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Post by bt1 on Mar 16, 2010 21:41:02 GMT -5
Signs that your collecting catagory is endangered www.harryrinker.com/col-1206.htmlWe are obviously not there yet (actually, he says we are supposed to peak between ages 45-60). Some of the points are not really relevant for us, but some good food for thought. I'd been thinking about our vintage collecting niche and where it would be heading in the next couple of decades (and beyond). I don't really see any serious 'new blood' entering the vintage scene. I mean, either you grew up with the toys/anime of the period, in which case you would collect for the nostalgia, or you didn't. The younger guys (mainly) are more interested in the 'anime accuracy,' boatloads of gimmiks/accessories and the poseability of the 'figures.' The older (mainly) crowd, meanwhile, seem to like the playablility of the 'toys.' This is obvious from the SOC vs Vintage thread. Makes me wonder if we will be the last/only generation to give a serious crap about them (same goes for vintage tin, cast iron etc). Even if my daughters had a remote interest in my toys, I cant see them saying one day 'oh wow, a Mekanda DX, gotta have it' and spend thousands on it. I suppose it wont matter once were gone, but I think it would be a shame if Takemi Pegas and the like sell for pennies on the dollar for lack of interest and can end up being sold more for scrap than as a collectable. On the positive side, robots have always been cool through the recent generations, so there may be hope yet. |
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Post by xiombarg on Mar 16, 2010 21:53:42 GMT -5
Just like us, a lot of it depends on what's getting media exposure, which in today's world is as much video games as TV and movies. My guess is that kids in the future will be collecting Ben 10, Halo, and maybe Armored Core models. Stuff like that.
Of course you never know what's going to get revival treatment. Look at Transformers, which were starting to be on their way out six years ago. Some company might do a cartoon of Grendizer that gets worldwide exposure and suddenly it all becomes cool again.
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Post by KingboyD on Mar 17, 2010 9:28:39 GMT -5
There's been a new Jeeg show, and many new series featuring super robots. Also, countries like Japan constructed new huge statues of vintage bots, so you have to assume that there will be some continuing strong feelings about these. But I do see what you are saying. When we all get REALLY old (since I'm already old), will there still be an interest in these?
I'm surprised reruns of these old shows aren't broadcast. They show old sitcoms. Who's to say that these won't hold up well too? Isn't it a lot more cost effective (especially considering the economy) to just broadcast these old programs than to pay to create new ones? Just wishful thinking.
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Post by xiombarg on Mar 17, 2010 11:00:25 GMT -5
I'm surprised reruns of these old shows aren't broadcast. They show old sitcoms. Who's to say that these won't hold up well too? Isn't it a lot more cost effective (especially considering the economy) to just broadcast these old programs than to pay to create new ones? Just wishful thinking. Amen to that. G-Force is as good as anything on today. Even shows like Voltes V would be awesome if they just gave it new voice overs and new theme music. |
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Post by bt1 on Mar 17, 2010 11:07:20 GMT -5
Been hoping the same thing. We have a retro cartoon channel as well as an anime channel I always pray would bring back some of the old school Force Five, Starblazers etc. shows, but I won't hold my breath.
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Post by KingboyD on Mar 17, 2010 11:28:43 GMT -5
And then once they gain in popularity due to a whole new generation watching them, they can pull out all the old molds and reissue the old toys from each show (or create new affordable ones, unlike the SOCs)! Woohoo! Let's get a petition rolling.  |
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Post by Nyonk on Mar 17, 2010 11:37:58 GMT -5
if only bandai would remake VOLTES anime....
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Post by xiombarg on Mar 17, 2010 11:53:52 GMT -5
if only bandai would remake VOLTES anime.... This would be ideal. With today's animation technology it would so easy to use the old cartoon and just thicken and sharpen the line work, give it a little more weight. All the sound needs an overhaul though, not just voices and music. The old sound effects are really dated. |
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Post by admin1 aka Ed on Mar 19, 2010 11:56:40 GMT -5
Good article. Items I noted: -I notice that we have a good deal of new lifeblood; prices just aren't justified for too many new collectors. So SOC toys fill the need. -When you add up HK, China, PHILL, US, IT, + collectors, we have a descent pool of interest. We just don't share a universal language. -High end toy prices are definately going up. -We have some time before the 55 age comments. So for a while, yes, we are fine  -Supply is going down. But I expect that the large supply from ages ago will continue to turn over in time. People marry, get divorced, etc. So there are a good number of vintage styles to sub-collect. But there are some great points on the other side too :/. E |
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Post by magengar on Mar 22, 2010 10:13:32 GMT -5
I don't know what to think of it, especially in this
class of the hobby.
Too often I hear "there isn't a big market for that"
when I explain to a store owner about this particular
toy copllection hobby.
Store owners know we collectors of this toy
genre exist.
They're not all stupid, while many others are
just ignorant fools looking to make big money
from whatever's the "Hot Item" at the moment.
There are just a very few store owners I've
met who will do what they can to help
immortalize classic and vintage japanese toys.
But then, given the value of vintage, not many
folks can afford to spend that kind of money
and circulate it.
Ten years ago, I used to visit Antique World in
Buffalo NY... the place has vintage all over, I even
once saw a jumbo Getter Dragon for sale there.
Many vintage tins, too; toys of all sorts...
...and, yeah, gangs of old Avon bottles (cologne
"car" shaped bottles, "boot" shaped bottles,
you name it), the coolest bottles ever.
The average young collector goes to these places
after Pokemon cards and other modern collectables
which had their own section at Antique World
(Brats dolls... EEEEEW!!!).
Gen-Xers around my age who enjoy chillin out
on old B horror movies, Memphis Belle type stuff,
retro stuff of sorts... we're intrigued and attracted
to all cool things vintage, because we were just
very young kids in the late-'60s/'70s when that
stuff was popular back in the day.
Bela Lugosi and Robocon ROCK in the same boat!
Leo Gorcey and the Bowery Boys RULE!
I see the Cool factor in vintage stuff, and I feel
really Hip when I have a vintage item.
Every species of something faces extinction sooner
or later, Unfortunately.
The best we can do is keep the flag waving.
Ten or twenty years from now, stuff like Robotech
and Gundam toys will become vintage.
The first Revoltechs and early SOCs which will see
folks fiending and paying a pretty penny for them.
In 2020: folks will literally Murder, Torture, Mutilate,
and KILL for a Boss Borot SOC! ;D
The old-school vintage toys will become the holiest
grails if ever sought after by those of us who may
still be collecting at such a later mature age.
...that last note scares Me:
Will I still be collecting when I'm 64?
I sure Hope so.
Vintage is cool to me now.
But I'd hate to imagine what my
perspective would be later on.
zozo-Magengar
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