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Post by mazfan on Dec 29, 2006 10:36:06 GMT -5
Though I believe that the SOC line is perfect... There are days that I feel that I can live without the added accessories. I never display them (this is mostly due to the lack of shelf real estate) and I feel that they complicate the design of the robots. They are more like sensory overload for me. Don't get me wrong, I am glad that Bandai includes them--this is what makes them even more cool. However, they just rarely get the "spotlight" for me.
How do you guys feel?
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Post by markusg on Dec 29, 2006 11:07:50 GMT -5
I agree with you. The accessories are superflous. I would prefer if Bandai skipped most accessories and put in more diecast or something. Aoshima is better on this, look at the Ankoku Daishogun: a big gokin w lots of diecast, some extra hands and a big sword. Thats it! Not zillions of tiny plastic parts that tries to emulate everything from tha anime. Keep it simple!
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Post by zman on Dec 29, 2006 11:13:42 GMT -5
If you guys put it that way then YES.....less accessories but MORE diecast ;D
But I wouldn't mind if there is a complete set of accessories if they were kept with the base like BFJ. Like Mazfan, I do not use ALL the accessories, but I do display the main gokin.
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Post by captainamerica on Dec 29, 2006 11:48:48 GMT -5
And for the opposition....
I LOVE MY ACCESSORIES!!!! No, I don't usually display all of them at once, but I don't use the stands either. But I love that I can completely re-tool the look of my Mazingers anytime I want. Are you guys saying you'd rather have a Mazinger with no Iron Cutters? A Grandizer with no Spazers? A Battle Fever Robo without all his wicked weaponry? That's just madness!*
I'm a fan of simplicity, too, but I've considered the SOC line to be 'THE' version of the robot, which means all the gimmicry they can cram into one box.
*except for the Mazinger Angel Mega-boobs, they're just silly.
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Post by markusg on Dec 29, 2006 12:38:02 GMT -5
Of course the Grendizer must have his Spacer. That's not an accessory. I also think the mazingers must have their scranders. But I think all those mini-parts should be kept to a minimum. SOC Zambot is a horrible example, all those tiny parts for Zambo Ace, extra hands, two alternative chestplates, a cannon... I usually don't even try all accessories, just leave them in the box. I think if Bandai made better boxes it would be less of a problem. All those plastic trays that are almost impossible to fit everything back into... The window box for Unifive Daikyozin should be the model.
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Post by captainamerica on Dec 29, 2006 13:45:15 GMT -5
I agree, the packing could be a lot better, and they've improved a bit over the course of the line, but they've got a long way to go. But I do like the fact that the packaging has maintained some consistency, keeping the same general aesthetic with the framed front photo and marble borders, unlike Star Wars figures, for example, that seem to change card styles every other year.
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Post by mpchi on Dec 29, 2006 14:24:58 GMT -5
I love the accessories in general. Its what makes the toy fun when changing poses and set-ups. I can think of 2 SOC examples that really contrast themselves, yet both have tons of accessories:
Zambot 3 vs. Gunbuster
Zambot 3 is horrible in terms of storing the accessories, using part of the Zanbull as a tray LOL, and parts don't sit in place very sturdy either. The Mini gun while kind of fun, has all these mini parts that there is nowhere to store (if you leave them in the belt, trust me, you'll lose a clip or two). Bottom line, really bad... even though I still enjoy fiddling with them.
Gunbuster on the other hand wins hands down. Literally everything is hidden and sits nicely in the display stand. Tons of options, tons of fun, but no need to worry losing small pieces or extra bits lying around. Rather than an after thought like appeared in Zambot 3, the stand in Gunbuster is essential and very well thought out. While you need it for the ship mode Buster Machine 1 to display with, it kept everything else you need within. Very very impressed and the best display stand/accessories combo I've come across.
So as long as the execution is good with a very good way to store them(obviously not going back to the big box, no loose pieces hanging around or need a little plastic bag for you extra hands), the more accessories the better for me.
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Post by zman on Dec 29, 2006 16:32:41 GMT -5
Great response mpchi!
But like markusg said, would you like 'complete accessories and lesser diecast' or 'essential accessories and more diecast'? ;D
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Post by Chen on Dec 29, 2006 18:58:49 GMT -5
The accessories are fine, it's the lack of places to keep them that sucks. Hopefully Bandai will continue the trend with Leopaldon and Gunbuster and have displays that hold everything but also keeps the little nicknacks out of sight.
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Post by 45caliber on Dec 29, 2006 19:53:11 GMT -5
no problem with add-on accessories even if it had 100's of pieces as long as bandai cuts it cost.. and even if i have dozen(s) of pieces or parts.... i can still have the option of displaying them or keeping them.. it's better to have them than nothing at all... it's like i put em if i want and keep it if i don't.... btw i keep all my leftover(those that are small enough to be lost and not in use) accessories inside a big tackle box sealed with a ziplock labeled individually by name from where it came from.. e.g. Grendizer's.... together with their respective manual(s).. i never kept my accessories inside the gokin's box for the reason i have wrapped each box sealed with a plastic shrinkwrap to maintain it's luster.. but in the other hand you must check those shrinkwraps for it may "eat" the prints of the box due to moisture...
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Post by mpchi on Dec 30, 2006 14:25:25 GMT -5
Great response mpchi! But like markusg said, would you like 'complete accessories and lesser diecast' or 'essential accessories and more diecast'? ;D In that case...COMPLETE ACCESSORIES all the way ;D. As most of the chogokin nowadays are decently good at diecast content. Don't thinking I'll want to have less fun just to make it a bit heavier, when the toy already have pretty good diecast. Unless it goes to the extreme of all plastic & all accessories vs. diecast with little accessories, then I might choose the latter. Ziploc bags and those hardware storage cases (those smaller ones with dividers or drawers for small pieces and screws...etc.) do come in handy for accessories, as long as you have a good way to organize them. All my numerous SIC, MSIA, as well as my 12" figures accessories all live in those.
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Post by tecnoworld on Dec 30, 2006 18:38:49 GMT -5
I'd prefer more diecast. that's my main concern in a model!
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Jan 3, 2007 15:11:07 GMT -5
I'm not a big fan of OPTION accessories. I prefer to have my display show the "definitive" look of a given figure that includes showing off all the reasonable combinations of accessories for instance, I plugged in an Iron-Cutter arm on one side of GX-01R but not on the other arm... but what I still cannot resolve is that you either display with the belly missile open or closed - that's an optional part. GX-04 gave me the same problem: hold the Double-harken, or keep the "blades" on his shoulders? captainamerica: btw, you do know that Star Wars figures come in series and waves, right? Each series is supposed to have its own packaging scheme.
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