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Post by B- on Jul 17, 2014 5:23:19 GMT -5
I don't know.. I would think that they spin. The old ones didn't really have to.. they are still working on Zmaz and its months away.. what you see here is a prototype in development. Im sure if they find something they don't like with Zmaz they will change it. Looking down in that joint I would say that they spin.. it would be real easy to do.. just a peg in the upper thigh with 360 rotation..thats all it would take OK the explanation I got was that the priority was to make his so he looks as good as possible in a fairly static pose.. true to the character. The team is worried that rotation in that spot could cause scratches on the paint but they investigating a compromise solution to this problem.. they are going to see if a small amount of rotation can be used there without causing paint problems. Huh,cant believe they were considering leaving it that way? Anyhow it would only take a very small amount of rotation just enough so the caps cover the knees when rotated say 10-15 degrees in either direction. |
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 17, 2014 9:18:45 GMT -5
I know, that's what I said. But I understand the response I got.. if the whole upper leg were to rotate, some guys out there would rotate the leg then try to move it all around and end up scratching the paint or popping a leg off.. that would end up causing a high return rate. You cant have it rotating in the middle of the thigh because that would make a line right in the middle and if you make it rotate right above that detail above the knee, again there would be a line. From what they are seeing now, working with the prototype they think its better to stay with a cool looking sculpt then to start breaking it up too much. It has the same range of motion as Gin Gin in the legs, but the feet are different shapes so you can get some more in that area.. the upper body is about the same as Gin Gin but a bit more in the elbow. The Hlpro team is saying that you will get enough in the legs to have some cool poses just the way it is and that each character is going to have to have its own different "sweet spot" between sculpt and range of motion.
I heard both sides of the story, both made a good case and I think a bit of rotation right there would go a long way to making it look a bit smoother during a pose, HL is saying that it doesn't go way out of alignment until you are at the extreme edge of his articulation anyway and that most guys are going to be displaying him in fairly conservative poses in the display case anyway .. if they don't change it, its not a deal breaker for me.. it just means you cant get too crazy with him in the display case.
I would like to see it painted in some more poses before I make a judgment on that area of the figure..
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Post by B- on Jul 18, 2014 12:12:07 GMT -5
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Post by B- on Jul 18, 2014 12:13:13 GMT -5
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 19, 2014 23:34:14 GMT -5
Man... Z-Mazinger sure has a "loaded" design. It looks way better in action figure form that in the manga!  }D |
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 21, 2014 20:19:17 GMT -5
Man... Z-Mazinger sure has a "loaded" design. It looks way better in action figure form that in the manga! }D yeah I agree.. HLpro has him looking right. That original drawing could have been taken down a path that you wouldn't want to go. |
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Post by DUKE 77 on Jul 21, 2014 21:08:43 GMT -5
Man... Z-Mazinger sure has a "loaded" design. It looks way better in action figure form that in the manga! }D yeah I agree.. HLpro has him looking right. That original drawing could have been taken down a path that you wouldn't want to go. HL PRO has ALL its figures lookin' right, man, not just him!!! The best in the UNIVERSE.  Oh: robotjapan.proboards.com/user/4943/recent |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 22, 2014 16:04:18 GMT -5
Damnit! No pre-orders for Gattaiger available yet!  }| |
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 24, 2014 20:51:15 GMT -5
OK time for an announcement HLPRO will be announcing the release of all HLPRO products into the Japanese market and the rest of the Far East at the Tokyo Wonder Festival on the 26th and will be displaying the Silver version of the new Gattiger figure as a Japanese release. All HLPRO products will be sold world wide through this Japanese site and should be available for sale on the 26th. Anyone who happens to be in Japan can see Gattiger on display and he will be getting good media coverage from the local Japanese collector magazines. Entering the Japanese market means a new chapter in the History of HL Product. Gattiger and other HLPRO products can be purchased here at artstorm.co.jp/PBM USA will only be carrying the white Gattiger edition and US release date will be some time next month. |
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Post by B- on Jul 24, 2014 21:26:03 GMT -5
OK time for an announcement HLPRO will be announcing the release of all HLPRO products into the Japanese market and the rest of the Far East at the Tokyo Wonder Festival on the 26th and will be displaying the Silver version of the new Gattiger figure as a Japanese release. All HLPRO products will be sold world wide through this Japanese site and should be available for sale on the 26th. Anyone who happens to be in Japan can see Gattiger on display and he will be getting good media coverage from the local Japanese collector magazines. Entering the Japanese market means a new chapter in the History of HL Product. Gattiger and other HLPRO products can be purchased here at artstorm.co.jp/PBM USA will only be carrying the white Gattiger edition and US release date will be some time next month. Anyone ever heard of that place? |
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 24, 2014 21:31:53 GMT -5
OK time for an announcement HLPRO will be announcing the release of all HLPRO products into the Japanese market and the rest of the Far East at the Tokyo Wonder Festival on the 26th and will be displaying the Silver version of the new Gattiger figure as a Japanese release. All HLPRO products will be sold world wide through this Japanese site and should be available for sale on the 26th. Anyone who happens to be in Japan can see Gattiger on display and he will be getting good media coverage from the local Japanese collector magazines. Entering the Japanese market means a new chapter in the History of HL Product. Gattiger and other HLPRO products can be purchased here at artstorm.co.jp/PBM USA will only be carrying the white Gattiger edition and US release date will be some time next month. Anyone ever heard of that place? "artstorm" is "Fewture" |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 24, 2014 22:15:54 GMT -5
OK time for an announcement HLPRO will be announcing the release of all HLPRO products into the Japanese market and the rest of the Far East at the Tokyo Wonder Festival on the 26th and will be displaying the Silver version of the new Gattiger figure as a Japanese release. All HLPRO products will be sold world wide through this Japanese site and should be available for sale on the 26th. Anyone who happens to be in Japan can see Gattiger on display and he will be getting good media coverage from the local Japanese collector magazines. Entering the Japanese market means a new chapter in the History of HL Product. Gattiger and other HLPRO products can be purchased here at artstorm.co.jp/PBM USA will only be carrying the white Gattiger edition and US release date will be some time next month. Yikes! the artstorm site is not English friendly! Oh well... I'm already getting a little ticked-off with all this waiting for a vendor to start the pre-orders. I really love to get the Gattaiger, but if it is going to cause me an ulcer to get it, they can keep it. I never liked the silver one anyway. I hope to be able to get one from PBM or EE, but again, if this pre-order uncertainty crap continues, then I'm out.  }| |
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 24, 2014 22:40:48 GMT -5
artstorm will have both of them day after tomorrow .. no pre orders , just a release day that's it
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Post by B- on Jul 25, 2014 6:41:55 GMT -5
artstorm will have both of them day after tomorrow .. no pre orders , just a release day that's it if its not English friendly I'm guessing ordering will be an issue so... |
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Post by B- on Jul 25, 2014 6:47:22 GMT -5
Also HLPro never does Preorders one thing that really sucks about them if they are gonna join the big boys and be all over Japan that is gonna have to change.
