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Post by magengar on Apr 19, 2007 23:10:38 GMT -5
Ok... I've begun work on my Chinese Jumbo Mazinger. Here's my problem: his head is made of very soft vinyl, and is starting to become "brittle"(?)... it is showing cracks in the vinyl- inside his crown, at the base of the Pilder where it is joined to the crown in the same mold. My solution would be to make a new Mazinger head, either by resin-cast... or sculpt it from puddy. I do not have any casting supplies right now; so I will have to sculpt the head from puddy... Pilder, Crown, Face, and all. I can make the ear-spikes as separate attachments. I need a sculpting puddy that will allow me enough time to form the basic shapes of his head, mouth, and crown; and will permanently harden rock-solid so I can carve in the detail of his face- particularly his eyes and mouth-vents... Questions: Which sculpting puddy is good for making Mazinger's head?...and Where can I buy it here in the US? Thanks Much, in advance!  zozo-Magengar |
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Post by mannix143 on Apr 20, 2007 0:11:53 GMT -5
have you tried Micheals art supply? i have this No-bake clay that you can sculpt until your done(just spray or mist it with water to keep it soft) and if your going to leave it overnight for tomorrow, you can hang a moist/wet towel on it to keep it soft. there are a few brands that are like this(no-bake clays) or air-dry clays. im not sure about crayolas air-dry clay, paperclay is one brand, i use to read about clay brands in www.pearlpaint.com or www.michaels.comhope this helps ^_^ |
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Post by magengar on Apr 20, 2007 3:21:39 GMT -5
The no-bake clays are fine... but I plan to sculpt a Mazinger head that will be a Permanent fixture, and machineable. That's why I need something of an expoxy-strength substance, like Tamiya puddy or Magic Sculp. I'll head out to the Micheals store this weekend. Thanks! zozo-Magengar |
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Post by magengar on Apr 20, 2007 3:26:46 GMT -5
As a last resort, if I can't acquire the Sculpty clays right away-
I'll sculpt the head out of solid polystyrene, and encase it in
hard rubber... this is where my Plasti-Dip will come into use.
The styrene will become the solid core of the head;
and the Plasti-Dip will fill in the surface of the styrene in thin
layers until it hardens to a solid outer shell.
zozo-Magengar
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Post by mannix143 on Apr 20, 2007 3:37:50 GMT -5
if your going to get sculpy or any clay that needs baking, just make sure that you dont bake it with the same oven where you use for food, its toxic.... they recommend to use your own baking oven for this.
actually they sell those porta ovens at michaels(well the michaels at NJ they have one) and those clay mixer so you dont have to use your hands ^_^
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Post by magengar on Apr 20, 2007 3:46:40 GMT -5
I've got a spare nukebox (microwave) I can use for baking clay, since I use it to mess with other stuff like sparking metals and such, just for laughs. I can mix the clay with my hands... I like to mush things up. ;D zozo-Magengar if your going to get sculpy or any clay that needs baking, just make sure that you dont bake it with the same oven where you use for food, its toxic.... they recommend to use your own baking oven for this. actually they sell those porta ovens at michaels(well the michaels at NJ they have one) and those clay mixer so you dont have to use your hands ^_^ |
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Post by mannix143 on Apr 20, 2007 3:51:22 GMT -5
you can bake in microwave?
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Post by magengar on Apr 20, 2007 7:20:50 GMT -5
I would presume so... it would be the same as baking it in an conventional oven, right? The only difference is that when you bake it in a microwave, you'd have to bake it in smaller time increments such as 15-30 second incriments because the microwave bakes at very high power, and you'll wanna keep an eye on it. WARNING: Do not bake lead nor metal-based puddies or clays in the microwave, unless you wanna become a massive fireworks display seen from several blocks away. You want to Bake the clay, Not Cremate it. ;D zozo-Magengar you can bake in microwave? |
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Post by oli on Apr 20, 2007 18:17:13 GMT -5
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Post by mannix143 on Apr 20, 2007 18:25:17 GMT -5
nice info bro.... thats good to know no jumbos on microwave hehehe |
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Post by hellric on Apr 21, 2007 1:50:27 GMT -5
I use Kneadatite, also known as green stuff, to make all my customs. it's a 2 component resin, no need to bake, you have two hours to work it before it dries.
I've bought another one, called Pro Create, but haven't tried it yet.
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Post by magengar on Apr 21, 2007 2:33:55 GMT -5
Thanks, Oli- that info is helpful to know. ... but make sure you read the fine-print, which also states: Caution:
Do not Microwave any Polymer clay Directly in the oven, always cured the clay in a microwave safe container filled with water. Direct microwaving will burned the clay within 2 min and the process will create fumes which is not healthy for the environment.
In conclusion, microwaving process is limited to small miniatures or beads as you have to put your clay works in a container with limited space filled with water.As the statement sez, when baking the clay inside a microwave oven- the clay Itself must Not be baked DIRECTLY, but placed in a container filled with water... the clay is boiled In the Water inside the microwave. Somehow, the water vapors surpress the fumes which rise from the clay- these clay fumes are very toxic, and must not be inhaled. After the baking is done, open a window to let air flow through, and leave the room for a few minutes- just so you're not exposed to any stray clay fumes as the clay cools down. zozo-Magengar |
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Post by magengar on Apr 21, 2007 2:38:51 GMT -5
That product sounds familiar... ...I used to work in a foundry where cast-iron watervalve parts are casted (Major Fireworks in the place! ;D )-- If some parts turned out with holes or dents in them, I had to use a metallic or "steel" clay compound, which sets in minutes and hardens after an hour. This compound looks greyish, like lead. Similar to This product here...  I wish I were still workin at the foundry, had I known I'd be takin up this hobby back Then, I'd make as many sculpted custom figures as possible from this compound, for fun! ;D zozo-Magengar I use Kneadatite, also known as green stuff, to make all my customs. it's a 2 component resin, no need to bake, you have two hours to work it before it dries. I've bought another one, called Pro Create, but haven't tried it yet. |
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Post by magengar on Apr 21, 2007 2:49:49 GMT -5
I'd just did a web-search moments ago, for Kneadatite, and found this... polymericsystems.com/Epoxy_Putty_Sticks.htmCheck out ALL their products; there's putties for almost every material, even Plastic and Steel! I'm curious about the steel putties... perhaps I could make some nice light-weight steel swords and weapons for some of my custom figs! ;D zozo-Magengar I use Kneadatite, also known as green stuff, to make all my customs. it's a 2 component resin, no need to bake, you have two hours to work it before it dries. I've bought another one, called Pro Create, but haven't tried it yet. |
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Post by mannix143 on Apr 21, 2007 16:39:41 GMT -5
lolz that would be nice, does it sets in 10mins also, the ones i used(remember that getter head) was a putty for plumbing, that sets in 10mins.... so you have to work really fast in sculpting before it hardens right in front of you, actually by 5 mins you will feel that its already setting up.  |
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Post by magengar on Apr 21, 2007 22:28:23 GMT -5
In some instances, a fast-setting putty is useful if the shape
you are sculpting is really basic with little or no detail.
Leave the slow-setting putties for more complex shapes and details.
Whereas the longer the setting time, the greater opportunity you'll
have to sculpt your object and fine-tune the detail to your liking.
They also allow you more time to f**k up the project, too. ;D
In either case, even after the putties have hardened, you can still machine
them with small dremel tools and carving tools.
zozo-Magengar
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