)?
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Post by GDomino on Nov 8, 2006 4:54:52 GMT -5
It's funny how I have been (and still is) accused of being "closed minded." How could this be? I've acquired all of the SOC line from GX01 to GX31. I didn't know all of them. And because of that, I started to explore. Example: I bought the Zambot, Tetsujin and Evangelion dvd's. What lured me to get the ones I didn't know were their awesome look and feel--first and foremost. I got this visceral/gut feeling of repulsion when I saw GX-32 Gold Lightan, GX-33 Leopardon, and GX37 King Joe--I didn't get this sensation from any of the first 31 releases. With this in mind, I don't think that my decision not to get the three mentioned could be attributed purely on my not willing to open my mind. On the other hand, I find Gunbuster to be really cool and I know that I will get this soon. I don't know anything about Gunbuster but I am willing to have it be a part of my collection. It looks great, what can I say (This despite me declaring to end my SOC collection)? You gotta admit, with this thread's title and your "end of my SOC collection" thread, you have constantly voiced out your dislike with Bandai's recent choices, which does seem like "b!tching from a spoiled brat." -No offense- It's a bit aggravating when it seems your two threads is a way of getting attention for your discontent, when the simple solution is to just not buy the ones you don't like. Yes, we've been spoiled by Bandai by this great product, but I am thankful that we got to see a lot of these robots get reincarnated and get the attention they deserve in this line. Don't you think the fans of KingJoe, Goldlightan, Leopaldon, and other obscure bots deserve the same? Remember 9 years ago when robots like Mazinger Z, Voltes V, Getters, and Dancougar were obscure to the masses.
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Post by mazfan on Nov 8, 2006 9:39:59 GMT -5
I feel really bad for hurting people's feelings with my negative feedback about the latest SOC lines. You see.... I have no other venue to express how I feel about my beloved collection than here. My family and friends do not understand and so I can't really say anything to them. This board is where I let it all out and I thought that it was okay to do it here. I know that I may have gone overboard by mentioning "the end of my SOC collection" numerous times. But I am really quite happy that my SOC addiction has come to an end or at least has slowed down quite a bit. This is not to encourage anyone to stop collecting. I just feel like I need to move on and I wanted to let you guys know it. Or this may simply be just a change on my collection habit. I feel now that I am going to be a really selective SOC buyer (I will get Gunbuster as I mentioned).
This is just a change that I need to express here. Thanks for letting me say/write things off of my chest.
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Post by paladin on Nov 8, 2006 11:10:35 GMT -5
Dude, you are more than welcome to express that stuff on this board. Most of us are just like you, with no one else in our families or circle of friends being into this stuff. I would've preferred to see this posted in the "The End of my SOC Collection" thread, though.
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Post by Omni Existence on Nov 9, 2006 1:45:27 GMT -5
I feel really bad for hurting people's feelings with my negative feedback about the latest SOC lines. You see.... I have no other venue to express how I feel about my beloved collection than here. My family and friends do not understand and so I can't really say anything to them. This board is where I let it all out and I thought that it was okay to do it here. I know that I may have gone overboard by mentioning "the end of my SOC collection" numerous times. But I am really quite happy that my SOC addiction has come to an end or at least has slowed down quite a bit. This is not to encourage anyone to stop collecting. I just feel like I need to move on and I wanted to let you guys know it. Or this may simply be just a change on my collection habit. I feel now that I am going to be a really selective SOC buyer (I will get Gunbuster as I mentioned). This is just a change that I need to express here. Thanks for letting me say/write things off of my chest. Okay, now that THAT'S over with, I'm closing this thread. Things end well for people who want to end it well.
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