And giving PBM aka Paul money ahead of time isn't the same thing as a legit preorder which is usually accompanied by a discount.
I mean there are MANY European PRE orders HLPro had to let those stores have access.let's face it USA to them is a small market and they don't seem to care about us all that much or so it seems.
One more thing I noticed,even if you wait on getting Gattaiger,youll be paying the same thing or less next year,HLPro toys although very cool, seem to never increase in value,and some you can get cheaper than when originally out on sale.Maybe that will change with Gattaiger but who knows.
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 25, 2014 12:52:56 GMT -5
HLPRO has no control over "pre orders" that isn't their job, they are just the manufacturer.. its up to the retailers to do pre-orders and many of them don't bother with it bc HLPRO will make enough to meet demand anyway.. some of the retailers just see it as added hassle and paperwork. Now if it were a factory-direct release, yeah HLpro would probably have a pre-order arrangement.
Thing is, some of these companies that are doing "pre-orders" are just doing that because they need the cash from the pre orders to go into production.. now Im not talking about Bandai of course.. more like companies like CM.. HLpro has the money to go right into production, they don't need pre-order money... and it seems the retailers usually don't need "pre order" money to place an order for the HLpro products. Also, they usually don't have a huge surge of collectors fighting to buy an item on release... HLpro just just sells at a steady pace right now.. so the pre-orders wouldn't do anything anyway. You wouldn't get it earlier or anything..
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Post by B- on Jul 25, 2014 17:12:53 GMT -5
HLPRO has no control over "pre orders" that isn't their job, they are just the manufacturer.. its up to the retailers to do pre-orders and many of them don't bother with it bc HLPRO will make enough to meet demand anyway.. some of the retailers just see it as added hassle and paperwork. Now if it were a factory-direct release, yeah HLpro would probably have a pre-order arrangement. Thing is, some of these companies that are doing "pre-orders" are just doing that because they need the cash from the pre orders to go into production.. now Im not talking about Bandai of course.. more like companies like CM.. HLpro has the money to go right into production, they don't need pre-order money... and it seems the retailers usually don't need "pre order" money to place an order for the HLpro products. Also, they usually don't have a huge surge of collectors fighting to buy an item on release... HLpro just just sells at a steady pace right now.. so the pre-orders wouldn't do anything anyway. You wouldn't get it earlier or anything.. Yes it would secure our orders,some us us like to preorder,or is HLPro going to have unlimited supply and going to personally make sure all of us US collectors get their toys right away with everyone else?This is why preorders are needed. |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 25, 2014 17:30:52 GMT -5
It is such a simple thing to do. HlPro does it anyway with a few exclusives, so why not just start selling directly these "high-End" action figures anyway? I pre-ordered and bought my Manga Giru-Giru directly from them, and it was even easier than with Amiami or HLJ. It's not like they will get so flooded with online orders that they will need to hire extra help. Production runs are small enough, and not many folks are interested in these obscure characters with high price tags. Oh well, whatever...  }| |
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Post by B- on Jul 25, 2014 18:20:57 GMT -5
It is such a simple thing to do. HlPro does it anyway with a few exclusives, so why not just start selling directly these "high-End" action figures anyway? I pre-ordered and bought my Manga Giru-Giru directly from them, and it was even easier than with Amiami or HLJ. It's not like they will get so flooded with online orders that they will need to hire extra help. Production runs are small enough, and not many folks are interested in these obscure characters with high price tags. Oh well, whatever... }| Exactly! So Tom what say ye to that? I know you'll have some sort of reason why what they are doing is the right way.LOL you always do.no offense. |
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 25, 2014 19:35:04 GMT -5
Because some items like the anime Giru Giru were sold factory direct, the normal releases are sold though distributors or retail stores.. if the retailer wants to the pre-orders he can. What more can I say?
How can HLpro pre-order something for you when its not in their stock? Its in the retailer's or distributors stock... the robots go from the factories in china directly to the distributors, HLpro never has possession of them. Now in case of the "factory direct" releases, they go from the factory in China to the HL office in Japan.. then they sell them to you. So its two different supply chains..
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